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 aqmay
 
posted on November 6, 2002 11:03:22 AM
Any thoughts on banning bidders w/ 0 feedback
and shades on ,do you let them bid and risk no pay or ban them during the transaction.

 
 uaru
 
posted on November 6, 2002 11:22:33 AM
I urge all my competitors... err.. friends to not accept bids from zero feedback bidders. I remember that I didn't start buying or selling on eBay till I had a respectable feedback of at least 5.

 
 rarriffle
 
posted on November 6, 2002 12:00:51 PM
my last 3 deadbeats all had over 100 feedback...maybe I should let only 0 feedback bidders bid and cancel all the others...hmmmmmm

You are joking aren't you?

 
 CBlev65252
 
posted on November 6, 2002 12:51:02 PM
We all start out with 0 feedback. Why on Earth would you ban everyone with 0 feedback? Sure, I've had some Newbies that were slow paying, but they paid!! At this point, I need all the business I can get. If you don't want them, I'll take them off your hands.

 
 pelorus
 
posted on November 6, 2002 12:58:10 PM
uaru: How did you get to feedback of 5 before you did any buying or selling? Was it your good looks or what?

 
 uaru
 
posted on November 6, 2002 01:18:47 PM
uaru: How did you get to feedback of 5 before you did any buying or selling? Was it your good looks or what?

It wasn't easy. It was a combination of my good looks and my practice of cleaning Meg Whitman's windshield when she stopped at a traffic near the eBay headquarters.



 
 upriver
 
posted on November 6, 2002 01:19:56 PM
Here's the feedback of all my deadbeat bidders since August 2001:

0, 5, 6, 33, 8, 7, 0, 0, 71, 0, 1297, 69, 0, 0, 4, 5, 1, 6, 0, 53, 64, 13, 9, 0, 228, 403, 139, 1, 6, 102, 0, 4, 112, 0, 0, 29, 175, 9, 1, 58, 0, 31, 33, 4, 1, 536, 125, 0, 8, 0, 47, 11, 24, 70, 5, 100, 4, 0, 0, 2, 15, 21, 196, 14, 0, 7, 17, 0, 15

69 deadbeat bidders out of over 2000 sales
18 of the deadbeats were 0 feedback & 39 of the 69 were bidders with less than 10 feedback, so obviously 10 and under is where the risk is.

However, looking at my sales there are literally many hundreds where the winning bidder paid up fine, and yet their feedback was under 10

Of my sales in the past 2 months, one deadbeat bidder had 0 feedback, but 15 successful & good paying bidders also had 0 feedback, out of about 500 total sales made.

So there is obviously some level of risk involved in dealing with people whose feedback is under 10, but in the grand scheme of things it is relatively minor in my experience, and more an annoyance than a reason not to accept anyone's bid.

 
 aqmay
 
posted on November 6, 2002 02:55:05 PM
my thought is if they have the shades on ,most are trying to start with a new I.D.and hide there old feedback ,granted some people do change I.D.for other reasons.I would say more are hiding feedback than not .

 
 CBlev65252
 
posted on November 6, 2002 03:17:36 PM
"When the shades icon appears next to a User ID, it signifies that the user has been a registered eBay user for 30 days or less, or has changed his/her User ID within the last 30 days. The shades icon will disappear after the user has maintained the same User ID for a 30-day period."

The shades don't necessarily mean the bidder has changed his or her identity. New Ebayers will have shades until they've been a member for 30 days.



 
 quickdraw29
 
posted on November 6, 2002 04:44:30 PM
If I banned zero fb bidders I'd go out of business. I have more problems with people with 25-50fb then with zero.

Banning people with shades makes no sense. Just look at their fb and see if there are problems like you'd do with anyone else.

One of my fb has shades right now. I change my username once a year because I don't like the name anymore, or I relate it more to what I'm selling.
Everyone is entitled to my opinion.
 
 quickdraw29
 
posted on November 6, 2002 04:50:42 PM
"my thought is if they have the shades on ,most are trying to start with a new I.D.and hide there old feedback."

Changing a username gets the shades icon but doesn't get a new feedback profile, and buyers could look you up with the old username for thirty days, or with your email address forever as long as you don't change your email address.





 
 Libra63
 
posted on November 6, 2002 05:50:53 PM
I urge all my competitors... err.. friends to not accept bids from zero feedback bidders. I remember that I didn't start buying or selling on eBay till I had a respectable feedback of at least 5.

Yes and how did you do that? Lots of bull flying around here tonight.

I can honestly say I have had only 3 problems in my 3 years of selling and buying. Never anyone with a low feedback, most are around 200. You know is isn't a given that anyone will pay but that is the chance you take when you are a seller. If you trust them I think they will trust you.



 
 krayonne
 
posted on November 6, 2002 06:45:17 PM
2 of the best transactions I've ever had as a seller came very recently by buyers with 0 feedback. It may depend on who your buying audience is, but the one NPB I've had was an experienced bidder with feedback in the 30s, I think. My experience is that the newbies are usually very anxious to do it right, and very attentive to make sure they're not dropping the ball anywhere.

Bring on the newbs!

 
 capotasto
 
posted on November 6, 2002 07:25:47 PM
aqmay, what was your FB number when you started on ebay?

What a dumbass idea.

 
 sanmar
 
posted on November 6, 2002 09:10:19 PM
How can you start on ebay with a positive feedback? Jeez, we all started with a big fat ZERO. Just out of curiosity, upriver, what do you sell to get so many npb's?
[ edited by sanmar on Nov 6, 2002 09:11 PM ]
 
 mcjane
 
posted on November 6, 2002 10:01:43 PM
pelorus:

When I started on eBay FB didn't have to be transactional.
All you had to do was get friends & family members to sign up & leave you some great FB.

We all did it for each other, no sales involved at all.
Things sure have changed.

 
 myoldtoy
 
posted on November 7, 2002 12:37:33 AM
hope you folks dont mind my "two cents"...i own a retail store in addition to my ebay business...at retail get many new customers...also get lots returning customers...for those people so worried about sunshades and no feedback...your rationale seems to be overridding your common sense...every time you have a winning bidder, no matter the "count, " its a roll of the dice to see what happens...i have a count of less 400, but i have 2 sales ytd of $5781 and $5000; and one for$1300 just this week...all 3 had sunshades...and it so happens; these 3 joined ebay the week of my auction so they could bid/buy my items...the only thing i am trying to say is: dont DONT dare let the black sunshades jaundice your view of a bidder[my opinion of course] - make no mistake; there is a new, or different, breed on ebay now - they seem to want to negotiate more than bid - but make no mistake about this either - if they want the product they will buy it -sunshades or not...and its a h---avu compliment paid the seller when a person registers with ebay - then buys an item on 'bin' minutes later..." you cannot tell a book by its cover" is the old saying i think...and check this out: i buy on ebay...just bought some lamp parts from a seller with sunshades...
have a nice one! sam



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