LtRay
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posted on January 27, 2006 07:38:19 AM new
Good news/ Bad NEws..
I've wanted this update forever, but I have also been waring of seeing it since a vendictive buyer could give you some serious headaches by over using the button on auctions. Hopefully Ebay has put some kind of safe guard in place to identify "reporting NAzis" and keep them under control!
New Policy
>>One of the most important ways we learn about listings that violate our policies is through reports from other Community members. You've told us that the process for reporting suspicious activity has been too cumbersome. So to make it easier for members to send us these reports, in the spring of 2006, every item page will have a "REPORT THIS ITEM" LINK at the bottom of the page. This link will bypass the Contact Us flow and take you to a list of possible reasons why a listing needs to be brought to our attention. It will save you valuable time and help us review the listing quickly. <<
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on January 27, 2006 07:46:59 AM new
About time they did make it easier, now if they actually take action.
Ron
"I'm so depressed. My doctor refused to write me a
prescription for Viagra. He said it would be like putting
a new flagpole on a condemned building."
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dacreson
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posted on January 27, 2006 08:04:03 AM new
Quickly to become the most abused button in cyberspace!! David
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mikes4x4andtruckrepair
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posted on January 27, 2006 08:40:11 AM new
Fine and dandy as long as ebay actually LOOKS at the auction before they cancel it.
They say your memory's the second thing to go, I just can't remember what the first thing is. 
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ladyjewels2000
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posted on January 27, 2006 08:50:54 AM new
I don't know - sounds like trouble to me???
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roadsmith
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posted on January 27, 2006 12:41:39 PM new
This sounds like HUGE trouble - for us sellers AND for eBay. It's only a matter of time before a seller files a suit against eBay for arbitrarily closing an auction, when identical ones are left up for sale. What's to stop one of the powersellers of Widget A from turning in all the competition?!!!! Dang.
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toolhound
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posted on January 27, 2006 12:45:29 PM new
Why should we do eBays work for them and why do we care what someone else is selling? I just don't get it why not just take care of our own auctions.
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mikes4x4andtruckrepair
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posted on January 27, 2006 01:57:21 PM new
toolhound - I on occasion report auctions. I agree that 99% of what ebay has restrictions on is poppycock, but I do from time to time see items that with out a doubt should not be for sale on ebay. I have seen guns, ammunition, explosives, automatic knives, locksmith equipment and pornography (not in the mature audience section) and I have no problem reporting them. The rest I could care less about.
They say your memory's the second thing to go, I just can't remember what the first thing is. 
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toolhound
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posted on January 27, 2006 03:03:46 PM new
Guess I live in a different world. One of my Father's favorite sayings was "Keep your nose in your own back yard and you won't get it broken" and he enforced that.
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ebayvet
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posted on January 27, 2006 03:11:33 PM new
toolhound - That kind of thinking hurts people in real life. I know this is jus ebay, but there are certain things that you should not just keep your nose in your own back yard. I don't know about you, but if I know a child is being abused, I am DAMNED WELL not going to mind my own business.
As far as the ebay analogy, I would have no issue reporting a listing violation. People seem to have a lot of time on their hands, so there can be some abuse - Guess it depends on enforcement. I am pretty sure I don't have any listing violations in my own listings, but I continually see them and if they are my competition, I will report them
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cblev65252
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posted on January 27, 2006 04:21:56 PM new
The button is fine as long as it's not abused and we all know it will be. I've had listings dumped for no real reason. I've had to jump through hoops with eBay to get them reinstated. Some competitors will stop at nothing to shut your auctions down if only temporarily. And, I know that eBay does little if any looking at auctions that are reported.
Cheryl
"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." - Martin Luther King, Jr.
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sparkz
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posted on January 27, 2006 04:30:51 PM new
Wait till the kids get out of school this summer and have time on their hands to surf Ebay. At least it will cut down on the thrill bidding. The new game will be called "Nuke the auction" The person who can get 100 auctions shut down in the least amount of time wins. More fun than video games, and it's free, compliments of Ebay.
If Murphy's law is correct, everything East of the San Andreas Fault will slide into the Atlantic
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LtRay
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posted on January 27, 2006 04:34:47 PM new
That was my main concern Cheryl. Abuse.
It is nice to have the convenience of not having to go thru 10 Help pages to find the Report item page. But they may have made it a tad too easy. Now a disgruntled buyer might report all of your auctions and ebay could shut them down and take their sweet time investigating.
Aggravating at the least and could cause serious problems for people who rely on Ebay as their main income source.
. When your ship comes in.... make sure you are willing to unload it. .
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longtime1
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posted on January 27, 2006 05:03:45 PM new
I think on face value it's a good thing. The fact is it is too cumbersome to report a violating auction. This new tool seems like it will allow you to directly connect with the area already available on Ebay for reporting listing violations, rather than doing it through the site map, and then punching in manually the auction number.
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Any competitor that has it in for you already knows how to report you....so this to me is not a concern. I can see how it could make it easier for an Ebay naive distruntled buyer to flag your auctions. All in all it's probably a good thing, but let the final word be said after we see how Ebay deals with it.
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Thanks Mike
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roadsmith
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posted on January 27, 2006 05:04:17 PM new
Abuse--yes! Not to mention your disgruntled buyers taking revenge. This could be a real nightmare. I haven't looked at the eBay boards, but I'm betting there's talk over there, too, about potential abuse.
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agitprop
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posted on January 27, 2006 05:24:03 PM new
This "New" tool has been available on the Australian eBay site for over a year with no adverse effects to my knowledge. My experience is that the eBay Trust & Safety dept. do check for violations before consigning listings to the dustbin of history. I've reported numerous auctions through it and had about a 95% takedown success rate. Much quicker than going the usual VeRO notice route I would add. Works a treat on all those 'too good to be true' $1 BIN listings with $99 S&H from PRC.
Home of the best eBay auction fee & PayPal calculators: http://auctionfeecalculator.com
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LtRay
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posted on January 27, 2006 05:42:32 PM new
Congratulations Citizens!
You have now been official appointed Ebay Police. We know you will use you new power to serve the best interests of jurisprudence and will make your leader proud.

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ebayvet
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posted on January 27, 2006 05:50:51 PM new
Reporting listing violations has always been possible, just not as easy to do. The policy isn't being changed, they are just making the process easier!
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hwahwa
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posted on January 27, 2006 05:58:05 PM new
' $1 BIN listings with $99 S&H from PRC????'
I thought it is 1 cent with 15 dollars shipping??
/ lets all stop whining !! /
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sparkz
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posted on January 27, 2006 06:09:31 PM new
I'd venture to guess that 90% of the bidders on Ebay aren't aware that it's even possible to report an auction to Ebay, and of the 10% that do know, they probably don't have a clue on how to do it. That leaves a very few people that can spot an illegal auction and expend the effort to report it. Yet that small percentage of "Ebay cops" has probably affected most of the posters to this forum at one time or another. With this new policy, 100% of the people who view your auctions will know that it's a simple matter to report an auction for any reason they desire. Maybe I'm overly pessimistic, but this is one enhancement that is inviting abuse from crackpots and idiots such as those we discuss on the EO every night. This is one time I certainly hope I'm wrong.
If Murphy's law is correct, everything East of the San Andreas Fault will slide into the Atlantic
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blackjack21
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posted on January 27, 2006 10:58:26 PM new
This might be a good idea, if ebay checks their facts first.
[ edited by blackjack21 on Jan 27, 2006 11:34 PM ]
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toolhound
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posted on January 28, 2006 03:13:55 AM new
LOL come on ebayvet child abuse!!!!!! I thought this was about eBay listing violations. Someone charging a few dollars to much for shipping or listing something eBay has decided should not be listed. Kind of like ratting out the kid beside you in school for cheating on a test. I am sure plenty of people are lined up with star pinned on chest and finger waiting to hit that button. Just one more reason for people to go back to selling at shows and flea markets and one more reason eBay is filled with new junk that no one wants.
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mikes4x4andtruckrepair
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posted on January 28, 2006 08:02:50 AM new
toolhound - I still think it's a good idea as long as it's not abused (which it probably will be). I reported 2 pistols, 1 rifle, 2 taser guns and a UZI submachine gun conversion kit last night. Would you say these should have been allowed? Don't get me wrong, I'm not against guns, in fact I'm a gun nut with over 80 rifles and pistols in my house but ebay is NOT the place for them. When I buy and sell guns online I do it on gunbroker.com and not ebay.
On the flip side though I do tremor to think if as was stated before by sparkz happens. "Wait till the kids get out of school this summer and have time on their hands to surf Ebay. At least it will cut down on the thrill bidding. The new game will be called "Nuke the auction" The person who can get 100 auctions shut down in the least amount of time wins. More fun than video games, and it's free, compliments of Ebay."
Unfortunately we have to take the bad with the good.
They say your memory's the second thing to go, I just can't remember what the first thing is. 
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toolhound
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posted on January 28, 2006 11:54:54 AM new
If someone wants a gun for the wrong reasons my thinking is they are not going to wait to bid on one on eBay. There are 100s of places to buy guns from gun shows to newspaper advertisements and in most cases no ID is required to purchase one. When I first came to eBay guns were sold all the time and I do not remember any problems.
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mikes4x4andtruckrepair
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posted on January 28, 2006 02:51:27 PM new
True, but this makes ebay one less place a person can get a weapon for the wrong reason.
They say your memory's the second thing to go, I just can't remember what the first thing is. 
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