niel35
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posted on March 15, 2007 11:05:08 AM
Just got a notice from EBay confirming my listing of
Caterpillar Portable Skid Generator for $1,459.
and my listing fees are 198.00. What the hell???
I forwarded it to EBay Spoof
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NEGLUS
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posted on March 15, 2007 11:48:31 AM
Probably is a spoof, but check your "my ebay" to make sure your account has not been hijacked.
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http://stores.ebay.com/Moody-Mommys-Marvelous-Postcards?refid=store
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on March 15, 2007 01:15:22 PM
Your account has been hijacked. My husband watches generator auctions nightly. A whole bunch of them are shut down a few hours after they're listed. Poof! Gone.
fLufF
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LtRay
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posted on March 15, 2007 01:30:32 PM
You have not been hijacked. I am receiving the same stupid spoofs.
I should have known better than to list during a listing special! I am receiving these emails on an account that I rarely use.
Listed some auctions in the computer and cell phones categories and the spammers swarmed my mailbox.As well as the Generator spoof, the following spam came in through eBay ASQ 6 times on the computer listings.
Dear friend :
Welcome to our website: http://www.eureuo.com
We mainly sale the electrical product ,such as TV ,laptop ,cameras and so on .we can give you the best price and best service, all the items of us are original and brand new.
Hoping with your cooperation and long time
If you are interesting in our item ,please contact us.
Our website: http://www.eureuo.com
MSN/EMAILL: [email protected]
***Hey Eureuo, send 1000 for approval and I'll get back to you. Sincerely, Your Friend too ***
[ edited by LtRay on Mar 15, 2007 01:33 PM ]
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sthoemke
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posted on March 15, 2007 01:30:45 PM
If not a spoof, I'd request a new password ASAP.
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on March 15, 2007 01:35:56 PM
If the auction's been removed, it won't appear in My eBay.
Hopefully you would get some kind of notification from eBay, though.
fLufF
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niel35
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posted on March 15, 2007 02:35:28 PM
checked my ebay and no message re the listing there and no listings under my user ID.
Changed my password anyway. Guess I have to do it on PayPal too
thanks everyone
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niel35
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posted on March 15, 2007 02:39:07 PM
Doesn't my Ebay password have to agree with my Vendio password?
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NEGLUS
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posted on March 15, 2007 02:49:16 PM
not anymore - ebay uses "tokens" to let Vendio access our accounts.
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http://stores.ebay.com/Moody-Mommys-Marvelous-Postcards?refid=store
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niel35
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posted on March 15, 2007 03:39:24 PM
thanks Neglus - last time I had to make them agree
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NEGLUS
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posted on March 15, 2007 04:04:03 PM
It's probably time that you changed your password any way then LOL... you might want to make sure the generator listing fee doesn't appear on your bill while you're at it.
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http://stores.ebay.com/Moody-Mommys-Marvelous-Postcards?refid=store
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niel35
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posted on March 15, 2007 05:15:20 PM
I changed it neglus. will check about the gen fee
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niel35
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posted on March 16, 2007 04:49:08 AM
Yep - EBay says it was a spoof.
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birgittaw
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posted on March 16, 2007 05:12:24 AM
eBay ALWAYS says it's a spoof. The last time I got an odd email, they said it was a spoof. I checked the originating ISP, and it was an authentic eBay domain ... and whatever they were experimenting with (a relisted item notification) only showed up once or twice and haven't had one since.
Would one actually get a listing email from eBay in the case of a highjack, or would the highjacker change that email as well? Curious about that.
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hwahwa
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posted on March 16, 2007 06:54:14 AM
There is no such thing as authentic Ebay domain.
If you account has been hijacked,and the hijacker listed an item,you will get an email from EBay saying your listing has started,and you can look into your seller account and find Ebay has charged you a listing fee.
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Lets all stop whining !
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birgittaw
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posted on March 16, 2007 07:14:33 AM
Doing a search for the IP number in the header of any email will tell you who owns/adcministers the number. In the case I mentioned above, it was an eBay owned number.
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digitalbruce
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posted on March 16, 2007 09:08:51 AM
We get those same kind of emails on almost an hourly rate here. I just make sure MY EBAY page and our fees page match. At least once a week. We have only been highjacked once in past 10 years and that was because the new kid didn't know not to answer those emails.
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ST0NEC0LD613
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posted on March 18, 2007 07:48:23 PM
It's a spoof!! They haven't used generators in years. They are all Alternators now.
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toolhound
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posted on March 19, 2007 01:16:09 AM
Hey Stone, Alternators are on cars. A $1,459.00 Generator is for 110 and 220 volts.
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dadofstickboy
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posted on March 19, 2007 03:30:47 AM
Hey: Toolhound!
Stone is correct.
The alternator gets its name from the fact that it generates alternating current (AC). The old generators generated direct current (DC). Well the battery can't use alternating current so the alternator output is fed into what are called diodes, which convert the AC into DC. The alternator has a unique feature in that it is able to generate a relatively high voltage while the engine is at idle. The old generators needed to be running at a fast pace before they got up to 13 or 14 volts
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toolhound
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posted on March 20, 2007 01:14:12 AM
I live in Florida Dad & Stone believe me we use Generators to run our houses when we have no electricity. NOT ALTERNATORS. Alternators are what is on your car.
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dadofstickboy
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posted on March 20, 2007 10:08:14 AM
You must have the first house ever to run on DC current!
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ewora
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posted on March 20, 2007 10:27:29 AM
These are the kind of generator's we use up here. Description does say AC power.
Could it be a regional language thing...calling a generator an alternator? Kind of like couch and davenport?
" The GUARDIAN Ultra Source portable boasts the highest running watts in its class, 17,500 running watts and 26,250 surge watts. No other portable generator can offer you engine life and durability like the OHVI engine. THIS ITEM CANNOT BE RETURNED. THIS ITEM QUALIFIES FOR A $200 MANUFACTURERS REBATE VIA MAIL (VALID 9/20/06 THROUGH 10/31/06). SEE REBATE CENTER FOR DETAILS.
• 17,500 watts gasonline powered
• Portable unit with power to start a 5 ton A/C unit, includes transfer switch with 16 circuits protected
• 16 Gallon Fuel tank provides 10 hours of run time at half load
• Includes: pre-wired 50 amp manual transfer switch, 15 ft power cord, and outdoor connection box"
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twig125silver
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posted on March 21, 2007 05:16:41 AM
You say tomato, I say tomahto.....
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toolhound
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posted on March 21, 2007 05:52:39 AM
NO SMART GUY I DON'T HAVE THE "first house ever to run on DC current!"
Generators put out both AC & DC. Do a simple search on eBay for a home generator then try your home alternator.
Read about them when you do and you might learn something.
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ST0NEC0LD613
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posted on March 22, 2007 01:43:30 PM
Generators put out both AC & DC
Wrong. Generators are only capable of putting out DC current. And now where in the amounts you were describing. Just in the way you are describing them, it is clear you have no idea on how either works. It's best you leave it alone.
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toolhound
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posted on March 22, 2007 03:48:11 PM
So I guess you are right and all these sellers listing GENERATORS for sale on eBay are wrong.
YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT ONE THING I DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THEM BUT I KNOW FOR SURE THAT 1,000'S OF US IN FLORIDA ARE WITHOUT ELECTRIC WHEN IT STORMS AND ALL OF US RUN OUR HOUSES ON GENERATORS NOT ALTERNATORS. IF YOU GO TO HOME DEPOT AND TELL THEM YOU WANT A ALTERNATOR TO RUN YOUR HOUSE ON THEY WILL LAUGH AT YOU.
THERE ARE 100'S LIKE THESE FOR SALE ON EBAY HERE ARE 3 EXAMPLES.ALL LISTING THE AC OUTPUTS.
EXAMPLE #1 Item number: 330099492100
HONDA EX1000 GENERATOR Home Portable GAS POWERED NR
You are bidding on a used but in excellent working condition Honda EX1000 Power Generator. The unit shows lots of use with some scuffs and scratches. Pictures are of actual item. Specifications are as follows: Honda 97CC-2.5HP 4 stroke engine - Oil alert - Electronic ignition - Can be carried with one hand - Circuit breaker - Fuel meter(0.8gal or 3.8hrs - AC Output:120V 1000W MAX(8.3A) 900W (7.5A) - DC Output: 12V 100W (8.3A)
EXAMPLE #2 Item number: 230106123395
BEST FOR HOME BACKUP!!!!!
These generators are retailing for as high as $2600.00Electric start, very quiet 82-84 DB!
Electric (Battery not included) and Recoil Start Systems!!!
Has plug into generator battery charging cablefor charging all of your battery needs.
New in the box with one year warrentee!!!
Big Air Cleaner, Big Muffler!!!!
Automatic Voltage Regulator!!!!
Brushless!!!!
Big Fuel Tank, Diesel Consumption = 0.5 Gallon /hour!!!!
Runs for about 12 hours on a tank of gas!!
Rugged heavy duty protective frame!!!
2 large wheels for easy moving!
Fold down sturdy handles!
Great for RV, mobile home, or home backup!!!!
Air cooled 13.5hp OHV 4 stroke engine, no oil-gas mix needed!!!!
Low Oil Alarm System!!!!
AC Output: 110\220 V \ DC Output 12V
EXAMPLE #3 Item number: 130092844492
The XP8500 Features:
• Durable PowerMax brand 16.0 Hp, air cooled OHV engine
w/ low oil shutoff & electric start. (4 stroke motor)
• Heavy duty steel frame with four point fully isolated motor
mounts for smooth and quiet operation.
• Full power panel with oil warning light, key start switch, volt meter,
circuit breaker and power outlets.
• Wheel kit w front handle for easy transporting.
• (4) Fully protected 120V outlets & (1) 220V twist-lock outlet.
• 8 Hour run time.
• All steel 5.4 gal. fuel tank with ez-read gauge.
• Low oil shut-off protects engine.
• Super quiet muffler reduces engine noise.
• Idle control holds RPM at a constant level even under heavy
loads for fuel savings and noise reduction.
Specifications:
• Max AC Output: 8500 watts
• Rated AC Output: 7000 watts
• Current (120V/240VAC & 12VDC)
[ edited by toolhound on Mar 22, 2007 03:56 PM ]
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max40
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posted on March 22, 2007 05:01:19 PM
Both generators and alternators put out ac current. They rely on rectifier circuitry to convert ac to dc.
In the case of an automotive alternator it's done with a diode pack.
In the case of a home generator, the current remains ac, as all your home appliances are meant to run on ac. Home generators may be equipt with a dc output thru a rectifier and transformer for less than 120 volt power.
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PIXIAMOM
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posted on March 22, 2007 05:03:04 PM
Nobody is more ignorant of mechanical crap than I am, but my boss in 1980 calmly explained to me that what is usually referred to as a home generator is more accurately called a Gen-set (engine-generator set) because they have generators with attached engines which produce AC current. Of course, he advertised them as home generators - the name consumers knew.
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