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 toasted36
 
posted on October 2, 2004 01:22:09 PM
Hello everyone ! I picked this up from a yard sale a few weeks ago and as always I'm in the dark. I have A bunch of questions any help will great appreciated as always.

1. Is it Japanese or Chinese ?

2. Any guesses on age ?

3. The Kimono will fit Amanda (shes a adult size 7-8) but it tight so maybe it for a child ? and is a toy to play dress up in ? or would be common for it to be small because Orientals are know to be thin.

The fabric feels like one of those weaved dish rags ,not silk or polyester on one side...and like chiffon on the inside.

It has what looks like wings to put in the hair so I think it's a Butterfly














 
 stopwhining
 
posted on October 2, 2004 02:12:39 PM
This may be Korean.
are there characters on the box,see if you can zero in on the design.
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 toasted36
 
posted on October 2, 2004 04:07:30 PM
Hi Stop. Thanks for your help ! Heres some pics of the designs on the box. Sorry it took me so long to get back. My daughter turned 18 yesterday but is having her party today,eekk ! lol teens running out my ears tonight and it was hard trying to get back.

The last pic below is on the kimono itself ...hope it has enough light for you to see it.











 
 chathamsue
 
posted on October 2, 2004 04:24:57 PM
One of my daughters is Korean. I think this looks more like a Korean hanbok - although different than the ones we own. The headpiece looks similiar to what I have seen too. Definitely not for dress-up play!

Sue
[ edited by chathamsue on Oct 2, 2004 04:29 PM ]
 
 stopwhining
 
posted on October 2, 2004 04:39:45 PM
lots of funny looking chickens!!,this is not japanese design.
the geometric design ones-one has a chinese character in the middle,one is for longevity,the other is for fortune.
It looks like some kind of dressup costume for festival,what is that metal pipe??
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 Japerton
 
posted on October 2, 2004 04:51:06 PM
It is Korean.
Not japanese, not chinese.
The "alphabet" is Korean and the dress is for a little girl, duh, but it's typical of the bright colors for children.
I love the box, the whole thing does not seem like Tourist junk, but an entire ensemble. Maybe for the tourist, when I was there my mom bought a similar get up for my then 3 year old sister. The accessories were different. This was back in the mid '70's. Rubber shoes, little nylon socks, etc. The dress is identical to my little sisters. Childrens colors, as I said. (My mom, bless her heart, tried to get me into one of those get-ups and I sprinted out of the shop....daaaad!)

Look up Korean clothing on google, you will find that there are many many layers (It does get freaking freezing in Korea), and it is an "empire" style waistline, versus Japanese obi, which is set lower.

Pull out a thin strand at the edge of the piece, perhaps trim, instead of pull.
Light it on fire, if it burns brightly it is natural. If it melts it is poly/nylon manmade.

Look at the handiwork, Korea has been making clothes for import as a third world nation for a long time, now they are "2nd world" (i.e. cars and nice electronics) so it could be from at least 30++ years that you will see machined hems, but that is just my personal experience, since I was a kid in Korea, I am sure that goes back to post wwII.
(there is prolly a google search on industrialization of Korea...)

Anyhow, what a neat find. I would not call it uber old, just looking at the hat. Maybe 50's or 60's??? The pearls look plastic and that dates it apres wwII, but the color vibe is sooo late mid century.

I don't know how helpful that actually was!


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 chathamsue
 
posted on October 2, 2004 05:01:12 PM
I have done a bit more looking. The fact that it appears to tie in the center vs. to the side indicates it is a hanbok for a male. A hanbok for a woman or girl has a dress where the top portion is like a slip with a skirt attached. Then a very short jacket goes over it that has a sash that ties off center.

These are very colorful outfits & typically not color combinations we see put together in the US.

This appears to be the top half of a mans hanbok but it should have pants that go with it, too.

 
 toasted36
 
posted on October 2, 2004 05:28:56 PM
wow thanks for the replies ... I'll list it as a don't know much about it cause I have no idea as to if it's for a boy or girl.There's no pants but that doesn't mean there wasn't some at one point. Stop the metal pipe I think is a hair accessory as are the wing looking things lol yeah this is gonna be a fun auction. Japerton it burned brightly ,thanks for that tip. I can say I learn something new today ! Thanks everyone
[ edited by toasted36 on Oct 3, 2004 10:31 AM ]
 
 chathamsue
 
posted on October 2, 2004 05:37:41 PM
info on the hairpins:

The appearance of hanbok is enhanced with a variety of accessories. The major accessory used in the past was the hair rod called binyeo, which is not only used to keep a chignon neat and tidy but for ornamental purposes. Binyeo were made of diverse materials such as gold, silver, wood, nickel, coral, and jade and the material and length of the rod signified the social Tteoljam, or "fluttering hairpin," was another major hair accessory worn by women of the royal court and upper class. They were worn in sets of three: one in front of the center part, and one at each side. Carved butterflies, stars and other shapes were attached to the end of a kind of spring so that butterflies and stars seemed to be fluttering about the wearer's head. Cheopji, another type of hairpin, was worn in front of the center part when the hair was worn in a chignon.

While most of these accessories have gone out of use, pendants called norigae are still worn with hanbok today. Attached to the skirt band at chest level, it hangs down between the folds of the skirt and is composed of an ornament made of gold, silver or other precious metal or stone, and an ornamental knot and tassels. From the past norigae have symbolized wishes for wealth, honor, many children, and longevity and have always been treasured as heirlooms.
status of the wearer. Binyeo are made up of two parts, the bulbous head and the rod. The head is decorated. Women of the royal court wore binyeo carved with dragon or phoenix designs, and ordinary women wore binyeo with bamboo, plum, tree and flower designs.

Sue
[ edited by chathamsue on Oct 2, 2004 05:39 PM ]
 
 sanmar
 
posted on October 2, 2004 05:48:30 PM
Looks Japanes to me, I brought one home in 1954 & has some of the same inscriptons on it. Not sure if the Chinese had kimonos.


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