ladyjewels2000
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posted on July 20, 2005 04:42:30 AM
Really I need help??
These came with a little antique (I think) folding pool table. They feel like stone and are very small - about 1 1/2" across. I was wondering if they could be clay?
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estatesalestuff
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posted on July 20, 2005 04:55:02 AM
I'm sure ClassicRock will be dropping in any moment with SOME kind of remark. 
ROFL!!!
Good morning!
Marcia/Ohio
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cblev65252
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posted on July 20, 2005 04:55:41 AM
If they were clay, wouldn't they be more likely to break when hit with a cue stick or when hit against each other? Very cool, though!
Cheryl
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carolinetyler
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posted on July 20, 2005 06:16:30 AM
They look like clay - I think they're great! Here's something similar I found in completed auctions:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7167376512&category=75193&ssPageName=WDVW&rd=1
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niel35
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posted on July 20, 2005 06:33:51 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7167376512&category=75193&ssPageName=WDVW&rd=1
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vintagepostcardsdotorg
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posted on July 20, 2005 06:36:41 AM
my husband says "they're not my balls!"
he thinks they're granite. he said clay would shatter, esp. with prolonged use.
http://stores.ebay.com/postcards-postcards?refid=postcards-postcards
http://www.vintagepostcards.org
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Roadsmith
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posted on July 20, 2005 07:44:39 AM
Yup. Clicking on this thread, I was SURE the first reply would be from Classicrock.
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ladyjewels2000
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posted on July 20, 2005 08:38:03 AM
Estate - I was going to title this "Can anyone help me with my balls?" but lost my nerve. lol
Did they make granite billiard balls? I know they did make clay ones. They almost look like the stuff they made for kitchen floors way back when - they don't use it anymore but I can't remember what it is called.
[ edited by ladyjewels2000 on Jul 20, 2005 08:44 AM ]
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carolinetyler
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posted on July 20, 2005 08:58:59 AM
Linoleum? Not sure if that's the right spelling though.
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birgittaw
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posted on July 20, 2005 09:11:33 AM
Some kind of rubber compound? Asphalt type -- which is the old linoleum if you've ever taken one up and seen the black back. I've never seen a pool ball regardless of size that didn't have some sort of resilient covering over the ball itself.
B/
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stonecold613
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posted on July 20, 2005 10:49:08 AM
Classics dog has steel balls. When he runs, they call him sparky.
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Alive in 2005
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parklane64
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posted on July 20, 2005 01:09:25 PM
I don't know whose they are.
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LtRay
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posted on July 20, 2005 11:07:16 PM
check out "accessories" on this link, also google "antique billiard balls"
http://www.antiquebilliardtables.com/
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ladyjewels2000
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posted on July 21, 2005 03:11:14 AM
Classics must be on vacation??
LtRay - that's a great site. Those are some fabulous tables. They did have some small speckled balls but they didn't say what they were made of? But I sure did like that request price part.
My next question is "Should I list them (the table & balls) together or separately"?
I think I may have more luck if I split them
but I hate to see sellers that split sets of jewelry when so many collector are out there trying to put sets back together??? Is billiard stuff different.
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birgittaw
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posted on July 21, 2005 04:25:54 AM
Here, an answer from a google seach:
What are pool balls made of?
"Thermoset resin.
"Thermoset" is an adjective used to describe synthetic substances that set permanently when heated. And resin, in addition to being the sticky stuff that comes out of trees, is a "solid or liquid synthetic organic polymer used as the basis of plastics, adhesives, varnishes, etc."
As it turns out, billiard balls have played a vital role in the creation of polymers, or synthetic plastics. An interesting tidbit from the Polymer Selection Database explains:
One of the first developments of plastics was as a replacement to ivory billard balls, due to the dwindling supply of ivory. As far back as 1866, elephants were being slaughtered at an alarming rate to keep up with the demand for ivory billiard balls, billards having become America's favorite pastime."
Do you have a complete set of the balls? That's not clear from your post. If not, I'd split them up -- and if you do, I'd probably still split them up, naturally with a mention that you have the table/balls in a separate listing.
B/
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ladyjewels2000
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posted on July 21, 2005 04:43:10 AM
Yes I have the whole set and 2 clue ball - the rack and ball holder which is only good for this size balls. Split the ball up? Really - I had not thought of that. I don't really know if that makes sense in this case as it all fits so well together. Let me post a photo. Be right back!!
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ladyjewels2000
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posted on July 21, 2005 04:45:37 AM
[ edited by ladyjewels2000 on Jul 21, 2005 04:47 AM ]
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LtRay
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posted on July 21, 2005 05:07:34 AM
I would keep the set together. It is not often that the holder, table and balls would be found together. IF you must split it, sell the balls and holder together!
I would do the bakelite test on one of the balls. Give us a pic of the table (corners, bottom) so we can see the construction and I could probably date the set a little better.
I'll be off most of the day but will check back in this evening.
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birgittaw
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posted on July 21, 2005 05:08:13 AM
That's very cool! No, I did not mean to split up the balls individually -- but I thought you asked about splitting up the table and the balls into two lots. Ball assembly in one lot, and table in one lot. Yes?
B/
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ladyjewels2000
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posted on July 21, 2005 08:23:21 AM
Sorry birgittaw, I misunderstood but there are many seller who split up ball sets too. I think I will split them as shipping the table is going to cost more and it may not sell as well. I think I'll list separate but offer free shipping for the billiard balls if they win the table too.
Thanks LtRay - any help is appreciated. I found 2 mini tables by Brunswick which were like this one but not exact. They were made in 1916 and 1928 I think so I am guessing that the time period on this one.
[ edited by ladyjewels2000 on Jul 21, 2005 08:26 AM ]
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birgittaw
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posted on July 21, 2005 08:28:44 AM
Looks like 1920's to me also. Wonderful piece!
Good luck!
B/
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ladyjewels2000
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posted on July 21, 2005 02:51:45 PM
Oh by the way LtRay - the first thing I did was test for Bakelite but I didn't get anything with the test.
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