posted on August 18, 2006 08:33:35 AM
For a long time I felt ebay should make it possible to display only the negative or neutral feedback without having to go through all feedback given. I stumbled across this link on an ebay discussion board. I don't know if this has been shared here before but here it is:
posted on August 18, 2006 09:52:51 AMFor a long time I felt ebay should make it possible to display only the negative or neutral feedback without having to go through all feedback given.
posted on August 18, 2006 10:07:36 AM
Mainly from a buyers prospective to see if there is a trend with the seller and negative feedback, what the feedbacks are for etc.
posted on August 18, 2006 10:37:57 AM
Fluff is wrong. I want to know how a seller handles negs. Even with your example there is enough to make judgement. It's not the number, but what happens with the number and how the seller responds. How about the seller who has 100,000 feedback with 1000 negs. That's still 99%, but not so good with the actual number of negs. I want to weed out the positives to see why the negs.
zepol58, that site has been posted here many times, but it was good timing for you to list it again. Here is a clickable link http://www.toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs
posted on August 18, 2006 10:40:35 AM
When any emotionally-disturbed OxyContin addict or lying sack of crap can say anything they like in a feedback, feedback is meaningless.
The only reason I can think of to view negs and neutrals only is the same reason why some people read the National Enquirer and other even wackier tabloids.
In other words (she said gently), your desire to do this says more about you than it does about any seller.
posted on August 18, 2006 10:44:57 AMI want to know how a seller handles negs.
You will never know in most cases. Even if the seller is the blabby type, 80 characters doesn't allow for much of a saga.
Plus, most of my negs I have never posted a response to. They're not worthy of a response.
So how are you going to know the ultimate outcome of those transactions?
One seller I know posts the story of each of his negs on his AboutMe page. I keep telling him to forget about it and concentrate on selling, but seems he can't. But other than sellers like that, seems you're out of luck.
posted on August 18, 2006 11:22:53 AM
I have to agree with Stone on this one...
As a buyer, I want to know if there are consistant problems with a 'new-to-me' seller. Usually the negs I find (on the items I purchase) are for slow shipping or poor packing. Slow shipping by the seller is not a major problem for me, but poor packing is! The fragile items I buy need to come from a responsible packer. If they do not, the hassle of getting my money back -- not to mention the return shipping costs -- are a major waste of time and $$$.
As a seller, I periodically check my strongest competition for weak spots revealed in their feedback. Knowing what problems other sellers, of my category, have dealt with keeps me aware (a better seller) and helps me avoid those problems -- AND their problem buyers.
I use toolhaus frequently, and am glad it is available to those of us who use it to our advantage.
posted on August 18, 2006 11:27:35 AM
I find it fascinating that small-time dabbler sellers can have such iron-clad opinions on feedback when they have never been exposed to a significant percentage of the eBay buying population.
Or in other words: Sell enough and over a long enough period of time and you will be visited by crackpots.
Not my opinion, fact. Check the feedback of any of the eBay Nortica 500.
posted on August 18, 2006 01:12:43 PMI find it fascinating that small-time dabbler sellers can have such iron-clad opinions on feedback when they have never been exposed to a significant percentage of the eBay buying population.
Interesting comment, Fluff... Or is it an assumption?
I've been an active buyer (and later a seller) on eBay since 1997. Like you, I've encountered my share of "crackpots" over the years -- on both eBay and forums. And, considering my age, I've met a good share of those 'different' people in the public domain, as well.
As for your "small-time dabbler sellers ... such iron-clad opinions" comment, it appears there are a few of us here, who have learned our way around eBay the hard way, who have formed a few firm opinions based on long and varied experience.
And...should you be looking up sellers with the pat1959 ID, please be aware that I am NOT that Pat on eBay. None of my buyer/seller IDs include my personal name.
Just thought you'd like to know...the facts.
Pat
Not Pat1959 on eBay
[ edited by pat1959 on Aug 18, 2006 01:53 PM ]
posted on August 18, 2006 01:34:07 PM
I have to agree with Fluff on this. I have 3075 + and 6-, but when I looked up my feedback on this site, it looked pretty dismal and I do not know whether I would trust myself. Most of them were retaliatory for nonpayment, or claim that an item was damaged when it left me as mint, but it gave me pause....... Better to have to look through tons of positives to find the negatives, it gives you perspective.
posted on August 18, 2006 02:00:30 PM
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"I want to know how a seller handles negs."
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"Mainly from a buyers prospective to see if there is a trend with the seller and negative feedback, what the feedbacks are for etc."
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"Sell enough and over a long enough period of time and you will be visited by crackpots."[[[yeap, my first was because i didnt honor paypal-feedback calls me a cheapskate.]
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RE-EDITED TO REMOVE MY PERSONAL OPINIONS.
having said that, view this url. who in the world would do business with lisa? HELL I DID,,,PLS NOTE JAN, 2005.
posted on August 18, 2006 03:42:23 PM
Small time dabbler, huh? Versus big time pro? Izzthatright?
Frankly. in all my years on eBay, the WORST service, packing, communication and merch I have experienced as a a buyer have consistently been from high feedback powersellers with large numbers of listings. Sometimes those hateful negs are actually not necessarily nasty retaliatory ones either. Who knew?
When I bid to buy, like Pat I do want to know if there are negative/neutral comments on packing practices in particular. Undisclosed damage comments rank up there too. If there is a slew of unfavorable comments with similar complaints, I tend to pass on a bid.
posted on August 18, 2006 05:51:14 PM
Well Well another feedback post.
For those who's hobby is to collect feedback this is important.
To sellers and buyer who are just selling and buying, feedback means nothing unless you like to jerk the seller around or if feedback is really weird like 97.5% or worse for sellers and say -2 for buyer.
Bigger things you need to look at, like use PP? Cost? Location? Special requirements? (Like no buyers from Nigeria)etc. Normal feed back is way overrated for normal sellers and buyer.
posted on August 18, 2006 08:16:39 PM
Here's a big seller who really gave the tool a workout! They have 89% FB ratio and yet pages and pages of bids on all their auctions - doesn't seem to phase buyers a bit.
He has "caveat emptor" at the top of all of his listings.
posted on August 18, 2006 09:26:23 PM
It is handy to see the negative feedback for a buyer or a seller when there is a problem- otherwise, I could care less. My cousin, who is a well-educated professional, thought it safe buying from a seller with 90+% feedback (he equated it with a scholastic A). Feedback , in my opinion, is way under-rated by buyers and way over-rated by sellers. Do your best and live with it.
posted on August 18, 2006 11:07:18 PM"I find it fascinating that small-time dabbler sellers can have such iron-clad opinions on feedback when they have never been exposed to a significant percentage of the eBay buying population."
I am wondering what you mean by this exactly. You do not need to be a professional big time seller to have a valid opinion from personal experience no matter if you sell 100 , 1000 or 10 items a week month or what ever. In my years on ebay I have had some real nut jobs to deal with and some super nice people too. Every selling experience on ebay is unique and can give you a good idea of the buying public on Ebay. Period! No matter if you sell a lot or a little you don't need to be the super seller to be the only valued opinion out here.
I have found many different sellers have varied opinions on the value of feedback, some value it highly others don't. This is well demonstrated on this board and everyone has right to that valued opinion. I believe the original poster of this thread was just trying to pass on information they thought was a valuable piece of help for those interested. Even though most of us have already visited this site in past present and will do so in future. So to ask Why is kinda redundant. And to find it fascinating how anyone can have an opinion unless you have sold that mega count of items is in a way knocking others opinions.
This will get me frowned (big time)at but my opinion of anyone who does not care one way or other that they get a negative is more telling to me about their business practice than the negative itself listed in bright red on the feedback page.
Well now that my tiny opinion ( fascinating one at that) is out there I visit toohaus ( learned of it at this board about 1.5 years ago) to check negatives of anyone I might want to buy from if it looks like it warrants a visit from looking at their feedback. Anyone who gets a lot of negatives especially in 1 week, month etc warrants a look-see from me IF there is no other item like I am wanting elsewhere.........
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