profe51
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posted on June 9, 2007 09:44:21 PM new
finding some junk cleaning out a bunch of old boxes in the barn...any help ID-ing these plates will be appreciated. They are about 6+ inches in diameter. There was a gold edge to them that seems to be worn off on some. Obverse has some sort of crest and "Germany" written on it...Any value? Thanks!


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twig125silver
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posted on June 10, 2007 04:55:31 AM new
Can you get a closer pic of the mark?
Pretty little plates!
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profe51
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posted on June 10, 2007 08:15:12 AM new
Here's a closeup of the mark..

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mingotree
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posted on June 10, 2007 10:13:06 AM new
Profe, what else ya find in the barn???
Old bits? Spurs? Rosettes? Or just fancy dinnerware.
The plate is beautiful but I don't think it's worth much....sorry...
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TheFamilyBiz
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posted on June 10, 2007 01:35:51 PM new
That mark was used by:
Hermann Ohme Porcelain Manufactory
Niedersalzbrunn, Silesia, Germany (Szczawienko, Poland)
Porcelain
The mark was used 1882+ and the factory was in business 1882- ca. 1930.
This was taken from the Kovels' New Dictionary of Marks - 1850 to the Present
Hope this helps.
Wayne
Never explain -- Your friends do not need it and your enemies will not believe you anyway.
~ Elbert Hubbard
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twig125silver
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posted on June 10, 2007 02:05:56 PM new
Different book...same results.
Hermann Ohme~1882+
Not worthless, but probably not much. Might bring more if you list 2 or 4 plates together, if you can...as opposed to 4 individual plates.
Someone in a Victorian home would probably love them.
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TheFamilyBiz
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posted on June 10, 2007 02:11:46 PM new
The issue will probably be the worn gilding that you mention. We're finding that as long as we have "perfect" items, they're still doing well on eBay. If there's much of a flaw, plan on it going for a low value.
Wayne
Never explain -- Your friends do not need it and your enemies will not believe you anyway.
~ Elbert Hubbard
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profe51
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posted on June 10, 2007 08:37:54 PM new
Thanks twig et al...There are about 2 dozen of these plate and I haven't gone thru them all to look at their condition. I'd probably list them 2 to 4 at a time...
mingo, my barn is full of old bits, spurs, saddles, chaps, horsehair boselles and headstalls, lots of them made by those prisoners up in Montana or Wyoming or wherever that prison is all the way back to the 20's. I've got saddle blankets over a hundred years old...I know what that stuff's all worth, they go to old west auctions not Ebay...it's the fancy plates I know nothing about. 
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profe51
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posted on June 10, 2007 08:43:39 PM new
On a side note, how in the heck do people make any money out of china and dishes and such? What with the values being low and the packing and shipping being such an expensive pain in the rear, you gotta be figuring your time ain't worth a spit in the wind before you can justify any profit, seems to me like.
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mingotree
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posted on June 10, 2007 08:43:44 PM new
Profe, ""I know what that stuff's all worth, ""
Shoot! I was going to offer to come down and clean your barn out for you for free 
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profe51
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posted on June 10, 2007 08:53:01 PM new
I have had such offers in the past. In reality doing anything with all this stuff is a real pain. I have to get consensus from a million cousins and brothers and sisters that nobody can remember whose saddle that was or who wore those spurs or what horse that headstall came from and that that old relic has no sentimental meaning to anyone even remotely related to me or my family before anything can be sold off. If I dare part with some old ragged grass plaited lariat or rusty branding iron that's been hanging on a sheep stall for 75 years some relative will miss it next time we have a baptism-burial-marriage-get together and then there will be all hell to pay. "What happened to Tio's lasso? It was there in the barn when I was here three years ago, hijo de la chingada I thought you were taking CARE of this place!!!"
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mingotree
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posted on June 10, 2007 09:10:30 PM new
I forgot about your situation, Profe....relatives can be a huge PIA....I'm sure all your cousins, etc., come out all the time and clean and care for all that stuff...
As to , "" how in the heck do people make any money out of china and dishes and such? What with the values being low and the packing and shipping being such an expensive pain in the rear,""
You got it...I hate selling china for those reasons....and the buyer wants really cheap postage but SAFE packaging.
I was just at a live auction where there were beautiful old plates, some German, and other china and glassware, being sold for a few bucks...much not sold at all!
It's a shame...some, like your plates, are so pretty but I can't buy them all!!!
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TheFamilyBiz
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posted on June 10, 2007 09:51:24 PM new
Glad to have been able to help.
We've been doing just fine with china for several years. You just have to know what's moving and what's not - and as I said, it's got to be in very good condition unless there's a lot of demand.
We go to those "local" auctions where people usually don't pay much for good stuff and we still make a good penny. We just sold a set of very elaborate Limoges plates - shaped like flowers with multiple petals - all heavily gilded. They sold for $130+ and we had spend $25 for them.
Everyone was expecting to get them for a couple of bucks and we were willing to go a bit higher, because they were well marked. We do the research necessary to get higher prices - and don't just list things as "Pretty gold plates from France" as many sellers do.
But - the caveats again (as with many items on eBay these days) - you have to be able to accurately describe their provenance and they have to be in great condition.
And, those who are willing to shell out $100+ for a few old plates don't mind paying a few extra dollars to have it shipped properly. We even get kudos for packaging for international transit.
Now - what's going to be interesting as we move forward is that damn dimensional weight the USPS dumped on us 2 weeks ago.
Signed,
et al
[ edited by TheFamilyBiz on Jun 10, 2007 09:52 PM ]
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ST0NEC0LD613
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posted on June 11, 2007 10:22:19 AM new
Shoot! I was going to offer to come down and clean your barn out for you for free
Why not. Mingopig already lives in a barn.
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sthoemke
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posted on June 11, 2007 05:26:33 PM new
Dig around. You might find some old bottles worth a lot more.
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profe51
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posted on June 11, 2007 05:38:37 PM new
We have an old dump on the place that's now long covered with vegetation. It goes back to before there was trash pickup here locally, if you can call hauling your trash out 5 miles of dirt road "local". My brother and I used to dig up stuff out there when I was little but I haven't poked around since then. That ought to make a fun outing. It would be 200+ years of ONE family's trash. 
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twig125silver
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posted on June 12, 2007 03:40:51 AM new
It would be akin to an archeaological dig!
That could be fun! 
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