posted on April 15, 2006 01:38:41 PM new
I had a radio for sale on ebay. It sold "buy it now". The guy paid via paypal and I shipped. Now three days later I get an email from ebay saying that the radio violated some FCC rule and that it had been removed and fees credited.
Why would they remove it is already sold?
Now I am wondering...are they going to take the payment from my paypal account associated with this sale?? I hope not because I already shipped. It is not scheduled for delivery via UPS until wed.
Thanks!
cd
[ edited by camodog on Apr 15, 2006 01:41 PM ]
posted on April 15, 2006 02:20:41 PM new
Was this a citizen's band radio that had been illegally modified, or an amateur band radio that had been modified to operate on CB frequencies? Or was it a receiver that was capable of receiving cellular or PCS frquencies? Those are the two most common reasons that will cause them to end an auction. If so, you should be happy they ended it and deleted it from their database before the FCC or FBI spotted it and came knocking on your door. They can end an auction anytime, either during the auction or a month after it ends. It just depends on when it comes to their attention.
If Murphy's law is correct, everything East of the San Andreas Fault will slide into the Atlantic
posted on April 15, 2006 03:03:22 PM new
it is made by galaxy and it is sold on their website. Yes the buyer has paid and yes I have already shipped. I am worried paypal will now take his payment.
Some just like it have sold on ebay. My main concern is that paypal will take his payment. If I click on the link to the auction via the payment it shows it as an invalid auction.
[ edited by camodog on Apr 15, 2006 03:06 PM ]
posted on April 15, 2006 06:50:16 PM new
'If I click on the link to the auction via the payment it shows it as an invalid auction.'
OPPs guess I am wrong. Sorry.
This one is one of a kind. Make sure you are not hacked. (Check other listings)
posted on April 15, 2006 06:58:23 PM new
It's not a f*cking spoof. Welcome to paranoia central, where common sense is thrown out the window and evil is the first assumption of all....
Hey guys... just because you have not seen something before does not mean it's a spoof.
Camo....
Items get reported all the time that ebay does not get around to "closing" until the actual auction is already ended. I've had it happen on items I have sold and on itemsI have purchased.
Celebrate - you got a freebie It happens sometimes. They are not going to remove the payment form your account. You are good to go.
Just don't do it again.
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posted on April 15, 2006 10:38:39 PM new If I click on the link to the auction via the payment it shows it as an invalid auction.
If I have said the once, I have said it 100 times. NEVER, EVER check your PayPal account through Ebay. Always go directly to your PayPal account via the PayPal website. It is simply way too risky to rely on eBay's site.
As far as the payment being taken away. Ebay cannot do that. Only your customer can initiate the chargeback and from the sounds of it, they have not. Personally, I would withdraw the funds asap and put them in the bank.
posted on April 16, 2006 04:40:00 AM new
Ralphie broadcasts: "Breaker!Breaker! Camodoggy! FYI~feeBay prohibits:"
Low power radio transmitting devices and related equipment:
Devices that transmit radio signals on the AM or FM bands are regulated by the FCC. This includes restrictions on the range of such devices. On FM frequencies, these low power devices are limited to an effective service range of approximately 35 to 100 feet (11-to-30 meters). On the AM broadcast band, these devices are limited to an effective service range of approximately 200-to-250 feet (61 to 76 meters). eBay does not permit the listing of devices that claim or suggest a more extensive range, as such items may violate these regulations.
Extended coverage high frequency transceivers:
Equipment that is intended to operate in various radio services in the high frequency radio spectrum, including "10-Meter" Amateur Radio Service (ARS) equipment, is lawful and may be sold. However, members may not list high frequency transceivers that are designed to operate on frequencies outside of the ARS bands if it has not been issued a grant of equipment authorization for the radio service(s) in which the transmitter is capable of operating. Operation of this equipment causes interference to the authorized users of frequency bands allocated to other radio services such as the Private Land Mobile Radio Services, Maritime Services, Auxiliary Broadcast Services, International Broadcasting Services, the Citizens Band Radio Service, and the U.S. Government.
CB amplifiers:
The FCC does not permit the use of power amplifiers with Citizens Band radios. Therefore, eBay prohibits any listings of the following:
Amplifiers specified for use on the 11 Meter band
Amplifiers designed for use in frequencies 24 MHz to 35MHz
Amplifiers posted within the CB category
CB Radios that are amplified to exceed 4 Watts using the AM Settings or 12 Watts using the SSB settings
posted on April 16, 2006 07:28:36 AM new
Stone - I think you misread what Camo said. He did not go to PayPal via eBay. He went to eBay via PayPal. The PayPal payment has a hyperlink to the ebay auction.
Camo - the reason they wll shut an auction down, even if it has already closed been paid for etc, is so that there is a "record" of it. They may not be able to catch you in the act of selling a restricted item but by shutting it down even after it closes, they have it on the record that you have so that if you were to sell something like that again, they can see that you have done it in the past and that they have warned you.
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posted on April 16, 2006 09:24:48 AM new
Camo...After a quick glance at the Galaxy site, I saw at least 4 radios that were nothing more than thinly disguised ARS radios that were designed to be converted to the Citizens Radio Service. Their tech help page even gives the instructions for doing this. It would result in an overpowered CB rig with a VFO and no type acceptance. I would stay away from that garbage Galaxy imports. It could lead to major ($$$) problems with the Federales. Your Paypal payment is chicken feed compared to what it could potentially cost. Be very thankful Ebay deleted that auction from public view.
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posted on April 16, 2006 10:53:21 AM new
I've had a few instances where ebay cancelled auctions after they ended, paid for, shipped, etc.
One was for a display cabinet that had a company logo on it. I didn't know it was a Vero banned item. Paypal didn't do anything about the payment.
The second item was actually an interesting situation. It was for a set of noise-eliminating headphones. The company that manufacturered the item used Vero to cancel legitimate auctions claiming their product was protected by patent laws. The funny thing is that just about everything any of us sell on ebay is protected by patent laws, but there are no laws against reselling patented items. The company was trying to block people from selling their product. Though the headphones sold, were paid for and shipped, I still emailed ebay about it, and they agreed with me. A company cannot block us from selling legitimate products because they don't want us from doing so. There are no laws against it. Again, paypal didn't do a chargeback.
The moral of the story is, that Paypal will more than likely not reverse the payment.
And to counter the idea that selling a radio that can be modified to be illegal... There are many things on the open market that can be easily modified to become illegal. They don't ban shotguns because they can be sawed off, or coke cans because a drug addict can use it to smoke crack.
posted on April 16, 2006 06:16:18 PM new
ya...i contacted PP and they said they would not touch the $$ unless something was initiated by the buyer. Thanks
It happens sometimes. They are not going to remove the payment form your account. You are good to go.