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 mcjane
 
posted on October 21, 2004 09:59:14 PM new
Saw a lady on the local news who was a victim of an eBay spoof email telling her, her account would be closed if she didn't follow a link to enter her personal info.
SS#, CC#, PW, etc. She did & you know the rest.
When she found out & then somehow got the email address of the scammer, maybe from eBay, she emailed him & asked why he did it. His answer, " You gave me the information so why not"

She was new to eBay & trying to sell a car.

They went on to say it is very difficult to catch these scammers because they keep changing their ISP, web sites & email addresses.
1.8 million dollars was reported stolen this way in the past year. Wonder how many didn't report & what the real total is.







 
 jackswebb
 
posted on October 21, 2004 10:38:44 PM new
This Really is Sad to hear,,,,,,more people should be coming here to get info. This is THE best information board on the face of THE planet.......1.8 million? Incredible....

OH well,you know what they say,,,,,,,

and the beat goes on,,,,,,,,,,,,,

I WAS gona NOT add my tag line but then again,,,it still holds water,,,,,


The GOOD,the BAD and the UGLY.
 
 sparkz
 
posted on October 21, 2004 11:02:40 PM new
The credit card I have on file with Vendio and Ebay expires at the end of this month. I just received my new one and got it activated. About an hour ago, I updated the cc info on both my Ebay selling accounts and both my Vendio accounts. Really felt weird. The full time, I was thinking about all the spoof emails I have received wanting me to do the same thing I just did. The way I new they were due to expire is that Vendio posted a small reminder on my sales manager and image hosting pages. Also, Ebay will send you an email after you submit credit card information for any purpose on their site. It came within 3 minutes after I updated my info. Here is what the notification looks like:

Dear eBay user:

As a courtesy and for your safety, eBay notifies you whenever your credit card is used for
certain activities on the site.

Once you have a credit card on file with us and the same card is used again for certain
activities on eBay, we will send this notice to let you know that the credit card has been used.
This includes activities involving your account or those of a family member, business associate,
or friend. These activities include using the same credit card to:

* register an eBay account using an anonymous email domain such as Yahoo or Hotmail,

* set up a selling account,

* update the credit card information on another account that uses the same card,

* gain access the Mature Audiences category, or

* place a bid over $15,000.

If you did not use your credit card for any of the above reasons, please confirm with all
members of your household as well as friends or business associates that they have not
recently used your credit card on eBay. Their use of your card for any of the above purposes
will also generate this notice.

If you are still unable to explain the use of your card, please inform us immediately by taking the following steps:

1. Click on "help" at the top of the eBay Home page.
2. Click on "Contact Us", located under "eBay Help" on the left side of the page.
3. On the Contact Us page, select the following:
* "Report an account security issue"
* "Credit Cards"
* "I received an email about my credit card but I didn't use it"
4. Click the "Continue" button.
5. Follow the directions on-screen to send a message to our Trust & Safety team.

** Do not reply to this email as this is a system-generated message **

eBay Safety Tip:

Some community members have reported receiving deceptive emails claiming to come from eBay, PayPal, or other popular Web sites. The people who send these emails (also known as "spoof" or "phishing" emails) hope that unsuspecting recipients will reply or click on a link contained in the email and then provide sensitive personal information.

You can take a few simple steps to protect your account and prevent senders of deceptive emails from doing harm:
* If you need to update your personal or financial information on eBay, type the eBay Web address into your browser or use a bookmarked link.
* Use My eBay or the Site Map to find pages on eBay, rather than relying on links from emails.
* Report suspicious email immediately by forwarding it to [email protected].
eBay's Help system provides detailed information about spoof emails, identity theft, and what to do if your eBay account has been compromised.



A $75.00 solid state device will always blow first to protect a 25 cent fuse ~ Murphy's Law
 
 ladyjewels2000
 
posted on October 22, 2004 01:51:43 AM new
The saddest part is that this gets people who wouldn't normally dare give out that information over the phone. I had it happen to a friend of mine.
I'm glad to see that ebay finally acknowledge it - it's not their fault but that's no reason to stick your head in the sand either.

 
 cherishedclutter
 
posted on October 22, 2004 02:50:22 AM new
I saw that report too. She said she knew better, but she did it anyway.

 
 classicrock000
 
posted on October 22, 2004 04:55:47 AM new
well if she did it anyway, I guess she DIDNT know better

 
 CBlev65252
 
posted on October 22, 2004 05:30:46 AM new
How terrible for this woman. It's happening all over and not just through email. We hired a temp a couple of years ago. Nice girl. As it turns out, while helping to file personnel files (our Mgr. was none too smart), she managed to steal SS#'s and other pertinent information right out from under the Mgr.'s nose. The CIA got involved. Turns out she was part of an international ring of ID theives. When they found her, she was sitting amid hundreds of credit cards obtained through identity theft. All along there were signs that something was wrong, but the personnel mgr. didn't believe us - secret cell phone conversations, leaving abrutly during the day, sneaking up behind people, etc.

About the only thing I can say is trust your intuition. If it doesn't feel right, it probably isn't. If you think something may not be legit, check it out before you submit anything to anyone. Like they say, the best consumer is an educated consumer!

Cheryl

. . .if you still try to defend the infamies and horrors perpetrated by that Antichrist- I really believe he is Antichrist- I will have nothing more to do with you and you are no longer my friend.. . - War and Peace, Tolstoy
 
 mamachia
 
posted on October 22, 2004 07:05:31 AM new
Most people are not as savy as us Ebay sellers, so they will fall victim to this scam. I just recieved an email this morning from Household bank. Cheez, I don't have an account from Household Bank. I responded with a few unkind words where it bounced back since I wasn't stupid enough to click on to the link. Here is the origination. "mailrelay2.njdmz.us.hsbc" So it looks like US but where might it be.
Rosanne


 
 stonecold613
 
posted on October 22, 2004 09:10:50 PM new
About an hour ago, I updated the cc info on both my Ebay selling accounts and both my Vendio accounts.


FYI,
If you are using the same credit card for PayPal, when you update your account, it will automatically become unconfirmed. It is very stupid, but you will need to re-confirm your account. It is a way for PayPal to suck a few more bucks out of your pocket.
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http://www.rense.com/general51/dump.htm



Democrats support anyone but Kerry in 2004.
 
 bunnicula
 
posted on October 22, 2004 09:27:06 PM new
Yes, many people are naive enough to fall for emails like that. I just forwarded on to American Express two emails I received that tried identity theft, telling me that if I didn't imput the necessary data (social security number, AmEx account number, etc.) immediately my card would be cancelled. Yeah, right. But some people might be made nervous enough to do just tha without looking into it further. The message source showed that they both originated in Brazil, BTW.
____________________

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 mcjane
 
posted on October 22, 2004 09:38:24 PM new

Here's one I got a few days ago. Anyone know what country it came from. I have no idea how you can figure that out.

I did send a copy to Wells Fargo.

Subj: Wells Customer: Ticket No.00302173213
Date: 10/19/2004 9:08:16 PM Eastern Standard Time
From: [email protected] (Wells Fargo)
Reply-to: [email protected] (Wells Fargo )
To: [email protected]

AUTHORIZATIONS / CLEARING AND SETTLEMENT DEPARTMENT

MESSAGE CENTER: TICKET No. 00302173213

Our department recorded a payment request from Expedia - Online Travel Agency ( EXPEDIA.COM )
to enable the charge of $ 619,49 on your account.

This amount is supposed to cover the cost of a 5 days reservation ( 21-26 October / 2004 )
at a Five Stars Hotel located in New Delhi / INDIA, under the name of GARY EDWARDS.


THE PAYMENT IS PENDING FOR THE MOMENT.

• If you made this reservation or if you just authorize this payment, please ignore or remove this email message. The transaction will be shown on your monthly statement as "Rama Bangalore-Hotel".

• If you didn't make this payment / reservation and would like to decline the $ 619,49 billing to your card,
please follow the link below to deny the payment:

We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause, and appreciate your assistance in helping us maintain the integrity of the entire Wells Fargo system.

Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter.

Please do not reply to this mail. Mail sent to this address cannot be answered


----------------------- Headers --------------------------------
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from rly-yh04.mx.aol.com (rly-yh04.mail.aol.com [172.18.180.68]) by air-yh02.mail.aol.com (v101_r1.6) with ESMTP id MAILINYH21-2c24175ba6c36; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 21:08:16 -0400
Received: from mailmta.e-insites.com (ecallingcardonline [66.206.10.180]) by rly-yh04.mx.aol.com (v101_r1.6) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYH46-2c24175ba6c36; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 21:07:56 -0400
Received: from CYBER11 ([172.183.207.251]) by mailmta.e-insites.com with MailEnable ESMTP; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 18:08:26 -0700
Reply-To: "Wells Fargo " <[email protected]>
From: "Wells Fargo" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Wells Customer: Ticket No.00302173213
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 18:07:37 -0700
Importance: Normal
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: m5mailer.com PID{606b506f-00f0-4275-950d-9279d27ffe34}
RI{281d8-88c6b}
Content-Type: text/html;
charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
X-AOL-IP: 66.206.10.180
X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 1:0:0:
X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 1




 
 bunnicula
 
posted on October 22, 2004 09:41:48 PM new
rly-yh04.mx.aol.com


If I'm not mistaken, the ".mx" in the address indicates Mexico.
____________________

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 mamachia
 
posted on October 22, 2004 09:49:02 PM new
After I posted earlier today, I received a first in one of these emails. It was totally in Italian. I am Italian but why bother reading it since I knew what it was all about anyway. Are they getting desperate or what that they have to try to pull it off in another language? Ballsy to say the least.
[ edited by mamachia on Oct 22, 2004 10:08 PM ]
 
 bunnicula
 
posted on October 22, 2004 10:02:28 PM new
Maybe you got one that was meant for an Italian cardholder. These scumbags aim this crap all over the world.
____________________

"Bad temper is its own scourge. Few things are more bitter than to feel bitter. A man's venom poisons himself more than his victim." --Charles Buxton
 
 sparkz
 
posted on October 22, 2004 10:05:54 PM new
McJane,
It's from Mexico. That is definitely NOT from Wells Fargo. I have an account with them and receive email occasionally from them, so I know what their headers are supposed to look like.


A $75.00 solid state device will always blow first to protect a 25 cent fuse ~ Murphy's Law
 
 mcjane
 
posted on October 22, 2004 10:10:28 PM new
Thanks bunni & sparkz

Mexico huh, I'll be darned. Since the 'trip" was to India I thought it might have originated there.

I see the mx, would never have guessed that meant Mexico.

Edited to add:
I never fall for this stuff, might have at one time, but thanks to what I learned here it will never happen.
[ edited by mcjane on Oct 22, 2004 10:14 PM ]
 
 
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