getalife
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posted on November 28, 2005 12:53:02 PM
Could someone help me identify this gold pin. It is 1 3/4 inches long.
I bought it in cabinet filled with what is basically junk and costume jewelry. The fourth time I went through it I found this piece which I am assuming will pay for the whole cabinet.
Also, here is a neat site I found the other day to help identify small and miniature animal figurines. If you know of any neat sites for ID'ing anything how about postint them in this thread.
http://hrgallery8m.com/
Thanks for your help. Now here's hoping the first link works.
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on November 28, 2005 02:06:12 PM
If you're thinking you will identify the manufacturer's mark, lotsa luck. It could happen but I wouldn't count on it.
Your pin is basically worth the scrap value of 14k gold with a premium thrown in for design and period style.
Use lots of elegant descriptive words when you post it and be sure to post its weight in grams or some such. People will ask.
fLufF
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[ edited by fluffythewondercat on Nov 28, 2005 04:00 PM ]
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irked
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posted on November 28, 2005 05:23:05 PM
I think it is a wonderful looking vintage piece. I wish you lots of luck selling it and getting a decent price.
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Penny a pound, flesh to spare.
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LtRay
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posted on November 28, 2005 05:25:46 PM
I have to agree with Fluff. Not much market for these smaller pins and darn near impossible to identify that mark.
I would label it as Art Nuevo and lighten the pic a little. It is very hard to see on my laptop.
PS, love the website. Thanks for the link.
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on November 28, 2005 06:16:16 PM
The type of clasp often helps place a pin or brooch in the proper period. Can't see it in this picture, though. 14k argues against it being truly old, but that's not definitive proof.
The design looks stamped. If you can establish it is repoussed (or handworked in some way) that makes it a lot more interesting.
fLufF
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P.S. Art Nuevo? Isn't that the Spanish guy who does the cooking show on channel 64?
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cblev65252
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posted on November 28, 2005 06:30:26 PM
IMO, it's Victorian. I see oak leaves and acorns. Is that a flower in the middle? Fluffy, it looks like a c-clasp on my 'puter. But, you've proven me wrong before so . . . .
Cheryl
"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." - Martin Luther King, Jr.
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hwahwa
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posted on November 28, 2005 07:23:05 PM
It could be a repro.
who said it is 14K gold??
/ lets all stop whining !! /
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toasted36
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posted on November 28, 2005 07:39:08 PM
The picture is kinda dark Stop but its marked.
edited to add pretty pin
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getalife
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posted on November 28, 2005 08:54:48 PM
Here is a picture of the back and of the clasp. I tried to lighten the picture by using a white background.
I don't think the image is stamped as the petals of the flower would cast a shadow onto the center of the flower if lit directly overhead. I think it is of fairly high quality workmanship but I have the advantage of examining it in person. It weighs about 2 2/3 grams and I think it must be hollow inside, at least that is what I think the two holes on the back indicate.
Fluffy, I probably won't sell it on eBay until I identify the maker. I figure there is about $25.00 worth of gold in it and I like it a lot more than $25.00. When did 14K come into common use?
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Japerton
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posted on November 29, 2005 12:14:15 AM
I think it is gorgeous.
If it's stamped it won't have any "lip" that would prevent the stamp from pulling away from the shape. It's like mold making in caste clay or other casting. If there is anything to hook onto the mold, it won't come cleanly away.
I think someone did a very nice job with it.
will you email me when you list?
just my id here and add yahoo dot com at the end.
Thanks.
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LtRay
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posted on November 29, 2005 12:16:20 AM
"Art Nuevo? Isn't that the Spanish guy who does the cooking show on channel 64?"
Close Fluffy, its the mexican guy who does the velvet paintings 
Sorry about that, I was doing a quick browse and reply between naps and obviously was not conscious yet, lol.
Getalife, I love the pin and the artwork, it's just a size that doesn't seem to be popular right now. I have several similar ones in my jewelry box. Never get around to wearing them, but don't want to sell them for the going price.
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ladyjewels2000
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posted on November 29, 2005 03:31:42 AM
I vote Art Nouveau or Arts & Craft (just about the same time period)- if it was Victorian the pin point would stick out pass the end of the brooch.
I will see if the mark is in any of my jewelry books.
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hwahwa
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posted on November 29, 2005 06:39:30 AM
all you have to do is to walk into any jewelry shop,they can tell you if it were 14k gold.
back in old days,most pieces are 10k
/ lets all stop whining !! /
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ladyjewels2000
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posted on November 29, 2005 10:38:29 AM
Wouldn't you know it - the best book I have on antique jewelry is no where to be found!!!
No luck in my other books either.
Don't list it until you can find out the maker if you can hold off. That could make the difference between $25 or $125
Meanwhile I'll keep looking and maybe someone will come along with a good website for antique gold marks??
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