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 amber
 
posted on November 18, 2005 05:34:13 AM
I have always used H3, but I am trying H2. Is that too big? Also, I notice that a lot of people use all capitals. Good idea or not?
 
 cashinyourcloset
 
posted on November 18, 2005 06:44:17 AM
My personal opinion is that all caps looks miserable and is difficult to read. Ask yourself how much you enjoy reading emails sent to you with all caps. I don't let my kids shout in the house either

I use a medium font size (3).

 
 birgittaw
 
posted on November 18, 2005 07:44:34 AM
All caps is impossible to read, despite what many people seem to think. The equality of the block letters are tiresome to the eye and difficult to distinguish as opposed to ascenders and descenders where the strokes give the brain "clues."

I use a 12 point, probably an H3, sans serif face (as the messages on this board). Easier than say Times Roman which is what you see when you type a message on this forum. Most readers with poor eyesight on the internet will increase the font size on their monitor.

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 amber
 
posted on November 18, 2005 08:59:38 AM
Thanks for the help, I think I will go back to H3, and not change to capitals.

 
 Roadsmith
 
posted on November 18, 2005 09:44:11 AM
birgittaw: The type ace that shows up in these messages for me is not sans serif! I was told by a nerd-geek a long time ago that my ebay auction descriptions won't necessarily show up on a buyer's computer in the type face I'm producing them in. It was horrifying to me, because I don't like sans serif--but my son also showed me how my descriptions looked on his computer, and it was a type face I can't stand--something that looked like old-fashioned typewriter typing.
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 birgittaw
 
posted on November 18, 2005 10:11:47 AM
Roadsmith:

Interesting. It probably depends on your Windows or Mac versions or lack thereof. Seems XP has more of a true type font library? And it could depend on your browser settings too I suppose.

I used to do all my listings in either Baskerville or Garamond, but they both displayed on the small side (although I love both faces) so I switched to Verdana, an Helvetica type.

So just out of curiosity, what face do you see when you type a reply, and what appears on the message board when it posts?

That typewriter style is Courier, by the way. Yuk!

B/

 
 Roadsmith
 
posted on November 18, 2005 10:24:08 AM
Birgittaw: I have Windows XP. The typeface that shows in Vendio messages is Times Roman, which happens to be my all-time favorite.

Yes, Courier is the one I was trying to remember. Very odd and old-fashioned, lots of white space, and I don't like it!
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 fluffythewondercat
 
posted on November 18, 2005 10:40:38 AM



 
 sanmar
 
posted on November 18, 2005 10:46:10 AM
I use html +2, bold in dark blue on a light blue background. Take a look at #7360132403

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 MAH645
 
posted on November 18, 2005 10:46:13 AM
Some people wouldn't read it even if you had it tattooed on their but.
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 neglus
 
posted on November 18, 2005 11:06:24 AM
Shoot me! I use all caps and Vendio's "large" font in the Vendio HTML editor (comic sans size 5). I usually crank out 50+ listings a day and type poorly and don't have time to worry about changing case (I usually get the second letter cap as well as first). I don't think my listings are hard to read - maybe they just look ok on my pc with my settings and ARE hard to read elsewhere.
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 mikes4x4andtruckrepair
 
posted on November 18, 2005 04:14:19 PM
Yup, going to have to shoot me to. I use all cap's and X Large in Vendio HTML editor. I make the type large so it's easy for someone with poor eyesite to read. I've seen some listing's with type so small even I had trouble reading it. I use a solid brown back ground color with white type. See one of my ebay listing's auction number 8015183728.
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 birgittaw
 
posted on November 18, 2005 04:37:59 PM
Bang! Sorry, that's for Mikes4x4. From my poor eyes ... reverse type no less! Yikes. Hey, we're all different and if YOU like it, that's all that counts.

Neglus -- no shots here. Yours are actually pretty easy to read, probably because the type has a good bit of swivel to it, and looks airy while maintaining proper interword spacing. You're also centering and doing very short paragraphs which both help, along with the color changes.

Courier, by the way, was one of the few typefaces (if not the only) available when the printing industry went to phototypesetting as opposed to linotypes. Had to do with kerning, or the different width of indivual letters and the space they occupied.

B/



 
 classicrock000
 
posted on November 18, 2005 06:31:00 PM
Mike-to me,its too large-it seems like you're shouting,like one of those used car dealers you hear on the radio-and you know how irritating they are LOL-your other print beginning with "check out my other auctions" is too small.
Then again-thats just me-if other people look at it,they may have a different opinion.

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 classicrock000
 
posted on November 18, 2005 06:40:09 PM
sanmar-yours is easy to read.Have you expiermented with different colors? I only checked a couple of auctions and I assume they are all the same.If you try different colors and templates,it might draw more attention,or make them more interesting?


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 classicrock000
 
posted on November 18, 2005 06:42:44 PM
"I used to do all my listings in either Baskerville or Garamond"


I used to use Baskerville-but those damn dogs kept running across my screen,which was very distractive.



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 Roadsmith
 
posted on November 18, 2005 06:52:01 PM
Classic: Now that's funny! You and I may disagree politically, but sometimes I do appreciate your humor.
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 cblev65252
 
posted on November 18, 2005 07:13:55 PM
neglus

I like your template, but I can't stand Comic Sans. Every time my business partner wants to use it for a flyer I warn him not to. Not very professional, IMO. But, to each his own. For what you sell it does seem okay, though. So, don't take my comment as an insult. Just a personal preference.

I never use all caps. It is considered the Internet's form of shouting and I'm not normally a shouter. I also don't use a large font. I wear bi-focals and a 10 or 12pt Veranda is fine for my eyes. Ken's eyes are bad and he doesn't wear glasses. He can read mine fine, as well. With everything I write in my ad, a large font would make the page extremely long.

Cheryl

"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." - Martin Luther King, Jr.
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 neglus
 
posted on November 18, 2005 07:57:04 PM
I know comic sans might not seem professional - I certainly wouldn't use it in the "real" business world. But I don't feel like I have to impress anybody on ebay with my professionalism. Most of my clients are shopping in their jammies. I chose this script because I thought I could get away with the caps without "shouting".

You'd think by this time I would have learned to type well but alas - I use my own fingering (more like a pianist) and I guess I am too old to break the bad habits (I have quite a few of them).

I have had fun today making a Christmas template and decorating my store for Christmas!! I don't like Vendio's Christmas Templates (the snowfall one makes me dizzy) and this is is the first time I have actually taken the time to customize one! I also played around with creating Panoramic images in IRFAN with some of my postcards - very cool! Can you tell business is a little slow? LOL
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 cblev65252
 
posted on November 18, 2005 08:02:20 PM
neglus

I've been doing the same thing! My eyes are blurry from staring at the computer screen all night. Time to give them a rest.

I do like your templates.

"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." - Martin Luther King, Jr.
 
 classicrock000
 
posted on November 19, 2005 06:43:12 AM
"I wear bi-focals and a 10 or 12pt Veranda is fine for my eyes."


yes this is a common phenonom when you reach cheryls age.
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 neglus
 
posted on November 19, 2005 06:46:46 AM
Can you remember back when you were Cheryl's age Classic?

Thanks Cheryl...TTFN I'm off to BUY postcards (my favorite part of the biz!)
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 cblev65252
 
posted on November 19, 2005 01:03:39 PM
LOL. Good one, neglus. Have fun postcard buying! My favorite time is when my brother brings his treasures over and sells them to me for next to nothing. I offer him more, but he won't take it. He makes me some good money!

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 classicrock000
 
posted on November 19, 2005 01:56:01 PM
" Can you remember back when you were Cheryl's age Classic?"

Neglus, I cant even remember yesterday





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 Japerton
 
posted on November 19, 2005 02:18:53 PM
Don't make your words into images.

Not every image loads every time on every server or for every browser.

Learn how to use style sheets

Learn how to use browser emulations and see how your fonts show up.


 
 profe51
 
posted on November 19, 2005 06:29:58 PM
Charcoal, 18 point titles and 14 point text. What in the world is H3???...'thought it'uz one o'them new kinda SYouVee's....

oh wait, Win-doze....never mind...
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 tOMWiii
 
posted on November 19, 2005 06:33:22 PM
Fonts? We don't need no stinking fonts!




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 sanmar
 
posted on November 19, 2005 09:30:48 PM
Classic; I experimented several yrs ago & this seemeed to work the best. so I have stuck with it. As you say it is easy to read & to the point.

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 agitprop
 
posted on November 21, 2005 01:45:25 PM
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