posted on September 26, 2005 12:40:25 PM new
Some of you may recall the problems I was having with a newbie seller and the three auctions I won for car parts. I had also asked him for two other parts, took forever to get a reply.
Well, seems some other people didn't like his tardiness and this week he got slammed with a ton of neutral and negative feedback. He's barely been on eBay a month.
My dilema, I sent him a money order for my parts (the bulk of which was for the three parts I bought through his auctions, and $20 for an extra two parts not in the auction). Now, I'm not going to jump to conclusions, since he's slow I'll give him a two or three weeks and if I don't get the parts, what should/could I do?
- I have his contact information from before he got NARU'd
- Can the post office intercept for mail fraud (he didn't accept PayPal so I mailed a money order)
- Can eBay reimburse me for the money and shipping paid for the three items in the auctions?
- Am I just out of money if he doesn't send anything now, too bad so sad?
Now that his eBay account is cancelled, he might not think he's obligated to ship out the items, even if he gets the money. I'd rather have the parts than the money though, they're tough to come by
posted on September 26, 2005 12:50:49 PM new
I would contact the county attorney where he lives & file criminal charges for fraud, Also there is a chance to get him through the PO for mail fraud if he has cashed the Money Order. This is a federal offense & carries more weight than a local charge. Why wait, do it now. You don't owe him anything, he owes you.
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[ edited by sanmar on Sep 26, 2005 12:52 PM ]
posted on September 26, 2005 12:59:34 PM new
I was just thinking of giving him the benefit of the doubt, since he's a bit tardy in replying to emails, maybe he's a bit slow in shipping the items.
Is there a minimum time limit to wait before making a claim with either eBay or the post office, or any other method?
posted on September 26, 2005 01:26:43 PM new
Yes, maybe I'll give him a call tonight and just politely ask if he got my money order yet and if he's shipped my items.
Can eBay help out if the seller is NARU?
[ edited by powerwebmedia on Sep 26, 2005 01:27 PM ]
posted on September 26, 2005 02:08:35 PM new
There's a $75.00 deductible on Ebay's fraud protection program. Plus, they won't do anything about the extra parts except to warn you about transactions outside Ebay. Sanmar is correct. The U.S. Postal inspectors can paint a vivid picture of his future for him if they go after him for postal fraud. Call him first and give him a deadline for shipping the items to you (in a diplomatic way, of course).
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posted on September 26, 2005 02:27:37 PM new
You should call him and ask him when he intends to ship.
If he does not ship,file complaint with the post office.
I believe FTC said all mail orders should be shipped within 30 days .
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posted on September 26, 2005 03:01:09 PM new
Why on earth did you send him any money after you had talked with him? If I remember correctly, he pretty much told you that he wasn't going to ship them. At that time I said that it was a good thing that you didn't send him any money. Now after the good advice you received on that thread, you went ahead and sent him a money order?
You don't need advice. You need to kick yourself in the butt a couple of times for being a fool.
posted on September 26, 2005 04:29:09 PM new
If you'll check back on that thread, you'll see the update. He indeed confirmed that he had the parts and could sell me the other ones I needed. Plus, not wanting to be a deadbeat bidder (since he wasn't NARU then), I mailed him the money order.
Also, this is the first time in years I've sent out a money order. But when you're looking for rare items and they finally come up, you take it, whether or not they accept PayPal.
posted on September 26, 2005 04:42:19 PM new
"But I don't think he knows what he's doing. Brand new eBay account, mediocre ads, unreliable. Looks like lack of experience and lack of concern."
"For all he knew, the money order could be arriving in his mailbox any day now and he threw out my items for which he received a money order."
"My guess is that he either owns a junkyard or buys old cars dirt cheap and parts them out, and thought he'd give eBay a try. Then he got busy and couldn't be bothered."
"UPDATE: I finally heard back from the guy by email regarding the other parts. He said "they're all rusty, you wouldn't want them." Uh... YEAH, I "DO" want them, rusty or not, they're hard to come by. I can sand them down and repaint them. He's probably just too lazy to take them off."
"This is a newbie seller, and he doesn't seem to motivated to do much, just likes to do the easy stuff and get the money orders flooding in."
"- FYI: he finally emailed me back and said he'd be willing to sell me those other two parts, and asked me how much I'd pay for them. So, I offered him a more than fair price for them. Still waiting to hear back from him, but at least it would seem he did not scrap the car yet."
These are your OWN WORDS. You KNEW what this seller was like and yet you still sent him money.
I stand by what I said in my previous post. Kick yourself for being a fool.
posted on September 26, 2005 04:49:03 PM new
Ok, but at the time I sent the money order he was not NARU. I didn't want to risk negative feedback and being labelled a deadbeat bidder. True he was quite irresponsible, but then he cleared things up and I was put at ease. It was only at that point that I sent the money order.
But only time will tell. Maybe he'll keep the money and not send anything, or maybe he'll ship the items. Too bad I'm not psychic or I could have seen this would happen.
posted on September 26, 2005 05:00:16 PM new
power -- You got a bad vibe from him from the beginning. You KNEW deep down that this was a non-performing seller. Yet, you still sent him money. I would be VERY VERY surprised if you get those parts.
In the future, send a Bidpay payment and use your credit card. At least then you would have some recourse.
posted on September 26, 2005 05:12:12 PM new
I'm not sure he would have understood how BidPay works. This was likely his first venture online. True I had a bad vibe about him, but only after the auction was over. I've had a lot of good experiences with new buyers and sellers. Having said that, if it were possible to get the same parts from a more established seller I would have.
All we can do now is wait and see what happens. Although it's a bit of a hassle, it's good to know I can fall back on the post office. My hope is that he'll do the right thing and ship out parts for which he has received payment.
posted on September 26, 2005 06:33:51 PM new
I dont think you can file chargeback on a bidpay money order,as it is considered cash advance.
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