micmic66
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posted on November 4, 2002 03:22:02 PM new
I know of two guys right here in my town that are constantly bidding on eachothers auctions. Not just a few nickle-dime auctions but $60, $70 and much higher priced auction. They are shameless to the point of leaving feedback for eachother when they get "stuck" as the high bidder. All in all, the collectibles they are selling are the same collectible I am selling, we all share sources such as the same flea markets and garage sales. Should thier time be more valueable than mine because of thier dishonesty?? I can find hundreds of shrill bids by looking through the bid history of thier feedback item #'s. I am casual buddies with these people but am itching to turn them in. Please vote. yeah or na
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CBlev65252
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posted on November 4, 2002 03:24:00 PM new
Yea
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replaymedia
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posted on November 4, 2002 03:29:24 PM new
Absolutely you should turn them in.
Explain your case clearly and send your e-mail. DO NOT mention that you are a competitor.
They also may take your claim more seriously if they have ever bid on YOUR auctions.
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uaru
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posted on November 4, 2002 03:46:23 PM new
I'd turn them in if I was 99.9% sure they were shilling. I don't like people that cheat at auctions or cards.
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trai
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posted on November 4, 2002 03:48:42 PM new
If you feel you have proof more or less about shill bidding, then turn them in to ebay.
Why you would feel that you need a vote to do what is right is something that I can not understand at all.
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hagey
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posted on November 4, 2002 03:55:00 PM new
Shill bidding is stealing and cheating, and they are always wrong. I would turn them in.
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jensmome
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posted on November 4, 2002 04:11:17 PM new
Turn the bums in. I was the victim of a shill in my newbie days. Cheaters are scum and need to be weeded out just like deadbeats.
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Libra63
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posted on November 4, 2002 04:39:25 PM new
I think if you have to come in here to ask the question you know what the answer is. What you probably need to do is sit down and think of the negatives and positives that will come out of your decision. Good Luck in what you decide.
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micmic66
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posted on November 4, 2002 04:44:26 PM new
Libra63,
That is where I am hung up. They are "friends" of mine. Meaning, a bag of packing penuts here, some good BS there. To turn them in would feel a bit strange but I am leaning that way now.....
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rarriffle
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posted on November 4, 2002 04:51:12 PM new
shilling is cheating but these two guys know that....if you are uncomfortable turning them in, then mention it in an off hand way to one of them...."Boy so and so sure bids on a lot of your sales, why doesn't he just offer to buy them before you list them?" (just an example)...this would give them the heads up that you have noticed and they may quit for fear you will turn them in.
On the other hand, they may fess up to what they are doing and you could come right out and warn them about the consequences if ebay catches them.
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vvalhalla
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posted on November 4, 2002 05:23:26 PM new
Join the shill ring and buy a new car.
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saffy
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posted on November 4, 2002 05:42:04 PM new
In one of my first biddings on ebay, the seller used the same ISP and similar usernames, and created three ebay identities to shill bid on me. I was the only and first bidder. It was so obvious, one had to laugh. She'd had hundreds of buying feedback too, she bought ALOT of ebay. They still suspended her for a month. I tend to think that if you just alert one of Ebay's representative to them, than they can put two and two together. Why should two sellers bid on items they could find on thier own? But, perhaps they could be collectors as well, adding to thier own collections. I see your dilemma. Why not wait til you have more concrete evidence, don't those types usually get careless? Yes, they do. And start frequenting those flea markets and get the good stuff before those two do!
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bubblewrap
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posted on November 4, 2002 05:46:45 PM new
yeah if thier shrill bidding turn em in
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kiara
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posted on November 4, 2002 05:50:45 PM new
If you are casual friends perhaps they already realize that you have clued into this. Maybe they think they can buy your silence with a bag of peanuts every now and then.
I work hard to make my money an honest way and I'm tired of scammers so I would most likely turn them in also. Who really needs friends like these guys?
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jensmome
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posted on November 4, 2002 06:08:11 PM new
They won't know it's you turning them in if you don't say anything to them. If it's that obvious, any one of their customers could have alerted eBay. You have to do what is right. Just coming here to question it tells me that you know what you need to do. As far as peanuts go, if they offer them take them. No harm there.
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sparkz
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posted on November 4, 2002 06:55:22 PM new
Turn 'em in. When Ebay boots their crooked butts, maybe you can get ALL of their peanuts instead of just a bag or too. After all, they won't have any use for them. Don't forget to ask them if they have any bubblewrap also.
The light at the end of the tunnel will turn out to be an oncoming train.
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Roadsmith
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posted on November 4, 2002 10:36:18 PM new
Just do it! Remember that if they're dishonest in one area, they could really hurt you in some way sometime. People aren't dishonest only in one teeny part of their lives. They live dishonest lives, and you're just seeing the tip of the iceberg. JMHO. ~Adele
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