posted on January 15, 2006 03:12:15 PM
Just curious as to how many are now offering Auctionchex as a payment form on their eBay auctions? I just registered with Auctionchex but have not added them into my auctions yet..Waiting to hear from you all first...
posted on January 15, 2006 03:24:25 PM
I am waiting to hear how it is working for others (never was a pioneer )...ao... HOW IS IT WORKING??
I just used Vendio bulk reviser to add to the descriptions of my 6,000 store items...IT WORKED!! I guess Auctionchex could be added that way if one decided they were going to work out.
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posted on January 15, 2006 04:58:20 PM
Neglus,
Did you remove the word Cash from your listings? I manually removed that word over 3 week period back when Ebay first announced the removal of this little word.
I am also interested in Auctionchex as well and wanted to add it to my listings and had thought about Vendio's bulk reviser. Is it really simple to use. I am not a rocket scientist when it comes to computers and things, it will take me awhile to figure it out.
Mama
posted on January 15, 2006 05:10:04 PM
I have it on all of my UK auctions. Right now there seems to be a little confusion (although to be fair - those that seem to be confused are asking other questions that make me believe they might not be the brightest bulbs in the marque) but overall - going smoothly. During a short email exchange with Eddie he did mention that updates to make their site more idiot proof (my words, definately not his!!) are coming very soon. For now, I just went through the payment system myself and worked out step by step instructions for buyers that I send with their winning bidder notice.
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posted on January 15, 2006 05:34:31 PM
Thanks for the reminder to remove the word "cash" and "bank notes" from our eBay literature and listings.
As to Auctionchex - no need as we have UK and European bank accounts that are already bulging with pounds and euros thanks to our retirement contributors/eBay customers. (They also earn decent interest too.) Maybe it's time for another holiday in Greece?
posted on January 15, 2006 06:01:38 PM
Agit - Re: Greece - Send baklava and some good ouzo. Oh yeah - and leather sandles - I miss my old leather sandles. Until then - how about a box of chocolate covered Thorntons Toffee? I'm adicted and you just cannot buy it here.
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[ edited by fenix03 on Jan 15, 2006 06:03 PM ]
posted on January 16, 2006 09:56:27 AM
I'm suggesting it as a payment option to my bidders, if they ask for alternatives to sending checks or money orders in US funds. I've had a bit more than a 1/2 dozen use it so far. I haven't put it as an option in my listings yet. Anyone know if putting Auctionchex as an option would comply with eBay's new Safe Payment policy?
Also... fenix... could you post the step-by-step instructions you came up with to the board here? I'd love to pass it on to some of my bidders.
posted on January 20, 2006 10:26:38 AM
Currently awaiting word from an eBay forum moderator on permission to list them as an option given the new "Safe Payments" policy.
Since I promised an update, here's what was just posted:
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An update (but not really):
I pressed the T&S team again and this time they promised me an answer by sometime this morning (pacific time). I apologize for the delay, but hopefully we'll get this answered today. Thank you for your patience.
Rizal
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Wayne
Never explain -- Your friends do not need it and your enemies will not believe you anyway.
~ Elbert Hubbard
posted on January 20, 2006 04:22:51 PM
Forget about waiting for the cows to come home. A few of the international eBay forum pinks have already reported that MoneyBookers, AuctionChex, PayMate and other payments are permitted (though not yet included in the 'Safe Payment' policy).
Apparently financial ombudsmen in certain countries were alerted to eBay's attempt to monopolize the auction payment market, and eBay were duly warned off.
I'm convinced that eBay came up with the SafePaymentHooHaa in response to GreenCrap, & I applaud them for acting proactively it this case...
GreenCrap is a most distressing SCAM that has the potential to financially screw thousands of suckers out there in Sucker~MLM Land...
There are a few "payment processors" that SHOULDN'T be allowed to play in feeBay's yard (StormPay & e-Gold just to name two) merely due to their extensive use in MLMs and other "fun" activities...
As David Steinberg used to say to his dog:
"Booga, booga, booga..."
posted on January 20, 2006 04:47:19 PM
I have a stupid question for the board.
What would Ebay do if instead of saying CASH, you stated that you accepted US legal tender(is that correct wording) and posted it on your listing page.
posted on January 20, 2006 04:55:50 PM
I know Tom & Ralphie what Ebay would do BUT don't you think that their server is set to look for the word CASH. I was just wondering if they are that sophisticated to look for other words. I was just curious.
posted on January 20, 2006 06:14:55 PM
I still have "Cash" in many of my listing's. It is still ok to put that you accept cash in person if someone is picking up a item. They just don't want you to request a buyer mail you a payment in cash. I provide a receipt of payment when someone picks up a item and pays cash and I get them to sign a receipt that they accepted the item.
Copied from ebay:
8. Cash
eBay recommends that you never pay for an item by sending cash because of the risks involved. While sellers may offer the option to pay with cash, they cannot require you to pay this way. If you suspect a seller may be trying to commit fraud by insisting on payment only by cash, please decline to use it and report the seller to eBay.
Risks:
* Not traceable.
* No way to prove payment was made.
* No protection against loss or theft in the mail.
* Not covered by the eBay Standard Purchase Protection Program.
Note they make no mention that a person not pay in cash "in person", just not to mail cash.
Just another white mouse in the ebay maze looking for some cheese. --- Mike
eBay wants to ensure that the marketplace offers an array of safe and convenient payment choices for its buyers. As described in our safe buying guide, eBay strongly encourages sellers to offer payments through PayPal – PayPal is not only convenient to use, but it also offers buyers and sellers industry leading protection against fraud, chargebacks and theft of financial data. Merchants with their own merchant credit card processing account, and those who use a third-party processor, may also offer their buyers the option of paying directly with a credit card online (including through third party checkout) or by phone.
From time to time, as new payment services arise, eBay will evaluate them to determine whether they may present trust and safety concerns and are appropriate for the marketplace. eBay will consider the following factors, among others, in making its determination:
Whether the payment model offers substantial financial, privacy and anti-fraud protection for buyers and sellers
Whether the payment model raises the potential for confusion among eBay users, or involves incentives that may present fraud concerns
Whether the payment model involves precious metals, or other non-cash (points, miles, minutes, coupons, discounts) as consideration
Whether the payment service has a substantial historical track record of providing safe and reliable financial and/or banking related services (new services without such a track record generally cannot be promoted on eBay)
The identity, background and other business interests of the payment service sponsor
The license/regulatory status of the payment provider in the countries where it provides payment services
Offline payment methods generally do not offer the same level of protection or convenience as online payments. Nonetheless, they may be appropriate for certain types of transactions and sellers may use listings to offer acceptance of most valid financial instruments including personal checks, cashier’s checks, money orders or COD.
Policy
Permitted on eBay.com: Sellers may offer to accept PayPal, credit cards including Mastercard/Visa /Amex/Discover, debit cards and bank electronic payments online for eBay purchases. Sellers may also offer to accept bank-to-bank transfers, often known as bank wire transfers or bank cash transfers. Sellers may accept COD (cash on delivery) or cash for in person transactions. Sellers may offer to accept payment through Certapay and Propay. Sellers may offer to accept personal checks, money orders, cashier’s checks, certified checks and other negotiable instruments.
Not permitted on eBay.com: Sellers may not solicit buyers to mail cash. Sellers may not ask buyers to send cash through instant cash transfer services (non-bank, point-to-point cash transfers) such as Western Union or Moneygram. Sellers may not ask buyers to pay with Stormpay. Finally, sellers may not request payment through online payment methods not specifically permitted in this policy.
Violations of this policy may result in a range of actions including:
Listing cancellation
Forfeit of eBay fees on cancelled listings
Listing cancellation
Limits on account privileges
Loss of PowerSeller status
Account suspension
This policy does not affect any payment method commonly offered on eBay today. However, there are some sellers who have listings offering to accept cash and Western Union instant cash transfer, and a few who offer other payment methods that are not permitted under this policy. To avoid disruption of these sellers’ business during the holiday shopping season, eBay will delay enforcement of this policy against existing payment methods until Jan 15, 2006. This policy will be localized for other eBay sites in the coming months.
Some Examples:
Under the above criteria, eBay does not permit sellers to solicit payment for eBay items through Greenzap.com, Stormpay or e-gold payments. Sellers may not solicit payment through “topping off” of a seller’s pre-paid credit or debit card.
As David Steinberg used to say to his dog:
"Booga, booga, booga..."
posted on January 22, 2006 06:42:04 AM
It sounds like all of you who have offered Auctionchex as a viable payment option for international buyers are happy That's good news, indeed! Collectively, I think sellers will make a big difference in this option, and hopefully, take away some of PayPal's monopoly. There's just too much of a risk to sellers who offer PayPal to International Buyers.
The bad news is that ebay have decided that auctionchex does apply under the new safe payments policy, no reasons given, no contact made, just a message from Rizal on ebays seller central forum :
The good news, Rizal has asked me to email him with my concerns, which I have, and he will pass them on to T&S.
What I don't understand is that we are not a payment system just a simple payment processor, and each method used for both ingoing and outgoing payments each comply with the new safe payments policy ?
posted on January 23, 2006 04:35:18 PM
I hope the reply comes faster than the first one. It took 18 days to hear back from a forum moderator who said they were in direct contact with Trust & Safety...
posted on January 23, 2006 04:47:53 PM
Hmmmmm... what bothers me is that eBay gave no reason, made no contact but just decided it didn't fall into the safe payments. Do I detect something amiss?
posted on January 23, 2006 04:59:01 PM
Actually, it's pretty simple to understand. Ebay's ultimate goal is to make Paypal the only acceptable form of payment on their site. It will be difficult to eliminate checks and money orders, but they have already eliminated cash plus any would be competitors to Paypal. They can't make a dime off of your service, but they can make a percentage off every Paypal payment. Paypal is pushing the envelope on a couple of fronts. The first is the regulatory issue, where they still are able to operate without oversight. The other is on the issue you brought up in your post, namely denying competitors access to their site. I suspect the time is rapidly approaching when the Justice Department will be examining the Ebay-Paypal relationship. Don't be surprised if the term "Sherman Anti-Trust Act" doesn't become a buzzword on the forums.
If Murphy's law is correct, everything East of the San Andreas Fault will slide into the Atlantic
posted on January 23, 2006 06:33:15 PM
Tom--I about fell out of my chair laughing at the cat. It almost looks like one of our cats. If I see him here with a beer bottle or a cigarette hanging out of it's mouth I'll know where he's been because I have proof.
