CBlev65252
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posted on June 22, 2005 05:44:07 AM
I'm trying to clean accumulated items. Summer is good for that. This rug is a very early one although I don't know how to date it. The ends are in bad shape, though, and there are worn spots. Do you think it would be worth listing it and if so, where do I start on dating it or valuing it? This is the reason it's been sitting around here for so long!! It doesn't look Persian to me either. Excuse the lousy photo! I had to erase all the eBay junk laying around it, LOL! It really is time to clean!!!
And, what the heck is a "semi-antique"? I'm seeing that used in the antique rug search. New term for vintage?? I've also seen 1960 referred to as antique? Come one sellers, I was born before that. Does that make me an antiquity? 
I also have this art deco copper bowl signed Gottfrid Carlson, Eskilstuna, Made in Sweden. Anyone ever hear of this person??
All done pestering you now!
Cheryl
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ladyjewels2000
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posted on June 22, 2005 07:21:24 AM
I saw something the other day about dating fabric / rugs by the dye used. I think it said to wet a paper towel and rub it on the item. If the dye rubs off it is old - natural dye.
I find that anything Scandinavian has some value - I think you can get away with calling it Danish Modern? Have you goggled the name. Could be an important craftsman if your lucky. Too bad it was polished.
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rustygumbo
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posted on June 22, 2005 07:56:40 AM
Cheryl, we have a midcentury furniture/collectibles store, and that Swedish piece has a more Deco style to it (especially in the handle). I can't make out the design in the bowl, but it resembles more art nouveau from what I can tell.
I cannot really date the piece, but if my assumptions are correct, it is modern (after 1950) that combined two very popular design eras from the early 1900's.
I wouldn't necessarily describe it as Danish Modern, though I would use it as a keyword along with Swedish and Sweden. It would look great rolling around in the back of my Swedish Volvo 240 Wagon!!! LOL.
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stopwhining
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posted on June 22, 2005 08:04:03 AM
how can you call a swedish item danish modern??
sweden is sweden and denmark is denmark??
But then Danish Empire once included the german states and Greece was its protectorate.
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sparkz
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posted on June 22, 2005 08:18:10 AM
What are the dimensions of the rug? If it's room size, you need to consider how you will pack and ship it. This is the type of item that could easily go oversized and get expensive to ship.
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ladyjewels2000
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posted on June 22, 2005 08:22:57 AM
OK I was wrong about putting in the Danish part but it is a "look" that collectors search for. Scandinavian / Swedish would still attract lookers.
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CBlev65252
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posted on June 22, 2005 08:42:24 AM
It's an area rug. Won't be difficult to ship at all. About 48" x 64".
Cheryl
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Roadsmith
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posted on June 22, 2005 09:49:39 AM
Cheryl: The design of the rug edges right above the fringe are almost identical to an old Persian rug (badly worn) that belonged to my husband's grandparents (married in 1903) and which we now own. Not to say it's authentic, but honestly it looks authentic, just eyeballing it.
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lovepotions
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posted on June 22, 2005 10:06:39 AM
In my experience that rug looks more like a Turkish kilim.
Take it into a professional cleaner for a price quote. If possible try and find a shop that has an OLD Persian, Turk or Armenian running the joint.
If it is worthless you'll know at the time you get the cleaning quote and can walk away.
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pelorus
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posted on June 22, 2005 11:56:27 AM
The rug is probably Turkish semi-antique. Worth asking a dealer.
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buyhigh
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posted on June 22, 2005 12:10:16 PM
A kilim is a rug that is not knotted. Just has a warp and weft - like a Navajo rug.This one with the border design looks like a hand knotted one. Curious if the warp ( fringes) is cotton or wool. I too would take it to a shop run by someone who deals in nothing but Middle Eastern Oriental rugs for an opinion.
buyhigh
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CBlev65252
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posted on June 22, 2005 12:44:19 PM
Buyhigh - it is wool and not all fringe. Some of it's where the ends have come apart over the years.
I just spoke to the person who gave it to me and she said it belonged to her great grandparents which would put it late 19th, early 20th century. Coincidentally, Roadsmith, they were married in 1902 just one year before your grandparents. They received it as a wedding gift. That's all she could tell me. At any rate, it was free to me so whatever I can sell it for will be all profit.
Cheryl
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getalife
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posted on June 22, 2005 01:18:07 PM
Don't know if this will help but I was recently told by a knowledgeable collector that good rugs came in very odd sizes such as 83 1/2" x 52 3/8", not standard sizes like 48" x 64". This is due to weaving until the pattern comes out the way they want it to. The pattern isn't designed to a standard size. They may not even be the same length on opposite sides due to the hand weaving process. Also, wear is OK as long as the wear is even across the surface.
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CBlev65252
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posted on June 22, 2005 02:32:35 PM
getalife
Those were approximate measurements. Since some of the end is gone, I can't get exact. The width is actually 48-1/2.
Cheryl
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stonecold613
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posted on June 22, 2005 09:43:56 PM
I have an oil spot in my garage that it would make a good cover for. That way, the garage sale that we are having soon, I won't have anyone getting oily feet.
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