posted on August 12, 2004 10:37:03 AM
Ebay says sellers may charge a REASONABLE S/H fee IF listed up front. Yet many sellers don't. As an example I just bought a book for .99 cents and seller charged me $8.00 to ship. Please set aside all the "I should of asked etc" as many buyer don't ask.
Nowhere that I can find does it say that I MUST pay amount seller decides. Sure I am obligated to pay for book, .99 cents and he takes Pay Pal. So I pay .99 cents the seller will loose money and I don't get the book. However I did not back out of a sale. I just refused to pay extortion because seller did not get the price he wanted in bids.
Now none of this has happened. I paid the $8.00. However sellers who refuse to list shipping costs up front,can face the above hassles.
Comments.
posted on August 12, 2004 10:42:30 AM Please set aside all the "I should of asked etc"
Then what DO you want us to say? $9.00 for a book and shipping/handling seems pretty reasonable to me... especially if it was a book I wanted. Either ask the questions before bidding... or don't come a' griping!
posted on August 12, 2004 11:01:49 AM
..yeah; me too, i not sure what you want us to say...
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i just shipped a 'PDR,' it weighed, packed 7lbs...cost 5.24 plus 1.30 totalled 6.54...paying by ppal means that 6.54 becomes approx 7.00...i use bwrap, and heavy budweiser carton...so i dont consider 8bucks extortion..and, i realize this is very loose analogy, since your book may have been much less in mass and weight.
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but, if your "number" had been 18bucks for S/H, then we might have room to criticize the seller for excessive, even exorbitant fees..but i dont see extortion...the buyer has a clear choice here...either buy, or dont buy.
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ANNNNNNNNNND, HAVING SAID THAT, like you, i would have paid the amount...in fact, i didnt read an auction, til it was tooooo late, and got hammered like you did..i didnt like what i had "done to myself," but i paid the price...
posted on August 12, 2004 11:04:45 AM
If I see an auction I would like to bid on, & there is NO clear shipping info, then I email the seller for clarification!
If he donna respond, then I DONNNA BID!
You knew going in that there was a HIGH PROBABILITY of exorbitant S&H, so: why the hell didja bid???
Is this a form of S&M BIDDING??
“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we! They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.” ~ GWBush White House 8/5/4
posted on August 12, 2004 11:31:06 AM
The way I read it you are trying to say that if the seller does not state the shipping in the auction, the buyer is not required to pay any shipping. That may be true under some circumstances. But I bet you will get a argument from the seller.
I have several items listed with priority mail as the shipping method, which is based on the buyers zip code. It is stated in the auction that shipping is calculated at the end of the auction. It is also stated to ask any questions before bidding. Therefore, if they don't ask, they are required to pay the postage I ask for at the end.
Be kind. Everyone is fighting their own secret battles.
...Author Unknown
posted on August 12, 2004 03:28:02 PM
He's a my buddy: Mr. Don Ahbeeawiseass
“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we! They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.” ~ GWBush White House 8/5/4
posted on August 14, 2004 11:09:58 AM
Maybe this seller thinks he pulling a fast one on shipping, but the last laugh is on him because as we see here he will not even get bids from many people who want to know shipping in advance.
posted on August 14, 2004 01:59:02 PM
I state in my auctions what the shipping charges are. Most of the time I come out OK, but once in while I lose a little. I shipped a platter last week. I charged $15.00 S&H. Well, with insurance the total was $16.80. I am not sorry, it was because I made damn sure it didn't break. When somone pays $125.00 for a platter, they expect to get it in one piece. They did & were very pleased.
Life Is Too Short To Drink Bad Wine
posted on August 14, 2004 05:05:56 PM
This is one reason eBay has the function "Ask the seller a Question". If you don't like what you see then don't bid. There are too many sellers that never list their shipping charges for that reason.
posted on August 14, 2004 08:46:39 PM
This week I was looking at some jewelry auctions, for some nice real gemstone earrings, pendants, and rings. One buyer I found had some of his auctions at 99 cents Buy Now - but the shipping was $12.00. I know from buying this type of jewlery that it can be shipped for a couple of dollars at the most.
It seems this seller is insuring that he is getting at least $12.99 for each auction - minimum. But is that fair to have the shipping so high?? I didn't buy from him just because of the principle. It didn't even seem like an auction.
And yes, I would rather he have his starting bid higher and a reasonable shipping fee.
Maybe it's me, but it just doesn't seem right. Is it ok to have the shipping obviously THAT much higher - and a low bid? What do you guys think?
ps-Glad you all weathered the storm - have been watching the news and checking this board for news about you all in the path of the mighty winds!!
^..^ meow ^..^ Time Spent With Cats Is Never Wasted
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posted on August 14, 2004 08:54:06 PM
There's a guy who sells the same thing I do. He has over 4000 auctions starting at 99 cents. On one item, which comes in 217 varieties, he charges $8.50 for shipping. It only cost 73 cents to mail it. Add in the envelope and mailing label you're at $1 tops. On another one he has $20, cost $3.85 to mail it.
Debbie
Be kind. Everyone is fighting their own secret battles.
...Author Unknown
posted on August 14, 2004 08:58:07 PM
Rosy...You're right. He wants a minimum of $12.99 for that item. He's taking the low road and cheating Ebay out of their final value fees. There are actually succers out there that will fall for that. He could offer the same item for $12.99 opening bid and offer free shipping, but then he'd have to pay more for FVF. He could also start it at $9.99 and charge $3.00 s/h, but that would be to honest and probably would be unacceptable to him.
A $75.00 solid state device will always blow first to protect a 25 cent fuse ~ Murphy's Law
posted on August 14, 2004 10:00:57 PM
That's why I didn't think it was right - the
final value fees would be much lower! Thanks
Sparkz!
I couldn't put my finger on it, but I knew I
didn't want to buy from him. If he is bold
enough to cheat eBay - there is a higher
probablity he'd cheat us, too.
hey, Sparkz - are you an electrician? Or do
you sell something with "sparks"?
And....as a fairly new gal on the block... is there a story behind "two buck chuck"? or is it just a catch phrase that caught on? Just curious. You know us cats....
Cathy
^..^ meow ^..^ Time Spent With Cats Is Never Wasted
posted on August 14, 2004 10:25:51 PM
Cathy...Two Buck Chuck is the name used to refer to a line of wines made by Charles Shaw Winery in Ceres California. It is only distributed by Trader Joe's and it sells for 2 bucks a bottle. The amazing thing is, this is a high quality wine that has won several awards in competition, including a recent gold medal. It's driving them crazy in the Napa Valley.
As far as the user name, I'm not an electrician, but I'm a ham radio operator. I like to disect, modify, repair and operate almost any kind of communications or electronic equipment. Sometimes , the stuff I play with can have several hundred volts, and occasionally a few thousand volts, on the internal components. One thing I discovered over the years is, when you screw up and let the B+ voltage touch a grounded component, the last thing you will see before the circuit breakers blow is (drumroll)
A whole helluva lot of sparkz!!
A $75.00 solid state device will always blow first to protect a 25 cent fuse ~ Murphy's Law
posted on August 15, 2004 06:07:47 AM
Goodmorning!
First off what your saying is not right of the seller to do, so I would stay away from sellers that do that.
But there are times when shipping a book could be high like in my case, I listed this 5lb book for 4.99 (it was worth 45.00) but because of the weight I felt to start it low because the shipping was listed at 6.00.
Well I still was wrong on the shipping because shipping came out to $8.00 parcel post and I dont usually like shipping anything other then Priority,(but priority in this case was 9.80) all my books always go priority so shipping would be listed higher then most But I will NEVER ship Media Mail. I also have it listed in my auction that I don't ship media mail so please don't ask me to.
Sometimes shipping seems high but it all depends whats being shipped and how heavy it is, when you know that the seller is just over priced on shipping then just stay away from that seller, but if you really want to bid then ask all questions before you do so your not surprised.
This i'm sure you Know but you just didn't did it so that means you just pay what the seller asks of you now because you commited yourself by bidding.
posted on August 15, 2004 09:38:34 AM
Use media rate for books, not parcel post. I can send a five pound book from California to New York state for $3.52. And I package my stuff to, as one buyer put it in his FB, withstand a nuclear explosion.
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posted on August 15, 2004 03:06:49 PM
yes i know how cheap it is to ship books media mail rate but I also have first hand knowledge about all the trouble you can have as a seller. Also, the longer time in transit and the handling is not worth it to me.
I would rather list my books at a cheaper selling price and use priority mail then to deal with media rate shipping.
posted on August 15, 2004 08:43:57 PM
I most definately will ask seller in advance how much the shipping will be to my zip, HOWEVER sellers that charge exorbitant shipping fees for items that can be shipped for a whole lot less and then some are low life thieves in my book, and Ebay has a name for it as well--its call FEE AVOIDANCE.
posted on August 16, 2004 08:48:54 AM
tonimar, I have shipped thousands of books media mail, and can't think of one that the PO damaged. The key is good packing. Occasionally on is lost, but that is due to other causes.
posted on August 16, 2004 02:26:39 PM
Good discussion. The point of the thread was and is, that some sellers list items on ebay with NO P/H comment at all. We all know many buyers don't put much effort in, just bid.
Some sellers are trying to raise the S/H fee by avoiding the subject in there listings and then get mad when things go wrong.
I am sure no one here does that but seems to be an increasing trend.
Best regards to all.......
posted on August 16, 2004 02:58:54 PM
"We all know many buyers don't put much effort in, just bid."
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without trying to cross swords with you, please re-read your last post...it would seem that the poster didnt put much "typing" effort into the message...
i.e., what is P/H... annnnnnnnnnnnnd,
"...subject in there listings.."
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and, this is a growing trend with all of us...myoldtoy
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