buyhigh
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posted on October 9, 2002 08:41:03 AM new
Listed one measly item on e-bay yesterday evening and this AM had 3 e-mails waiting all with attachments. One was a returned e-mail from postmaster with an attachment. Which virus is this? To save myself a lot of trouble when I see this stuff, I just download the ones from sources I recognize and then hit edit - select ALL and Delete so I never know. Has there been an upsurge in the sending of viruses? For some reason, everytime I list I get these things with attachments.
buyhigh
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twelvepole
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posted on October 9, 2002 09:32:49 AM new
HUH???
Ain't Life Grand... 
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slabholder
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posted on October 9, 2002 09:41:21 AM new
Do you have any anti-virus software?
severe threat
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throughhiker
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posted on October 9, 2002 09:46:38 AM new
buyhigh,
Your post is a bit confusing. I doubt that the act of listing an auction would cause viruses to attack. However, there are two viruses out there that I know of that infect the email browser Outlook. If it gets into an unprotected computer it will search the harddrive for all the email address on that hard drive and send itself to all of them. So if you do very much web buying/selling sooner or later you will end up on an infected computer's address book and the virus will come at you. The KLEZ has been arround for about a year and does not seem to be going away. There is now a new one called Bugbear that is even worse because I believe in adition to sending itself it also destroys files on any computer it infects. GET A GOOD VIRUS SOFTWARE and USE IT!
Go to Norton.com and find information about these viruses.
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buyhigh
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posted on October 9, 2002 10:08:11 AM new
Answer -Yes, but I have the original version of Norton which is good for the life of the computer and I update on a bi-monthly basis manually by internet. It will inform me if I have the Klez virus and will delete on request but does not seem to quarantine. It seems simpler to delete anyway. I just wanted to know if an e-mail return by postmaster with an attachment was a virus and which one since I did not think one got attachents with these.
buyhigh
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sanmar
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posted on October 9, 2002 10:40:27 AM new
buyhigh, don't mess a round with this bimonthly update. Spend $39.95 for Norton 2002 & get free updates for one year automatically. I some times get as many as 3 updates in a week!! You are playing with fire if you don't. Another thing, the Klez virus is about 127 KB. I have quit opening any email over 100KB regardless who sends it. I have told all of my friends & relatives this. I havebeen hit #X by Klez, but Norton has quarantined them with no damage done.
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aintrichyet
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posted on October 9, 2002 11:09:34 AM new
sanmar, i was always under the impression that you can't get a virus by merely opening an email; only if you 1]download the attachment, or 2] if you visit a clickable link in the email to a website page that could give ya the virus ...
am i wrong?
marcia
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twelvepole
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posted on October 9, 2002 11:16:14 AM new
Buyhigh, unless you open the attachment you won't know if there is a virus attached. You can run a virus scan over the attachment and it may tell you. However there is only one for sure way to know and it is not a good option.
If you don't know the sender delete the email... period.
If you know the sender and the attchement seems out of whack for them... delete the email and then call them and ask them about it. They may have a virus they don't know about.
aintrichyet, I have heard that there is some email you can just open, but have never seen one... attachements or links are the evil ones. Just say "delete"
Ain't Life Grand...
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nightman444
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posted on October 9, 2002 11:49:21 AM new
Has anyone used PC-CILLIN iF so please give ne some feedback on it. I just put it on my computer a couple of days ago and already received 2 updates.
Thanks in Advance for feedback.
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buyhigh
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posted on October 9, 2002 01:03:48 PM new
All I know is that if I click on the email to delete, Norton informs me that I have a virus and then I go through the process of having them delete it but to avoid going through that I hit edit - selcct all and then delete and I save a lot of time and misery. Any e-mail that takes a longer than usual time to be received, I figure is a virus and they all ofcourse have attachments.
buyhigh
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capotasto
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posted on October 9, 2002 02:11:16 PM new
". I just wanted to know if an e-mail return by postmaster with an attachment was a virus ..."
The answer is yes.
Vinnie
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buyhigh
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posted on October 9, 2002 02:45:53 PM new
Vinnie - Thanks! That is all I needed to know and I am certain the others contained virus as well.
buyhigh
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ghallgren
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posted on October 9, 2002 03:25:11 PM new
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throughhiker
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posted on October 10, 2002 05:17:13 AM new
Buyhigh
One of the things I like to do with friends and reletives is share pictures. We Have started incerting them into the email message so the come up on the page rather than in an attachment so we don't have to be suspitious of attachments. However, they still take the same amount of time to download so the time criteria is not always going to mean it is a bad email.
Maybe email is not so important to you but I would think that just selecting all and deleteing would delete messages I wanted as well as unwanted junk.
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buyhigh
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posted on October 10, 2002 08:34:55 AM new
Throughhiker - If that were the case with me I would think twice about deleting. However, since none of these sender's addresses are recognizable, why would I expect a photo? I also have emptied my address book and instead have written needed e-mail addresses in a note pad.
buyhigh
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twelvepole
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posted on October 10, 2002 11:36:07 AM new
well emptying your address book is one sure way of not spreading any virus you do get buyhigh.
Ain't Life Grand...
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tomwiii
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posted on October 11, 2002 01:19:37 AM new
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hair2dye4
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posted on October 11, 2002 08:09:52 AM new
A couple of months ago the Klez virus was making me crazy, nortons caught them all, then on a post here one day TRAI and his graphics went to work (it was a funny post) but since that day no virus! timing was everything! Anyway now since last night 4 more virus's all a new kind, I heard there was a couple of new ones out there, Norton's caught them the title in the email this time was "refund for transaction number"
Norton's has saved my behind!
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