zoomin
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posted on February 20, 2008 12:44:18 PM new
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda-express-1980-HONDA-NC50-Complete-running-scooter-moped-NR_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6708QQihZ018QQitemZ280201298174QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
ebay item 280201298174
Honest bidders should appreciate that so someone doesn't bid to win and then come here and try to jew me down.
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zippy2dah
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posted on February 20, 2008 12:45:54 PM new
"On Feb-18-08 at 16:36:27 PST, seller added the following information:
I would like to apologize for the use of the term "jew" in the listing.It was meant only as a common phrase and I cannot remove it now.My apologies to all whom it may offend or have offended.M.D."
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zoomin
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posted on February 20, 2008 12:51:25 PM new
cant remove it
????????????
No brainer ~ end the listing and try agian without the 'jew it down' part.
....doubting the sincerity of an apology as well as his concern with who he offends......
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max40
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posted on February 20, 2008 12:55:25 PM new
"Common Phrase"?
Maybe in Nazi Germany in the 30's.
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zippy2dah
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posted on February 20, 2008 12:59:00 PM new
Unfortunately it is a common phrase in certain places.
I remember the first time I heard it. It was at a neighborhood garage sale in Oakland. My newest neighbor was fresh off the boat from a different state (I won't say which one) and he used that expression on the wrong person at the sale. It developed into pushing and shoving and near hitting within minutes. A few of us pulled them apart and sent him home.
The new neighbor came to me later and wanted to know if I could explain why the other guy got so upset with him. He honestly didn't understand what had happened. I tried to explain, he still didn't get it, I told him he might want to rethink living in Oakland.
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profe51
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posted on February 20, 2008 08:03:12 PM new
I hear it all the time. Ignorance is no excuse.
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pixiamom
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posted on February 20, 2008 08:18:46 PM new
I heard that phrase first in my sorority at U of Minnesota. I was shocked. Over half my close friends in high school were Jewish. The comment slipped out from a suburbanite in Edina. She didn't see any significance or slur in it. Edited to add: it was similar to my experience using the word "gypped". Until I was corrected, I had no idea I was slurring an ethnic group.
[ edited by pixiamom on Feb 20, 2008 08:21 PM ]
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KarenMx
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posted on February 20, 2008 09:02:45 PM new
Just reported for "offensive language in a listing". I hope eBay pulls it before it ends. There's no excuse for that--none.
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zoomin
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posted on February 20, 2008 09:15:50 PM new
Wow ~ I can't believe it is considered a 'common phrase' to so many of you!
You have no idea how many rude comments have run through my brain to "Ask Seller A Question"!
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bregmanl
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posted on February 20, 2008 09:29:08 PM new
I think you were a jerk for posting this subject. Its a fact of life in the USA that there is so many phony, righteous, hateful, holy than thou people that say these horrible words. And guess who says these words the most Gentiles, Christans, Born Again Christans, Catholics, and all these groups talk about love. I'am a old guy now, but I have witnessed thru my life time, hearing these horrible words about Blacks and Jews. Hate is alive more than ever in the USA.
I have seen more Jews and Blacks that are more Genuine and Generous to there fellow man, than these other relgions that preach love. Behind those closed doors in there homes they spill out plenty hate about other groups of people. That is a living fact of life in the USA
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zippy2dah
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posted on February 20, 2008 09:54:38 PM new
"Wow ~ I can't believe it is considered a 'common phrase' to so many of you!"
Please remember that stating a fact, that is IS commonly used by some people in some places, and APPROVING of the use of the phrase, are two entirely different things.
"I think you were a jerk for posting this subject."
Why is Zoomin a jerk for bringing it to our attention? He (or she, sorry, don't know) didn't write the ad and obviously doesn't condone the phrase. Get a grip!
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bregmanl
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posted on February 20, 2008 10:40:17 PM new
zippy2dah
I emailed this Jerk about his statement.
His answer was Go F--k Your Self. It just shows you his apology was BS. This is the Hate thats out there.
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zippy2dah
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posted on February 20, 2008 11:01:54 PM new
Oh, okay. I didn't see any quotes and I assumed the worst. I'm sorry about that.
Did he type "go f*#% yourself" through eBay? If so, did you report him?
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bregmanl
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posted on February 21, 2008 03:05:08 AM new
Zippy2dah
He came thru Ebay. No I did not report him, Ebay does not do anything. Leason learned, can't change a tigers stripes.
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zoomin
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posted on February 21, 2008 04:06:28 AM new
bregmanl:
I am a jerk for posting this subject???
how so?
I have no desire to be tolerant of blatant hatred or people who excuse themselves from spreading it by false apologies condoning it by stating that "everybody does it".
zippy
just shocked by the lack of shock ~ didn't mean to imply that you approved of it!
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neglus
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posted on February 21, 2008 04:15:54 AM new
Racial/religious/ethnic slurs are never ok.
I have to say, thankfully, that I never in my 50+ years have heard anyone use this particular slur.
I hope they pull the auction.
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http://stores.ebay.com/Moody-Mommys-Marvelous-Postcards?refid=store
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bregmanl
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posted on February 21, 2008 10:11:19 AM new
I thought I would let everybody no, ebay pulled his item off. That was a Good!!
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dejapooh
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posted on February 21, 2008 10:21:00 AM new
Who here filed a complaint with ebay? Just want to get a count...
I am one.
BTW zoom, you are not a jerk for posting...
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ST0NEC0LD613
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posted on February 21, 2008 10:25:33 AM new
Anyone ever heard of stick and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me?
This what is wrong in America today. Too many people are worried about what someone says. Wouldn't it be better just to simply say, "Whatever" and move on with your life?
[ edited by ST0NEC0LD613 on Feb 21, 2008 10:26 AM ]
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neglus
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posted on February 21, 2008 10:44:04 AM new
Wouldn't it be better just to simply say, "Whatever" and move on with your life?
No! Do you think "sticks and stones" would have worked for the victims of the Holocaust. Did it end the Jim Crow laws?
No. It is not a "whatever" thing. Racial and ethnic prejudice must not be tolerated in any arena.
Words do hurt and worse yet they teach and foster hate for generations to come.
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http://stores.ebay.com/Moody-Mommys-Marvelous-Postcards?refid=store
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zoomin
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posted on February 21, 2008 11:03:35 AM new
stone:
your grade school approach (sticks and stones will break your bones but words will never hurt you) followed by your high school approach (whatever) leads to prejudice, stereotypes, intolerance, and hate crimes.
Do you think the guys in their white sheets grow into cross burners overnight?
dejapooh: thanks!
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tomwiii
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posted on February 21, 2008 11:05:00 AM new
"Over and over, what we LEARN from history is that we do NOT learn!"
Tom & Ralphie
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ebayvet
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posted on February 21, 2008 11:23:00 AM new
I filed a complaint too, glad to see the item was pulled.
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ebayvet
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posted on February 21, 2008 11:28:12 AM new
"Anyone ever heard of stick and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me?"
The problem is that SOME words lead to actions that do hurt...Ask Matthew Shepard or James Byrd. Oh, you can't, they are DEAD because of words (hateful words) turned to murderous crimes.
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