posted on August 3, 2005 12:38:06 PM new
It grieves me that ebay has removed an auction of mine; when I based my listing on another (now closed) auction of the EXACT SAME ITEM. At present there are Active Auctions of the EXACT SAME ITEM - and these have NOT been removed by ebay. As a matter of record there were 731 (now closed auctions) & 287 ACTIVE AUCTIONS from the very same company - these are Mostly DVDs & VHS Videos of; EVERYBODY LOVES RAYMOND - IF these are indeed Unauthorized Videos -WHY DIDN'T EBAY REMOVE ALL OF THEM...My honest conclusion is that 'ebay' CATERS TO THE POWER SELLERS...& goes after the little guy and gal with much fewer auctions. 'EVERYBODY LOVES RAYMOND' has had and will continue to have a great number of Videos at auctions -a very popular show.
As we all know it takes a lot of work and effort to obtain and then list an auction - regardless of what items it is. Surely guidelines are very important & no one wants to put unauthorized items up for auction. The other side of this is that it is almost impossible to communicate with ebay, since they put so many hurdles in ones way. I hope my fellow sellers have not had this type of problem; and I thank you for reading my Ranting... (Bob)
Update: A few people think this may be a 'Bootleg Copy' - Not so: This was a Pure Original -Factory Sealed in Pristine Condition (I did open it to Scan the Images)
I thank the Power Seller for setting me on the right path saying she's not imune to the dictates of ebay. My anger got the best of me
If interested - look at #6419773143 (Exactly the Same Item that ebay Removed from me.)
Considered 'Unauthorized - Copyright Policy'...
[ edited by bros76 on Aug 3, 2005 04:19 PM ]
rant on i've seen it happen many times and had it happen to me once.
was selling a 1926 "end-of-day" plate made at an Indiana pottery and featuring a KKK white-robed rider set against a flaming orange background. now, i was very careful in what i put in the title and was selling the piece from an American history/social history standpoint. let's face it, the KKK is part of American history and black history whether we like it or not. i've heard that even Oprah collects the stuff.
so...a dealer sent me a low-ball offer and i declined. next thing i knew, the auction was canceled as "politically incorrect." at the same time, there were KKK items up for sale like a big, wicked-looking, still potentially lethal KNIFE! was it pulled? of course not...i think what happens is, some of the competition (or in my case, the miffed antiue dealer) turns a seller in.
posted on August 3, 2005 01:01:14 PM new
I've had 2 auctions removed in the last week. One was for keyword spamming (I used both the words "non-sports" and "nonsports" in the title), and the other was for the use of an image that another seller was also using at the same time (a simple image that should be public domain). I don't know if either was cancelled by ebay software or from a complaint.
My biggest gripe about cancelled listings is that ebay totally erases the listing, instead of simply ending it.
posted on August 3, 2005 01:40:41 PM new
So you are really upset that ebay pulled your auction for a bootleg copy of a video that is currently being sold on DVD? Good grief, if you are going bootleg video at least take a stab at modern technology and get a dvd recorder and a duplicator. Selling VHS of a show that has never been released in VHS is begging for trouble.
But seriously...for the record - there are certain "bootleg" videos that I have no problem with. A great example is Disney's Song of the South. Disney has sold the damn thing everywhere but in the US and refuses to release it here. It's a classic piece of film that is pretty much unavailable to US consumers (unless of course you have a PAL format vhs player) so it's not as if Disney is being robbed of sales but bootlegging something that is on the market or about to be released to market is something I think you are going to have a hard time justifying.
BTW - Of the 200 and some odd listing for Song of the Sonth currently listed on eBay. EIGHT of them might be originals (and from the pricing I have my doubts on some of those), the rest are all bootlegs.
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No, I'm saying -- I'm merely -- I'm saying what I'm saying. I don't know why I'm always having people say, are you trying to say -- you know what you can do if you want to know what I'm saying is listen to what I'm saying. What I'm saying is what I said ...
- Ann Coulter
[ edited by fenix03 on Aug 3, 2005 01:50 PM ]
posted on August 3, 2005 01:44:18 PM new
Lady - you can record a TV broadcast for personal use however they cannot be sold. It's copyright infringement.
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No, I'm saying -- I'm merely -- I'm saying what I'm saying. I don't know why I'm always having people say, are you trying to say -- you know what you can do if you want to know what I'm saying is listen to what I'm saying. What I'm saying is what I said ...
posted on August 3, 2005 01:50:44 PM new
I thank you for your reply: possibly I didn't make it clear - This was NOT a 'Bootleg' or 'Copy' of any kind - It was a Legitimate Brand NEW Video - FACTORY SEALED - until I opened it to SCAN the Images.
posted on August 3, 2005 01:54:24 PM new
Then you need to state that clearly in the listing. You absolutely can resell videos. Putting NIB in the title will also help.
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No, I'm saying -- I'm merely -- I'm saying what I'm saying. I don't know why I'm always having people say, are you trying to say -- you know what you can do if you want to know what I'm saying is listen to what I'm saying. What I'm saying is what I said ...
posted on August 3, 2005 02:16:38 PM new
I thought as long as it was advertised that way it was OK to sell copies. Yet another lesson I have learned here.
posted on August 3, 2005 02:39:57 PM new
I don't think being a Powerseller has anything to do with whether an auction is canceled or not. It's whether someone complains or they happen to catch you. I wish being a Powerseller made me immune to it, but it doesn't.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Caroline
posted on August 3, 2005 04:07:32 PM new
What a shame and you were so careful in the wording - hopefully it won't happen to you again.
A comment was made that my auction was a 'Bootleg' Copy which is not true - It was a Pure Original direct from the Factory -Sealed -until I opened to scan the Images...Was never viewed in Mint NEW Condition. It's the same as #6419773143 - which is from a Power Seller and it's still Active - yet they removed mine. Go Figure.
Thanks Very Much.
posted on August 3, 2005 04:45:24 PM new
the one thing you have to remember is that ebay does not just sit around and look thru actions to see what they should shut down (if they did there would not be 200 bootleg copies of SOTS right now ). Auctions are only shut down when a copyright holder contacts them (VERO violation) or a member (Usually a bad mannered competitor or humorless old biddy depending on the item) contacts them. When members contact them, for some reason they err on the side of the complaint rather than allowing the seller offer explination. It's a an iritating system and sometimes it flat out sucks but it's the bad that you take with the good of being able to sell in a marketplace with a huge established customer base for a few cents on the dollar.
Everytime you just want to wring the systems neck, just hink how much time, effort and money it would cost you to recreate the market. Suddenly it doesn't seem quite so evil.
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No, I'm saying -- I'm merely -- I'm saying what I'm saying. I don't know why I'm always having people say, are you trying to say -- you know what you can do if you want to know what I'm saying is listen to what I'm saying. What I'm saying is what I said ...
- Ann Coulter
[ edited by fenix03 on Aug 3, 2005 04:53 PM ]
i've seen it happen many times and had it happen to me once.
Caroline