parkman
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posted on December 12, 2006 03:29:40 PM new
I bid on an auction for 3 dvds for an old tv show "you can't do that on television". The auction shows color pictures and doesn't say anything about the dvds being bootleg copies. I wanted these for my adult children who used to love this show. I received them today and they were all on dvd-r's with no names to indicate which volume was which and with 2 in the same case. I paid over 30.00 for these and am really ripped.I emailed the seller and here is his answer:
"I thought it was a common frustration among fans of the show that official dvd's did not exist & episodes were hard to find. Listings of official dvd's will often have some form of copyright information and a release date. On eBay if you ever have questions or inquiries into the item or auction you can always ask the seller questions before purchasing."
I have filed a dispute with paypal but do I have any recourse with copyright infrimgement (or ebay) since these were bootleg copies.
[ edited by parkman on Dec 12, 2006 03:30 PM ]
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parkman
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posted on December 12, 2006 04:09:33 PM new
Guess it doesn't matter..the seller refunded my money so I am happy (well not happy since I wanted those dvds) but at least I am not out any money.
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hwahwa
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posted on December 12, 2006 07:24:18 PM new
I dont think they can sell bootleg dvd on Ebay.
I bot one and complained to Paypal,seller refunded in full and then she was naru'd by Ebay.
Someone must have turned her in.
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classicrock000
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posted on December 12, 2006 07:24:42 PM new
First of all the seller isnt going to state these are bootlegs,because Ebay will probably yank it.You probably should have asked him before you bid on it.The seller emailed you and said offical dvds of this program dont exist-is this a fact?
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pixiamom
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posted on December 12, 2006 07:30:47 PM new
Bootlegged DVDs? You have been made whole, but you know what you should do. Let's try to keep eBay as clean as possible!
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profe51
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posted on December 12, 2006 08:00:11 PM new
Maybe you can copy them before you send them back.
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mcjane
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posted on December 12, 2006 08:46:51 PM new
Maybe he doesn't want them back since he refunded right away.
I don't think your supposed to return counterfeit items anyway.
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TheFamilyBiz
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posted on December 12, 2006 10:38:46 PM new
You could always forward them to the copyright owner along with the seller's contact info - to be helpful and keep your hands clean. Afterall, you currently have in your possession "stolen" goods.
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parkman
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posted on December 13, 2006 05:51:25 AM new
The seller states I should keep the dvds. I haven't tried them so hope they are what I bought (I would hate to give my children porn).
I didn't feel like I should have to ask if they were original because the auction shows colored pics and appears to be a new dvd. I would have asked if there were no pics. I don't know if original exist..he states not.
I won't report him unless he lists them again..right now he has nothing listed but if he does this again I will report him to ebay.
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ebayvet
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posted on December 13, 2006 11:04:27 AM new
That is the strategy of the bootleg sellers...If someone complains, refund and let them keep it. Think about it, the complaint level is low - I'll pull a figure out of thin air, 20%. They refund on that, are out a couple of blank dvd's and postage - Maybe $1. The ones that don't care of don't complain, they pay $30 for something that costs them nothing. It is very, very profitable. I know you got your money back, but not complaining is bad because it makes ebay a marketplace that keep eroding, removing buyer confidence. I rarely buy on ebay anymore because of the scams, and postage ripoffs...and I'm a powerseller!
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hwahwa
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posted on December 13, 2006 02:22:27 PM new
But those dvds dont play well,so how can anyone not complain and want to get their money back?
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sthoemke
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posted on December 13, 2006 04:12:59 PM new
I'm not familiar with the show, but is it possible it is in the public domain?
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