neglus
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posted on April 20, 2006 06:42:10 AM new
This is a first...got an email from a user (looks like a buyer only) who says he is unable to watch one of my store items and since it ends in a day, could I relist it with a new number so he can WATCH it?? ROFL! WHY NOT BUY IT???? I don't get it (of course I am going to relist it just for the heck of it).
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stonecold613
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posted on April 20, 2006 09:53:19 AM new
The exact reason why the watch system is bad for sellers. But Ebay will keep it, why? Because they like things that hurt sellers.
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fenix03
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posted on April 20, 2006 10:26:19 AM new
Not true Stone and I will give you an example.
There is a certain product that I love but cannot find here in Colorado. A couple weeks ago it came up as a result on my favorite searches but I was not able to buy so I put it on my watch list. Today I was going thru the list, found it and bought a few from the seller.
Had I not put her on the watch list, I would not have run across it today and the seller would not have just made $100 sale.
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stonecold613
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posted on April 20, 2006 10:45:15 AM new
I would not have run across it today and the seller would not have just made $100 sale
You are assuming that no one else would have bid. Without a watch system, others would be bidding instead of watching, so the likelyhood of there being no bids on that item would have been much lower.
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photosensitive
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posted on April 20, 2006 12:06:09 PM new
Hooray for the watch list! Before it came along I had already learned not to find items for my competition or watch the nibblers creep up on my proxie. Snipe is the only sensible way to bid. There was a time when every other thread on this board was an hysterical rant against the evil of sniping. Glad to say that era has passed.
Before the watch list I would make a bookmark for the auction but I was much more likely to forget or lose sight of it than I do with the watch list. My home page when I boot up is the watch list so I remember to check if I already have the item, research the price, show it to my husband, and do the all the things that will get me to bid my max. Without the watch list the sellers would not have my snipe to raise the price at the end of the auction when it counts.
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fenix03
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posted on April 20, 2006 12:30:04 PM new
Stone
It is a store item. That's what this thread is about, people that "watch" store items. People either buy them or they don't.
I made the purchase today because I ran across the item on my watch list. Had I not had it on my watch list, I would not have made a purchase today and when I did decide to go ahead and make the purchase, I would have done a search and possibly bought from a different seller.
Do you honestly think that the seller with an additional $100 in her PayPal account right now is complaining about the evil of watch lists?
I realize that some sellers don't want people to think about their items. they sell the virtual equivalent of Point of Purchase merch that is more of an impulse than an "intellectual" pourchase. For those people, the last thing they want customers to do is "think about it". I just don't really think that others should be punished because some sellers don't carry merchandise they consider worthy of time & consideration. 
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sthoemke
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posted on April 20, 2006 12:34:35 PM new
I agree with stonecold. ebay was much better before they had the watchlist feature. Back in the old days, you would get more bids and more bids earlier.
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fenix03
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posted on April 20, 2006 01:08:33 PM new
Back in the old days there were a third as many items, of course you got more bids.
The trick is to learn to change with the times, not to try to make time stand still.
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Libra63
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posted on April 20, 2006 03:16:03 PM new
I haven't quite decided if I like the watch list. I think it is good for people like you fenix but not for me as a seller. I find watchers but I get no bids until the end. I then think the 7 day auction is a farce. It's a waste of a week. Why not do a 3 day auction and hope that the watchers will bid. I honestly don't think that extending that 3 day to 7 days is going to make much difference in the amount of bidders. The 3 day makes the bidder hurry and decide. I think this is the first time in quite a while I had a bidder 10 minutes into a auction, but that person didn't win the bid. I only had 3 bids two from the original bidder and the one that won, but I had 5 watchers on it.
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agitprop
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posted on April 20, 2006 04:17:49 PM new
You have to question the sanity of someone who wants to "watch" a store item. Would they pop down to their local WalMart to stare at a box all day? "Watch" an item if you intend to follow it so you can see how much it realised (so you'll know how much yours is worth, or conversely how much you'll have to pay to buy a similar one), or you want to bid on/buy it.
Or are they like Chancy and "like to watch"?
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fenix03
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posted on April 20, 2006 04:55:09 PM new
Agit - are you telling me you have never heard of Window Shopping?
Of course peole go to stores just to l.ook around.
They may see something they like but can't afford at the time so they keep it in the back of their mind until they can afford to buy it. Only difference between that and a watcher is that it's easier too remember a store name than an ebay sellers name so ebay gave them a memory helper by way of the "watch this item" button.
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glassgrl
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posted on April 20, 2006 05:48:41 PM new
what's a peole?
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agitprop
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posted on April 20, 2006 07:11:00 PM new
peole plural form of peon; as in I'm a peon of eBay
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MAH645
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posted on April 21, 2006 09:06:35 AM new
Maybe the same reason some old bat stands in the middle of an isle of a store and stares at a can of pork and beans for ten minutes,and then don't buy them.
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stonecold613
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posted on April 21, 2006 09:07:17 PM new
That's what this thread is about, people that "watch" store items. People either buy them or they don't.
Which proves my point exactly. Store items are fixed price. There is no valid reason to have a watch on a fixed price item. You either buy it or don't. Watching store items only hurts that seller. And 99% of those watchers, you can bet are other sellers tracking their competition. The Watch system must go.
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fenix03
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posted on April 21, 2006 10:04:13 PM new
You seem to have conveniently forgotten that can or will buy something the first time they see it. It may be something they want for themselves but cannot afford at the time, it may be something for someone else and they want to make sure they other person wants it, is that size, is still into that type of item, etc. Just because YOU can't think of a reason does not mean that they do not exist or that they are not valid.
Why are you so against people having the opportunity to think about, check out or consider your items? Are you afraid they won't stand up to the scrutiny?
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pixiamom
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posted on April 22, 2006 12:35:41 AM new
I too am baffled by the number of watchers on my store listings. OTOH I shopped today for new decor for my 10 year old's room and found myself putting a number of things on my watch list for his later review. There ARE valid reasons for putting store items on a watch list.
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twig125silver
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posted on April 22, 2006 08:58:54 AM new
I use the watch feature for both auction and store items. If I am bidding on an auction I look through their store. In the store there may be a few things that catch my eye. If I win the auction, I may purchase some of these things, if they combine shipping. They are items I'd like, at a price I'd pay, but not with an added $6-$10 for shipping.
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photosensitive
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posted on April 22, 2006 09:46:03 AM new
A couple of days ago I got a reminder of why I should always put store items on watch before buying. I searched for an item I wanted and because there were only a few I got some store items at the bottom. Noticed a related item I had been looking for at the top of the list so jumped in and bought it. Later I did a search of the store listings with a more refined search term and saw that there were lots of them that would have been a better buy that did not come up in the earlier search. Next time I will put the first one I find on hold and do more research.
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