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 sanmar
 
posted on October 9, 2002 09:05:12 PM
If you can bring up MSNBC.com, there is a great article about fraud on Bay what they are not doing about it

 
 bear1949
 
posted on October 9, 2002 09:26:43 PM
New slant on old news.

 
 sparkz
 
posted on October 9, 2002 09:55:00 PM
http://www.msnbc.com/news/809148.asp?0cl=cR

Was Purseglove ever a spokesman for Nixon???


The light at the end of the tunnel will turn out to be an oncoming train.
 
 JACKSWEBB
 
posted on October 9, 2002 10:33:57 PM
COME ON,,,,SOMEONE PUT A LINK IN HERE SO WE CAN SEE. THANKS AND THANKS SANMAR FOR POSTING IT. I WANNA SEE!


AND THE BEAT GOES ON,,,,,,
 
 Libra63
 
posted on October 9, 2002 10:57:27 PM
Wow! That's quite an article. Here is is for you Jack

http://www.msnbc.com/news/809148.asp?0cl=cR



 
 kiara
 
posted on October 9, 2002 10:57:56 PM
Interesting what they say about Powersellers.

I think it depends on who looks at each case. Some ebay employees will be more lax than others don't you think?

[ edited by kiara on Oct 9, 2002 11:09 PM ]
 
 JACKSWEBB
 
posted on October 9, 2002 11:26:21 PM
WE ALL THANK YOU FOR THE LINK,,,,,,GONNA READ MORE IN THE A.M. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.
AND THE BEAT GOES ON,,,,,,
 
 sparkz
 
posted on October 9, 2002 11:57:44 PM
Kiara
That may well be the case. My thought is WHY are they lax? The article gives the impression that there may be some greasy palms involved. Kevin Purseglove's boilerplate responses to questions does more harm than good to Ebay IMHO. They need to get rid of this clown and have someone from management confront these questions if they want to maintain any degree of creditability.



The light at the end of the tunnel will turn out to be an oncoming train.
 
 kiara
 
posted on October 10, 2002 12:46:44 AM
I was thinking that some employees that work in safeharbor will be more forgiving than others. Kind of like one boss, teacher or moderator may favor you more than another and you will get away with more things.

It would be interesting to talk to a safeharbor employee or ex-employee and find out how they actually handle things. Are they all trained to send out the canned response first?

But now I am wondering.... what if you are a top Powerseller and you don't abide by the rules and find out that you will be suspended from ebay permanently. What if you offered to give a little gratuity to the safeharbor employee and in return you could remain on the site? I wonder if that has ever happened?


[ edited by kiara on Oct 10, 2002 12:49 AM ]
 
 mlecher
 
posted on October 10, 2002 05:59:56 AM
What they need is a State Attorney General investigation. eBay has been publicly informed, they did nothing, they are officially accomplices


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A Man will spend $2.00 for a $1.00 item he needs.
A Woman will spend $1.00 for a $2.00 item she doesn't need.

 
 twelvepole
 
posted on October 10, 2002 09:42:25 AM
Nice article, just reaffirms my suspiscions that most powersellers are crooks.
And get away with it with eBay's belssings.

I hope that ebay takes notice and as mlcher pointed out, get an attorney general involved.

Especially in the computer categories, are shill bidding noticeable but when reported eBay seems to take long enough for the auction to end, even when shown evidence, to do nothing.



Ain't Life Grand...
 
 kiara
 
posted on October 10, 2002 09:55:44 AM
I sure don't think that most Powersellers are crooks.

I think that most of the crooks that get caught just happen to be Powersellers so of course it gives them all a bad name.

 
 trai
 
posted on October 10, 2002 10:20:16 AM
WHY are they lax?

We are onlya venue.

 
 roskhardfitness
 
posted on October 10, 2002 11:26:58 AM
Everyone that reads that article has to be a little cautious to form opinions. Ebay is a very large marketplace. I have been to many different markets in this world, and I have always found fraud somewhere. Even the simplest flea markets or county fairs have been magnets for fraud. There are a lot of great people at working at ebay, as well as selling on ebay, thousands upon thousands. Just be wise, sell fair, bid with caution. I have never been a victim to fraud on ebay, it may be because I am lucky, or it may be because I am careful. Regardless, we all need to stop mocking and biting the hand the feeds us. Ebay has opened up a world of opportunity for each and everyone of us. I bet you that the good compared to the bad is no worse than you will find at your local pawn shop. Ebay is a big place, and these complaints and crimes are very small pieces of the mammoth puzzle that ebay really is. Here is something you won't see to many times.

THANK YOU EBAY!!!!!

 
 twelvepole
 
posted on October 10, 2002 11:27:39 AM
I think that most of the crooks that get caught just happen to be Powersellers so of course it gives them all a bad name

You're Woman aren't you?


LOL



Ain't Life Grand...
 
 twelvepole
 
posted on October 10, 2002 11:33:52 AM
Roskhardfitness,

one: eBay doesn't feed me...

two: If they are supporting crooked activities from the powersellers, then they need to slammed and slammed hard.

three: The only way to improve things are to bring to light the dirt that is lurking beneath, before something really major hits and then there would be no more eBay.


Ain't Life Grand...
 
 kiara
 
posted on October 10, 2002 11:46:20 AM
I agree that ebay is large and some things will be overlooked. But there have been reports of fraud where ebay turned a blind eye to the first reports they received. If they had paid attention earlier it may not have become so extensive and so many buyers wouldn't have been cheated.

ebay has treated me well so I'm not knocking them. But they are open to criticism like any business. Unless buyers and sellers voice their concerns many things will never change for the better.

You're Woman aren't you?

What does that comment mean?

Are you saying that women give the benefit of doubt whereas men think all Powersellers
are crooks?

 
 trai
 
posted on October 10, 2002 12:14:51 PM
Ebay is a very large marketplace.

Yes it is. However, we are also ebay's customers, so when something is not above board we should speak up!

As long as we pay for the service we do have the right to complain when crooks give our venue a bad name and the upper management does squat.

Ebay is a big place, and these complaints and crimes are very small pieces of the mammoth puzzle that ebay really is.

How do you know that it's only a small percentage?

As they will not tell us, I do think it is a lot higher then what they would have us believe.


[ edited by trai on Oct 10, 2002 12:15 PM ]
 
 Reamond
 
posted on October 10, 2002 03:51:11 PM
Here is a second article- it gets worse.

http://www.msnbc.com/news/818257.asp?0si

 
 
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