AuctionAce
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posted on October 3, 2003 05:38:33 PM
http://tinyurl.com/pnsw
Recalled Items
eBay strongly supports the efforts of the U.S. Consumer Products Safety Commission (CPSC) to protect consumers against potentially hazardous goods. The CPSC, an independent federal regulatory agency, protects consumers by issuing warnings about goods that might be hazardous, and even issuing recalls of certain products. Items that have been the subject of CPSC action include lawn darts, baby products (such as defective cribs, infant carriers, and car seats), propane heaters, and thousands of other products.
http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/recalled.html
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Libra63
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posted on October 3, 2003 06:27:39 PM
That auction hasn't been on long enough for eBay to find it but they have been recalled banned and what ever else as they are very dangerous.
Here are previous threads on the subject.
http://www.vendio.com/mesg/read.html?num=2&id=516807&thread=516798
http://www.vendio.com/mesg/read.html?num=2&id=461796&thread=461364
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sparkz
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posted on October 3, 2003 07:25:52 PM
Judging from his feedback, he's not a veteran seller and probably doesn't know what the score is. He's about to get an education when Ebay catches wind of this.
The light at the end of the tunnel will turn out to be an oncoming train.
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AuctionAce
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posted on October 3, 2003 10:12:02 PM
When a seller lists a recalled item a screen comes up and says the item will be pulled by ebay. On Yahoo it is impossible to list the item because the listings software catches it.
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sparkz
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posted on October 3, 2003 10:38:55 PM
It's up to $121.50 now. I forsee a big disappointment when he gets that email from [email protected].
The light at the end of the tunnel will turn out to be an oncoming train.
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AuctionAce
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posted on October 3, 2003 10:52:06 PM
If ebay were to end it ( I have a feeling it won't even get closed at all ) the seller could still sell the item offsite if any of the bidders use the 'ask the seller' format on another one of his auctions to inquire to the missing Jarts auction.
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Libra63
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posted on October 4, 2003 07:40:20 AM
That's right as we all know but eBay which is only a venue cannot be sued because they allowed this auction to go on. I think that that is their main concern.
One would think that when Jarts is put into an auction a red flag would go up at eBay, but then again eBay might not have red flags.
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micmic66
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posted on October 4, 2003 07:59:36 AM
I was suspended for 2 weeks for listing JARTS back in sept of 01...I ignored the 1st warning, listed a 2nd set and got snagged.....A good way to unload your JARTS is to click on the BID HISTORY of a Jart auction, offer a bidder a fair price and BANG, there gone. I have done this several times after my suspension. Now I just walk by the stupid things when I see them.....
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AuctionAce
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posted on October 4, 2003 02:46:13 PM
Looks like it's gone so it may be tough to find a bid history on any closed Jarts auctions. 
The $25 s/h auction on a small ceramic tile is still running though. I guess ebay has deemed it not to be excessive s/h
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2350161013&category=43409&rd=1
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Libra63
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posted on October 4, 2003 03:38:11 PM
I am happy they pulled it. Now it is going to be impossible for anyone to write to the seller because it is the only auction they were running. I hope he wasn't smart enough to get the user ID's before it was pulled. Well eBay was heads up on this one....
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micmic66
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posted on October 4, 2003 03:57:14 PM
Libra63, sounds as if you may have taken a Jart to the head at one time...
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ebayauctionguy
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posted on October 4, 2003 04:23:48 PM
You have to be a complete idiot to hurt someone with Jarts. It's ridiculous that grown adults are not allowed to buy lawn darts.
When I find Jarts, I list them on Epier. It takes awhile, but they usually sell if the starting price is reasonable.
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Libra63
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posted on October 4, 2003 07:40:28 PM
No I haven't been hit but I have seen and heard some terrible accidents with them. One in particular a mother let her kids play in the backyard unsupervised with them and one child hit the other in the head. I know you can't blame the Jarts but Children have to be protected if not by parents then by the Consumer Protection Agency to ban harmful items.
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tomwiii
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posted on October 4, 2003 09:03:12 PM
THREE KIDS DIED because of these silly JARTS!! REPEAT that! 3 CHILDREN DIED!!
I think it is a small price to pay: losing my "freedom" to purchase JARTS if only ONE kid is saved!
GEESH!! seems obvious even to Ralphie!
Ralphie loves Mr Blonde:
"Are you gonna bark all day little doggie, or are you gonna bite?"
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bunnicula
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posted on October 4, 2003 09:38:14 PM
More than 4 times as many people have been killed on trampolines since 1990...no one has banned them.
In 1998, the United States experienced 203 deaths related to bicycle crashes among children ages 14 and under. Since 1992, more than 33 children younger than 14 years have died in in-line skating crashes in the United States, with the majority involving collisions with motor vehicles. Nationally, hospital emergency rooms treated 382,000 bicycle-related (ages 14 years and under), 58,699 in-line skating related (ages 5-14), and 27,000 roller-skating-related injuries (ages 5-14) in 1999. But bikes, skateboards, and roller blades have NOT been banned!!!
But Jarts...JARTS we must definitely protect kids from...
Censorship, like charity, should begin at home; but unlike charity, it should end there --Clare Booth Luce
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karenmx
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posted on October 4, 2003 10:31:33 PM
There's local kid in hospital & not likely to live because a "tunnel" he & his friends were digging (to a whopping depth of 2 feet, more a hole than a tunnel from the photos) collapsed and crushed him, but no one is banning dirt or shovels.
The government can't protect everyone from everything, not even pweshous widdle childwen who should have PARENTS looking out for them, not the government. If *responsible adults* want to play with lawn darts, they should be able to--it's that simple.
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sparkz
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posted on October 4, 2003 10:35:51 PM
The law in California provides some pretty steep fines for drivers who do not have small children buckled securely in an approved child safety seat. Yet there are only two types of these seats available. Those that have been recalled by the CPSC and those that are due to be recalled within the next 90 days. It's very easy for new parents to go through three of these seats by the time a child is legally allowed to ride without one if they keep up to date and purchase a new one everytime their present one is outlawed. These bureaucrats have to do something to justify keeping their jobs.
The light at the end of the tunnel will turn out to be an oncoming train.
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kiara
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posted on October 4, 2003 10:38:50 PM
I've seen jarts listed many times and there are more on now but it's not up to me to report them. If ebay cared at all about their site they would have no problem finding something as simple as that.
With the new one-day auctions coming it will be even easier for the sellers to sell them.
Kids are killed by guns also or they drown in pools because adults aren't careful enough. Jarts have warnings on the package to keep out of the reach of children.
Bottom line, it's against the rules to sell them on ebay and I think most sellers are aware of that so they can deal with the consequences if they get caught.
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sparkz
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posted on October 4, 2003 11:51:12 PM
Kiara...My sentiments exactly. Anyone who aspires to be a seller on Ebay should take a few minutes to review the rules. If he/she doesn't like the rules and regulations Ebay sets for THEIR site, then that seller needs to find another venue. Whether it's jarts or medical equipment (big groan here) if a seller lists an item that is prohibited, they had darn well better be prepared to deal with safeharbor. I think that most of us have been through this before. The real bottom line is Ebay will determine what you will or will not list for sale on their site. They give you two choices: Take it or leave it.
The light at the end of the tunnel will turn out to be an oncoming train.
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kiara
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posted on October 5, 2003 11:22:00 PM
This is another toy that may be banned very soon, the yo yo bungee or water ball.
http://www.house.gov/schakowsky/transcript_9_24_03_yoyobalrecalledin2countries.html
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CBlev65252
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posted on October 6, 2003 04:24:43 AM
Common sense. If parents would just use common sense, the government would not have to make common sense decisions for us. Please, parents, when buying your child a toy, think it through. Examine it and image the worse thing your child could do with it because that's exactly what they will do. They're children. Maybe then the government can stop telling us what we can and cannot buy even as adults. Somewhere the parent needs to be held responsible. Would you have given your child a knife to play with? May as well have if you'd have given him a jart. Those were meant for adults. And it's a shame that now not even an adult can buy them legally. If you think about it, almost anything can be used as a weapon if the person possessing it is creative enough.
The seller should have read Ebay's rules. Ebay is only following the law on this one and it's good that they pulled the auction.
Cheryl
He has his own throne (Revelation 13:2) and his own worshipers (Revelation 13:4).
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Twelvepole
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posted on October 6, 2003 05:10:50 AM
Wow, Cheryl we can agree on somethings...
AIN'T LIFE GRAND... 
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CBlev65252
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posted on October 6, 2003 08:16:55 AM
Yes, twelve, we can agree on some things. Amazing, isn't it?
Cheryl
He has his own throne (Revelation 13:2) and his own worshipers (Revelation 13:4).
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