Damariscotta
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posted on January 29, 2006 04:29:56 AM
Front page article on buyers getting stung by fakes sold on eBay. A vintage jewelry dealer bought a large lot of collectible costume jewelry for a bargain price and was shocked, shocked I tell you, to find out is fake.
Plus the usual hash-over of the Vero, just-a-venue, etc.
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vintagepostcardsdotorg
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posted on January 29, 2006 06:27:47 AM
here's the link to it:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/29/technology/29ebay.html
i mostly fault the sellers but also somewhat the buyers who are looking for a "deal." as i've said before, you get what you pay for. if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
http://stores.ebay.com/postcards-postcards?refid=store
http://www.vintagepostcards.org
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glassgrl
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posted on January 29, 2006 07:08:52 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/29/technology/29ebay.html?hp&ex=1138597200&en=2d9fd6c2b6f37545&ei=5094&partner=homepage
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on January 29, 2006 07:16:11 AM
It will be interesting if Tiffany wins its case. Or eBay settles.
Ron
"I'm so depressed. My doctor refused to write me a
prescription for Viagra. He said it would be like putting
a new flagpole on a condemned building."
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ladyjewels2000
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posted on January 29, 2006 08:14:25 AM
Interesting article. I don't know how to weight in on this one. I don't like fakes either but I don't see how ebay can control it.
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cblev65252
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posted on January 29, 2006 09:14:21 AM
. . .is now being challenged by eBay users like Ms. Rogers who notify other unsuspecting buyers of fakes on the site.
I don't blame her, but isn't that auction interference? IMO, she should be contacting the seller. If it seems too good to be true, it is. How many times have we heard that saying? Buyer beware, another one. There are just some things you don't buy on eBay. An Oriental antique from a man in China is one. I wouldn't touch anything purported to be an antique coming out of China and I wouldn't think that a genuine Weiss rhinestone butterfly brooch would start at $9.99 or sell for $30 either. Just common sense.
Cheryl
"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." - Martin Luther King, Jr.
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on January 29, 2006 09:19:13 AM
Cheryl how many times has a person come on here and bragged about what a great deal they got because the seller didn't know what it was or listed it wrong.
It is human nature to want the best deal you can get. Scammers like the one taking advantage on eBay know this and in all it hurts everyone. Maybe this is why there is a "report this auction" button being put in place. And the article is right, is is more rampant than what eBay says it is.
I hope eBay loses the case and they have to do something.
Ron
"I'm so depressed. My doctor refused to write me a
prescription for Viagra. He said it would be like putting
a new flagpole on a condemned building."
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on January 29, 2006 09:30:48 AM
From time to time I have sold off pieces of my Trifari crown jewelry, that is to say the actual sterling silver/vermeil large and small crowns. I have started them at 99 cents. Yes, they are genuine, acquired years ago.
I can't imagine what starting price would have to do with the authenticity or not of an item.
I have the hard-to-find matching earrings for the crowns that I would like to sell, but the market is so depressed there's just no point.
fLufF
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mcjane
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posted on January 29, 2006 09:54:44 AM
The seller that is selling the "Weiss Brooch With Lots of Sparkle & Shine" has given it that old disclaimer that she is no expert. She also has made her auctions private.
"This is a private listing. Your identity will not be disclosed to anyone except the seller. If you are already bidding on this item, view your bidder status."
If that doesn't send a fraud warning I don't know what would.
I wonder if she's aware of the newspaper article.
http://cgi.ebay.com/beautiful-weiss-brooch-with-lots-of-sparkle-and-shine_W0QQitemZ5081374536QQcategoryZ11007QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[ edited by mcjane on Jan 29, 2006 10:15 AM ]
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Damariscotta
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posted on January 29, 2006 10:23:05 AM
What we see here is what has been going on long before on-line auctions. People get greedy and ignore the warning signs. Like all commerce, the internet just allows them to do things (even stupid things) even faster.
Nobody knows what a court might decide on any given day, but I think eBay would have a good argument, that based on the number of sellers/transactions, they are taking reasonable steps. They have to walk a fine line - just look at posters here who claim their auctions were unfairly ended.
I wish eBay would do something too, only because it makes legitimate sellers suffer when these stories come out. But, be careful what you wish for. One eBay solution may be to require sellers to post a bond or credit card, or move even faster to eliminate small sellers.
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cashinyourcloset
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posted on January 29, 2006 12:17:13 PM
FWIW, I sent a letter to the editor of the Times along the lines of Fluffy's comments (I didn't steal them; we just happen to agree).
Funny how a representative of a company that charges more for higher opening bids would indicate that a low opening bid is a "tell" for fake items. A low BIN usually is (show me where you can get authentic Louis Vuitton for $25-$75).
Let's see if it gets published. It was tough shortening it to 150 words, and even after severe pruning, it was over the limit, but perhaps they'll run it... not that I expect they won't have loads of letters in reply to the article.
Claude
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tOMWiii
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posted on January 29, 2006 12:30:34 PM
Want a HEADACHE?
Read her ME page:
http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=animalbaby1
 "And then that little jerk Ralphie convinced all the sheep-herders to build a roller-skating rink!"
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agitprop
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posted on January 29, 2006 02:39:44 PM
Obligatory "I am not a fake! I am a human being!" comment 
Maybe sellers of fake/counterfeit items should be obliged to add "these fakes are real" in all their eBay listing?
"Fakes on eBay: what are YOU really buying? - update at 11pm"
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toasted36
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posted on January 30, 2006 08:42:29 AM
The seller has been told and it looks like its getting nasty.Heres a new listing .Interesting read.
http://tinyurl.com/8r9wf
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mikes4x4andtruckrepair
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posted on January 30, 2006 08:56:02 AM
Hmm, interesting listing. I guess that's one way to express your side of the story. Make a listing on ebay about it.
They say your memory's the second thing to go, I just can't remember what the first thing is. 
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on January 30, 2006 09:48:56 AM
Copy that auction if you want to re-read it. It violates several listing rules and will most likely be pulled soon.
fLufF
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toasted36
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posted on January 30, 2006 10:03:17 AM
already gone ....poof
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mikes4x4andtruckrepair
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posted on January 30, 2006 10:05:54 AM
It supprised me it lasted that long since it had peoples names in it.
They say your memory's the second thing to go, I just can't remember what the first thing is.
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on January 30, 2006 10:40:02 AM
What flabbergasts me is that eBay suspended me THREE TIMES on bogus charges.
Yet they allow this bimbo -- who clearly knows her pieces are fakes -- to keep selling?
What she did in the yanked posting is more than adequate grounds for suspension.
eBay: Why isn't she NARU?
fLufF
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[ edited by fluffythewondercat on Jan 30, 2006 10:41 AM ]
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mikes4x4andtruckrepair
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posted on January 30, 2006 10:48:00 AM
You must be on the secret ebay black list or your competition knows someone at ebay and paid them under the table to screw with you 
They say your memory's the second thing to go, I just can't remember what the first thing is.
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stonecold613
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posted on January 30, 2006 12:06:57 PM
NY Times notices eBay frauds
It took the NY Times this long to find fraud on Ebay?
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Many misleading tricks in 2006. The new Demomoron slogan.
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