neglus
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posted on December 5, 2005 05:01:56 AM new
I just did an advanced search of "xbox 360 picture of" in titles and description and came up with an active one with bids:
http://tinyurl.com/948ze
WHY CAN'T EBAY DO THE SAME THING???
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http://stores.ebay.com/Moody-Mommys-Marvelous-Postcards?refid=store
[ edited by neglus on Dec 6, 2005 05:21 AM ]
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neglus
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posted on December 5, 2005 05:20:05 AM new
Gotta hope the low FB buyer is really a white knight with a throw away id.
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crossroadstrader
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posted on December 5, 2005 10:46:50 AM new
I have heard some sellers had to promise their first born child to be able to list an Xbox 360 (along with showing verifiable receipts that they actually had one for sale). I think I read it in Toben's thread on here. You know Ebay has to know there will be scum like this out there. I would think on items that there is a big feeding frenzy on ,that they would monitor them more closely. I for one would love to buy a premium 360 system, but can't find enough trust in Ebay and sellers to purchase it there. This can't possibly help Ebay draw new buyers, or strengthen trust in existing buyers to help the bottom line. I'm with you neglus, why can't they stop it?
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MAH645
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posted on December 5, 2005 11:52:13 AM new
Shows you people don't read the auctions.
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neglus
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posted on December 5, 2005 11:56:45 AM new
THis same seller is selling a wholesale LIST of where to get an xbox 360 and he even is selling a REAL xbox (or it looks like he is selling a real one anyway) - he even talks about scammers in his REAL auction! What a scumbag!
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crossroadstrader
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posted on December 5, 2005 01:15:17 PM new
Whether the buyer reads the description or not does not make this type of thing fair to anyone
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deur1
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posted on December 5, 2005 02:07:34 PM new
It is true people are getting more and more credulous.They simply do not read, they more or less bid by looking at the pictures.
However,this type of auction is unethical.It can certainly be argued that it does directly imply or at least indirectly implies that a xbox is being sold.
It does not live up to eBays self proclaimed creed -- all people are basically good
JMOP
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dadofstickboy
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posted on December 5, 2005 07:15:12 PM new
deur1:
It clearly states in the auction that they are bidding on a picture.
How can anyone be dumb enough to bid that kind of money on a pic of something,anything.
Magazine advertisements must offer an awful lot of entertainment to some people!
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neglus
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posted on December 5, 2005 07:22:52 PM new
Ebay should have a rule that the item for sale has to be listed in a certain minimum sized font or at least in the same size as the rest of the listing...I could barely read it and I was looking for it. The "picture" in the title could mean that a picture is contained in the listing.
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deur1
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posted on December 5, 2005 07:36:37 PM new
dadofstickboy --that was as I stated my opinion but sad to say, there are people that dumb!
I deal with people with high school and even college educations, that cannot or are just too lazy to read and comprehend a simple statement.
Maybe there should be a entry exam for bidders on eBay. A readers comprehension test.
But no matter how its tossed around this seller is a scumball or scumbag!
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toasted36
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posted on December 5, 2005 07:46:58 PM new
heres 2 up and running now that are just pictures...1 is in digital art ...the other is listed in game systems. Sad to think someone may bid on these
http://cgi.ebay.com/Microsoft-Xbox-360-Great-Picture-FREE-SHIPPING_W0QQitemZ8240461664QQcategoryZ62054QQtcZphotoQQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/Xbox-360-Premium-Bundle-Package-picture-NR-READ-ALL_W0QQitemZ8240558993QQcategoryZ20118QQtcZphotoQQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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sparkz
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posted on December 5, 2005 07:49:35 PM new
In this instance, I think we have a bunch of inexperienced newbies who think they are bidding on a system. They may not be able to spot the hook as well as we can, but remember, most of us on this board were here to see the exact same or similar scams take place last year with the PS2's. Personally, I was expecting these scams to pop up with the new Xbox's. But whether they are inexperienced or dumb for not reading the descriptions is beside the point. This seller is comitting fraud with this listing. The AG in his state needs to be notified and he deserves to be arrested and prosecuted. How many potential newbie buyers will be turned away from Ebay when this and the others hit the papers? And during the peak of the selling season to boot.
A $75.00 solid state device will always blow first to protect a 25 cent fuse ~ Murphy's Law
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classicrock000
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posted on December 6, 2005 04:00:53 AM new
"Description (revised)
read description before bidding
Xbox 360 offers a wide range of multimedia features, letting you instantly stream digital media stored on your portable music player, digital camera, Windows® PC running Media Center, or any Microsoft® Windows® XP-based PC directly to your Xbox 360. Xbox 360 is the best way to:
* Enjoy music: Play all music from any of the popular CD music formats (CD-DA, CD-ROM, CD-ROM XA, CD-R, CD-RW, and CD-Extra), store up to 15,000 songs on the 20GB hard drive, and stream the music stored on your PC and portable music players.
* Browse images: Plug in your digital camera, portable storage device, or PC and instantly access your latest and greatest shots.
* Experience high-definition: Stream high-def movies and TV directly from your Media Center PC.
* Mix your media: Listen to your own music while you play games. Create a slideshow to your own songs and share it with friends via the best TV and speakers in the house. Or bring down the house by experimenting with the interactive visualizers built into every Xbox 360.
FREE, EXPRESS SHIPPING!
This auction is for a printed picture of a XBOX 360 game system, 2 controllers, and 3 games. you are bidding on a picture only. Please understand what you are bidding on before you bid."
Dad-I see your point in a way.HOWEVER read this auction.On the very top,which a lot of scammers do-it has a revision on the description.This is ALWAYS done AFTER they get numberous bids in the hundreds of dollars.How may people are going to go back to the auction read read the description AGAIN once they bid on it?? Once you read the auction and you decide you want to bid on it,theres no reason to go back and read the description again a couple of days later.
Now read the rest of the description-It gives a whole list of things the xbox can do-Now if you were just bidding on the picture,why do you need a description of what it does?? They put this in there to dupe people into thinking they are bidding on the xbox.Now who in hell would bid on a PICTURE of an xbox-WHO THE HELL WANTS THAT???????
These people are total scumbags-they should be executed and used for stem stell researh and do society some good instead of scamming people out their hard earned Christmas money.
AND IF YA COME BACK TOMORROW, "CLASSIC" WELL TELL YOU HOW HE REALLY FEELS.
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neglus
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posted on December 6, 2005 05:13:28 AM new
It just occured to me that I am doing the same thing as the scammers!!
Title:"Fantasy Motel Anaheim California CA by Disneyland 1950s"($5 BIN)
I got an ASQ : "How many nights stay are included in the auction?"
In a similar auction, someone thought I was selling the MOTEL for $5 (for a $5 BIN ????)!!!!
Postcard sellers HATE to waste 8 characters in the title for the word "postcard". I can only recall these two incidents in the thousands of motel postcards I have sold,ut I guess to those two people I was a scammer!!
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estatesalestuff
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posted on December 6, 2005 05:42:30 AM new
LOL neglus ... you should add to your descriptions,
"This auction is for a printed picture of a famous hotel. You are bidding on a picture only. Please understand what you are bidding on before you bid."
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pelorus
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posted on December 6, 2005 11:41:09 AM new
I would like to know if this type of auction is prohibited by ebay. If not, it should be.
BTW, I just sent a very nasty email to one of these sellers. Can that get me into trouble?
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tOMWiii
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posted on December 6, 2005 11:47:36 AM new
HOW nasty? (LOL!)!
"We look forward to hearing your vision, so we can more better do our job. That's what I'm telling you." —George W. Bush, Gulfport, Miss., Sept. 20, 2005
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neglus
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posted on December 6, 2005 12:08:44 PM new
They must not be allowed - the seller in my example is now NARU YAY!!!!!!!
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pelorus
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posted on December 6, 2005 12:25:32 PM new
Nasty enough that ebay rejected my first two attempts because I had asterisks and such in them.
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glassgrl
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posted on December 6, 2005 03:12:23 PM new
Can you revise an auction after it has bids?
I don't think so..........
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neglus
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posted on December 6, 2005 03:29:08 PM new
Nope you can just add to the description but you can't change title or description.
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glassgrl
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posted on December 6, 2005 04:54:33 PM new
from me:
"Ur a piece of sh#t scammer and U know it..........."
From the seller:
"It's not scamming, as NObody has realized the PICTURE is properly listed, it is listed in the ART section and last i checked, listing a digital picture in the art section WAS NOT against ebay policy. My description is in no way misleading. If people are dumb enough to drop 500 dollars on something that they havent even read the description for then they deserve to lose the money. It says its a picture in the title for christ sake."
LOL "The seller ended this listing early because of an error in the listing."
http://cgi.ebay.com/Xbox-360-Premium-Bundle-Package-picture-NR-READ-ALL_W0QQitemZ8240558993QQcategoryZ20118QQtcZphotoQQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
YAY and the other one is invalid. didn't anybody else turn them in?
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classicrock000
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posted on December 6, 2005 05:06:50 PM new
"Can you revise an auction after it has bids?"
" Nope you can just add to the description but you can't change title or description."
So lets say in the description he has
"this is a nice xbox"
then on the 6th day of a 7 day auction he adds
"this is a nice xbox..oh by the way,you're just bidding on a picture of the xbox."
again this will be after the bids are in the hundreds of dollars
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glassgrl
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posted on December 6, 2005 05:21:36 PM new
I really enjoyed this line in the auction:
"Buying this is a legal commitment. Make sure you understand that this is only a picture of an Xbox 360 Premium Package, and not an actual system. Serious bidders only please. If you do not pay, I will report you."
Think he'd like a PICTURE of a $500.00 bill?
http://pweb.netcom.com/~brlevine3/Specimen$500bill.jpg
Find me some more....I've got nothing else to do and a throw-away Ebay ID. It took all of 5 minutes to get them busted - after I saw it here all day long and nothing happened to the auctions.........
[ edited by glassgrl on Dec 6, 2005 05:25 PM ]
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glassgrl
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posted on December 6, 2005 05:33:13 PM new
0h wait - here's one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/XBOX-360-PREMIUM-PACKAGE-WHOLESALE-LIST_W0QQitemZ5644115322QQcategoryZ47103QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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classicrock000
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posted on December 6, 2005 05:34:03 PM new
lol yea I saw that too glasgrl..made me laugh what an idiot.Glad you're reporting these dirtbags.
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glassgrl
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posted on December 6, 2005 05:40:07 PM new
http://cgi.ebay.com/WOW-XBOX-360-SYSTEM-BRAND-NEW-IN-SEALED-BOX_W0QQitemZ8240837576QQcategoryZ62054QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
"You Are bidding on 1 BRAND NEW XBOX 360!!! New in the box!! Don't miss out on this deal because they are sold out every where!! I am starting it low!! Any questions please ask!! This will make a great Christmas gift for all ages!! Please ask questions at [email protected] Thanks and good luck!!
THINK CHRISTMAS!! IT IS COMMING UP REAL FAST!! I will not ship before christmas but I will try!! I have 100% feed backs!!! LOOK!!
* this is just the stock photo, pictures may vary!! *** This is out of stock, I am on a waiting list and hoping to get it before X-mas!!"
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glassgrl
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posted on December 6, 2005 05:55:14 PM new
I APOLOGIZE tom and ralphie about the "why didn't you just list a BIN now price?"
If you just type in xbox 360 picture of -receipt
and BIN you can weed out some of them. unfortunately if they already have bids.......
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glassgrl
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posted on December 6, 2005 06:21:16 PM new
well you have to admit they have BALLS....
"Hey, It is out of stock but I am on a waiting list!! Also they said that it should be before christmas or up to a week after!! CHECK OUT MY FEED BACKS BUDDY!!! I am a AWSOME SELLER!!! I will not stop the auction it states that in the auction, read!!! You have a thirty day window for pre order things read the rules!!!"
CHECK OUT MY FEED BACKS BUDDY!!!
oh so tempted to do the BIN and break that Power Seller perfect feedback (feed backs SIC) record......
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glassgrl
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posted on December 7, 2005 05:22:29 AM new
Yay got another one.......small-town-friend.....the one that was selling the $500 wholesale lists - had one bidder and one completed auction already. They must of pulled those too since I can't pull up any completed auctions of his.
I told the seller: with a "small town friend" like him we didn't need any enemies 
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