posted on April 6, 2007 12:45:30 PM
My husband is attempting to install everything on my new computer, which has Windows Vista. He's having a problem WordPerfect to work; I use it all the time. Does anyone know if it's compatible with my new computer?? Anyone have problems with it?
Or any other problems with startup of this new thing?
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posted on April 6, 2007 01:54:07 PM
The problems with Windows Vista are too numerous to even mention. I'm avoiding it like the plague. You will find that a lot of the programs that worked just fine with XP will not work at all with Vista. WordPerfect is probably not at all compatible with Vista. With this new OS, it looks like MS is trying to make you purchase their products.
posted on April 6, 2007 03:16:37 PM
Word on the street (from computer techies) is that it's best to wait until Vista SP1 is released before even looking at using, let alone installing it.
posted on April 6, 2007 03:48:31 PM
We're at the point of no return and will keep slogging away on it. WordPerfect is finally working, as is my old Adobe PhotoDeluxe 4.0, so we're getting somewhere. But gee it's hard going.
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posted on April 6, 2007 06:36:01 PM
Our computer techs over here are saying dont touch, wait until new updated version comes out in probably 12 months. way too many flaws and problems. they say should never have been released yet. For the time being i am sticking to my XP.
posted on April 6, 2007 08:56:10 PM
Yikes, you all are scaring me. Everything is working okay now on the new computer with the exception of e-mail. We shall see!
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posted on April 6, 2007 10:52:41 PM
email not working now that would be a very big problem. I hear Wait also from my bro in law he works on PC and says it is a difficult program with lots of incompatibilities.
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posted on April 7, 2007 10:37:28 AM
My husband got a new laptop with Vista a few weeks ago, and he loves it. We are not very computer literate, so he got someone to download all his files etc., and so far he has had no problems at all. I am sure that they will find solutions for the problems that are coming up, the same thing happened with Windows 98. I think if you have to get a new PC, there really is no point in getting anything other than Vista, it's just a case of getting used to it, and Microsoft getting the teething problems ironed out. Personally I have not used it, and I'm hoping our desk top will last for a while yet.
posted on April 7, 2007 10:51:44 AM
I think the big problem comes in when you try to use software that isn't approved by MS. MS is issuing certificates for other software and if what you are using doesn't have one, you run into problems. I use some pretty expensive software (PaintShopPro, PhotoShop, Acrobat Professional, etc.) that I can't afford to replace. So, instead of taking any chances I'm going to stick with XP for now.
posted on April 7, 2007 11:36:12 AMI think if you have to get a new PC, there really is no point in getting anything other than Vista
Can't agree with you there, sorry.
People use their computers for different things. I use my PC laptop mainly for browsing (listing on eBay) and for printing address labels. I have other computers that run other applications.
XP is a stable operating system and will probably continue to be supported in some fashion for several years. Two or three years is really about all the life one can expect from a computer that gets heavy usage, so I will be buying a new XP laptop soon, preferably with a 15 inch or bigger screen, if I can find one. There are still some out there. Harder to find are laptops without those horrid shiny displays that reflect glare from overhead directly back at you. They make my eyes ache.
posted on April 7, 2007 03:45:54 PM
Now that I don't have much in the way of corporate responsibilities/consulting to do, I think my household is going to go iMac.
We have 4 PCs; my daughter is "next up" for a replacement. I'm 95% sure it will be an iMac. They use them at school so it shouldn't be a major disruption for her.
The one thing I'm not looking forward to purchasing is photo processing software, but I guess I'll just have to bite the bullet.
I'll leave one high-end PC around for whatever I wind up needing one for.
I was inclined this way, and then spent 24 hours trying to rescue my PC, which became inoperable because I installed a MICROSOFT wireless keyboard and mouse. Spent 3 hours on the phone with them (who first tried to get away with telling me to call Dell, because obviously my PC was broken!!). I did get it back up and running, but Sheesh!
posted on April 7, 2007 07:15:36 PM
cash... when you get the iMac... have your daughter buy a copy of Photoshop Elements. Being in school, she should be able to buy it at academic pricing... for just $49.99 (a 50% savings from the normal $99.99). For most stuff, it's going to be just about as powerful as the full-blown Photoshop... but without the $600 price tag!
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posted on April 7, 2007 09:50:13 PM
cashinyourcloset wrote: We have 4 PCs; my daughter is "next up" for a replacement. I'm 95% sure it will be an iMac. They use them at school so it shouldn't be a major disruption for her. The one thing I'm not looking forward to purchasing is photo processing software, but I guess I'll just have to bite the bullet.
My advice is to look at a factory refurbished or demo intel-based iMac - either from a local store or the online Apple Store. You save a few hundred dollars and get the normal one year warranty.
You can run your existing Windows photo processing software on any intel Mac; there's no need to repurchase it. Simply use Apple's free utility Boot camp to install one of your Windows XP licences on a separate partition. (Whatever you do - don't go online with Windows XP without first installing SP1 and SP2.)
Other solutions are to download freeware graphics software for the Mac, or do as I did and buy a really ancient version of Adobe PhotoShop for $5, transfer registration (if registered) and upgrade it to CS3 to save approx $600...
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posted on April 8, 2007 07:19:38 AM
agitprop: Our son-in-law, Curt Fukuda, works for Adobe (writing the manuals). Did you by any chance know him or do you live far away and just did the beta testing? My Adobe PhotoDeluxe 4.0 (home version) is still my editing program of choice. Love it, even though it doesn't have the bells & whistles that my husband's PhotoShop has. He restores very old photos for our family and our museum in town, but it's too complicated for me to use quickly.
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I thought that I had to purchase XP; are you saying that I can install one of my copies (presumably as long as I discontinue using it on that PC) onto the Mac? That would be great!
Regarding Elements, that would work for my daughter, who is very much an amateur who just enjoys taking photos.
I don't know if I'll ever get a PC out of the hands of my 17-year old, though (whose PC is at his mother's house). [BRAG] Just to brag a bit, at 16 the web site www.strobist.com made him their youngest "on assignment" photographer, and wrote a nice piece about "John Dohrn: Lord of the Flies" (he does a lot of macro work with flies and other insects). Some of his insects can be found at http://www.flickr.com/photos/johndohrn/sets/72157594325872693/
It has been so long since I included an image, I can't remember how to do it... a mind is a horrible thing to lose.
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posted on April 8, 2007 06:22:02 PMMy advice is to look at a factory refurbished or demo intel-based iMac
I hope you're joking.
I bought a refurb G3 Wall Street PowerBook from the Apple Store. The upper left quadrant of the screen was burned in from doing demos over and over again, we assume. It wasn't noticeable at first but over time became all too apparent (and way past the 30 day warranty -- not one year).
About the same time I bought my mother a refurb iMac, which gave nothing but trouble.
Apparently not having learned my lesson yet, the current PC laptop is a demo unit from Circuit City. Fried battery. At least that only cost $45 to replace.
posted on April 8, 2007 07:00:13 PM
Roadsmith wrote: Our son-in-law, Curt Fukuda, works for Adobe (writing the manuals). Did you by any chance know him or do you live far away and just did the beta testing?
I know of him, but never met him. I began beta testing for Adobe back when the Knoll brothers were still writing PhotoShop code. I was based in Japan at the time so mainly did testing of Adobe's two-byte support for CJK (Chinese, Japanese, Korean). I did meet a few sanseis (third generation Japanese Americans) writers and designer visiting from the USA, but mostly dealt with Adobe's Tokyo office just down the street from my apartment.
cashinyourcloset wrote: I thought that I had to purchase XP; are you saying that I can install one of my copies (presumably as long as I discontinue using it on that PC) onto the Mac? That would be great! Regarding Elements, that would work for my daughter, who is very much an amateur who just enjoys taking photos.
Yes, if you have a unused XP licence, you can transfer it over to another computer such as an intel Mac. Just deinstall it on the PC afterwards if necessary - check your Microsoft XP licence for details.
PhotoShop Elements is also cheap on the Mac, but even the bundled copy of iPhoto works well too for simple tasks importing and cleaning up digital photos.
posted on April 8, 2007 07:59:09 PM
I own three refurb Macs. All arrived flawless and have performed as new. I'm typing this on my machine of choice, a 1999 G3 tower that hasn't shut down except for system upgrades since we installed the power backup generator 3 years ago. It lives in my dusty barn office..By the way, we have XP running on a new MacBook Pro. Using Parallels, we can dual boot the computer and have both systems running. We did it for no particular reason other than we could, I doubt we'll use XP for anything serious, maybe a game or two for the kid. The other computer on the ranch that has XP, a Dell, is much happier running Linux. Who needs the peripheral hassles and malware?
I used my own copy of XP to install on the MacBook, BTW.
posted on April 10, 2007 03:44:56 PM
UPDATE on my new computer with Windows Vista. It's working perfectly; my husband must be a whiz. It took us about 5 days to get it where I wanted it to be, and the only thing we still have to do is load all the e-mail addresses into my address "book."
It's always a real struggle for me, getting used to new machines or appliances of any sort. My fingers and hands seem to have automatic memory and know where to click on pages without my having to think. Now I have to retrain my brain.
Also, I think this new big flat screen monitor is bigger than I really like to use. The mouse has to move farther on the pages to click around. But. . . I'll probably get used to it before long.
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posted on April 10, 2007 04:03:42 PM
Roadsmith ... good for you, girl!!!! .... you seem to overcome obstacles, whatEVER comes thrown your way ....... and hey, a hubby that has some knowledge wherewithal is great too. LOL ..... upward and onward!
posted on April 10, 2007 06:35:40 PMThe mouse has to move farther on the pages to click around. But. . . I'll probably get used to it before long.
There is a setting in controls to speed up your mouse movement. I had the same trouble on XP.
posted on April 10, 2007 10:22:33 PM
Thanks, you two. So far, so good. I've been blessed for nearly 48 years with a brilliant husband, a scientist by training, who has a photographic memory, a kind heart, and a phenomenal mind. He also loves me and doesn't complain about helping me with gadgety things. I am a lucky woman.
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