posted on February 2, 2005 09:39:45 PM
Ebay must be getting the message that we are not happy with the new pricing. and are trying to bluff us.
Dear eBay Seller,
Recently, we announced fee changes taking effect on February 18th and affecting certain optional listing upgrades on eBay.com, the subscription fee for a Basic eBay Store, and Final Value Fees on Store Inventory Format listings. Based on Community input, we understand our original communication was a bit unclear.
To clarify, no changes are being made to the Final Value Fees on Auction-style, Auction with Buy It Now option, and Fixed Priced listings (with the exception of certain Business & Industrial capital equipment categories). Final Value Fee changes apply only to Store Inventory Format listings, a listing format only available to Store sellers and with durations of 30, 60, 90, and 120 days and Good 'Til Cancelled.
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posted on February 2, 2005 09:51:38 PM
Sounds like a doctor telling his patient "You may experience a very small amount of temporary discomfort" before he performs the vascetomy.
A $75.00 solid state device will always blow first to protect a 25 cent fuse ~ Murphy's Law
posted on February 2, 2005 10:25:03 PM
The old days of the year 2000 are over with, you better START your selling price at what you want,,$29.99,,,otherwise,,,,,$9.99 is what yer gonna get! and be SURE to include a healthy handling fee to offset the FEES! like around $9.99..........but of course from what i got today they seem to IGNORE that FEE and just send the WINNING bid........- any handling fees,,,,,
BID $27.00
UPS $ 7.93
Hey! you need to send the stated $9.99 handling fee........
some have,,,,others to my amazement,,have said,,,,,keep it,,,,,,and keep the pay pay payment I won't send anymore? were talking $15.00 + $9.99........basically,,, good bye?
posted on February 2, 2005 10:36:28 PM
I just keep mulling over the increase Ebay is asking for hosting a picture in an auction. I launch everything through Vendio, and I cannot imagine paying 35 cents for one photo in a listing. Is this true? I remember when pictures were 10 cents each on Ebay. I'm sure I read somewhere that Ebay's picture fee has gone up from 25 to 35 cents. Ebay administrators keep saying all their increases are for "extras" or "enhancements" to one's auctions. I do NOT consider a photo an extra!
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Is it true that the only difference between a yard sale and a trash pickup is how close to the road the stuff is placed?
posted on February 2, 2005 10:46:19 PM
I can see NO reason for listing in any place but DIRECTLY through e bay.......The ONLY reason I came to vendio was for the LAUNCH thing, e bay has had it for quite some time now.....It's basically a slam bam, Thank you Ma'm proceedure,,,,minutes and you have a Listing on e bay......No Extra fees,,,,,
posted on February 2, 2005 11:07:30 PM
Roadsmith...I think the increase from .25 to .35 is for gallery pictures only. I don't know if they're thinking about tinkering with the regular listing picture prices or not. If not, give 'em time. I host all my pix on Vendio. No way would I consider using Ebay's picture hosting. Not only is it expensive, after they compress them, the quality is horrible.
A $75.00 solid state device will always blow first to protect a 25 cent fuse ~ Murphy's Law
posted on February 3, 2005 07:22:30 AM
You're right, Sparkz. The increased picture fee is for the gallery.
I agree with you about Ebay picture hosting; in my book it's inferior to Vendio's.
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Is it true that the only difference between a yard sale and a trash pickup is how close to the road the stuff is placed?
posted on February 3, 2005 03:43:09 PM
In the last 2 weeks i have been doing an experiment with photos. gallery versus no gallery. and i found that i am better off not using gallery photos. i am getting between 50% to 100% more hits. so instead of just looking at the gallery photo they have to go into the auctions and check them properly. so i dont use gallery photos anymore. and all this happened because ebay want to raise its prices. have others found this too.?
posted on February 3, 2005 05:27:58 PM
Sheer terror keeps me from doing away with the gallery picture! But recently I did list a couple of things without a gallery picture, and they did sell.
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Is it true that the only difference between a yard sale and a trash pickup is how close to the road the stuff is placed?
posted on February 3, 2005 06:15:04 PM
I have stopped using the Gallery for the the last 3 weeks and I'm still selling and saving money, my object now is to save as much money on un needed fees, and so far I'm really do well.
I stopped using Vendio service so I'm saveing 60.00 a month.
I am using a service that does for me everything that vendio dose and it only cost me $4.95 a month, I get 50 MB for my pictues, which is over 1000 pictures, I get everything I need to make a listing on ebay, they also do my feedback for me.
I love the program and I love the $$$savings.
You don't pay more then $4.95 EVER, there program is very similar to Vendo's in the way you upload pictures and the listing page, They give you templets but not as fancy as Vendio, but fancy templets that is not important to me.
posted on February 4, 2005 08:52:25 AM
Looks good.
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Is it true that the only difference between a yard sale and a trash pickup is how close to the road the stuff is placed?
[ edited by Roadsmith on Feb 4, 2005 11:17 AM ]
posted on February 4, 2005 09:28:20 AM
Good luck getting that particular site to work
with a Firewall. Has anyone else been able to
leave their Firewall enabled and to use that site?
When loading new categories in Vendio Sales
Manager, I have to disable my Firewall. That's
not so big a deal, but I couldn't even log
into SD with the Firewall enabled. When I tried to
actually use the service (once logged in), I had to
disable the Firewall every time
I hit enter. That makes me suspicious of
their low price.
Just wish I sold enough to justify using AW.
<sigh>
posted on February 4, 2005 09:37:22 AM"Once there was a web-site... Free and true.... Red white & blue... Brother can ya spare a dollar?"
Hey he's a DOG for crimminy's sake!
"Who could have possibly envisioned an erection — an election in Iraq at this point in history?" Prez.Jim Beam, at the White House, Washington, D.C., Jan. 10, 2005
posted on February 4, 2005 11:18:32 AM
Yikes, Jack! You scared the bejeezus out of me. Would I really get kicked off? I have deleted the offending words.
Not sure my ticker can handle all this excitement. . . .
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Is it true that the only difference between a yard sale and a trash pickup is how close to the road the stuff is placed?
posted on February 4, 2005 12:27:46 PM
I'm interested in the comments that were posted about deleting the gallery photo, and it not making a difference.
I just got re-started with the collectible beer cans.
When I first started with those in the spring of 2002, eBay had just introduced the gallery photo - it was a bit of a novelty. Initially, there were only 2 of us who were willing to spring for the extra 25 cents because we both had big collections and lots of groups and sets - not individual cans - so it was more justified. And, we did much better than average.
Now, at least half or more of the listings have the gallery photo - even on individual cans, even where the photo is lousy.
So, I'm not sure if that means that the gallery photo has become so common it's worthless as a selling tool. It used to be that people hit that link to browse "the gallery" section. Now, that "gallery" section is huge.
But, then again, if using a gallery photo has become the standard, dropping it might decrease page views - put me at a disadvantage.
I've always used it, so I'm reluctant to give it up.
But it looks like the market for collectible beer cans has declined since I last listed any.
What I'm mulling over is deleting the gallery photos, but re-instating PayPal for credit cards.
These are low-ticket items, so I can't afford all of the bells and whistles.
But maybe it would work better that way(?).
When I dropped the credit card option, I kept the ability to pay via PayPal with a cash transfer. Last spring, that was working out OK. But the beer cans might need more oomphh to sell now.
posted on February 4, 2005 01:45:01 PM
I never use the gallery unless it is Penny gallery day. I have found the people will browse right by my listings when I do use the gallery. If I don't, my views go up and the bids follow. Once a bidder is in an auction, the chances they will be go way up. If they simply browse the gallery, there is a zero percent chance they will bid. You do the math.
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[ edited by stonecold613 on Feb 4, 2005 03:49 PM ]
posted on February 4, 2005 01:59:21 PM
So, stonecold, you feel that if you don't use the gallery photo, it's more likely that people will click on your headline to see the full ad?
That's interesting.
I may try some ads without the gallery photo for a change.
Or, it's always possible to do some with and some without.
posted on February 4, 2005 03:31:53 PM
I agree with you stonecold. you dont need the gallery. i no longer use the gallery when listing . it does force people to look at the auctions properly. and there are better chances of bids.
posted on February 4, 2005 03:50:30 PM
It has become so much so that I will have to seriously consider passing on using the gallery on the next penny gallery day.
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Alive in 2005
Sellers are not stupid. We know a bad deal when we see one. We know that you are further attempting to confuse sellers with this latest email.
Please understand, those who are smart enough know when you are attempting to bend us over to stick it to us. You are seeing a mass group of defectors who refuse to accept your new fee structure, especially those in the ebay stores. Sellers who remain will eventually be screwed again at a later date (to be determined by eBay) when eBay and their stockholders realize this latest fee structure further decreases their returns. We understand that eBay views their sellers as targets. We understand that ebay enjoys holding sellers upside down and shaking their wallets.
Sellers also understand that there is a very simple way for eBay and sellers to make more money. It is called, "holding bidders responsible for placing bids by making them pay immediately." This very simple idea would increase the income of eBay and eliminate the use of Final Value Fee refund requests altogether. It would also increase profits for Paypal who would reap the rewards of accepting those immediate payments once an auction ends. You got the idea when you applied this option to Buy It Now. Now take that extra step and help yourselves to a larger profit margin, help sellers collect from deadbeat bidders, and I am sure you won't see the backlash that you continue to receive.
That's a Competitor!!!!!
