vintageads4u
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posted on May 15, 2008 03:23:45 PM new
OK, so I am playing around with some of my listings and removing Paypal to see if people will use my Merchant service.
I'm on eBay revising listings and as I scrolled down to the shipping area it says that to sell to UK I must accept Paypal.
Strange. I accept credit cards and have 10 years on eBay, Powerseller, 100% FB and 4.9 DSR's. Is this new?
Beth
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agitprop
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posted on May 15, 2008 03:54:45 PM new
Sadly, yes. PayPal must now be offered on all items sold on eBay.co.uk. In Australia ONLY PayPal can be offered as a payment method from next month, subject to regulatory approval.
Apparently eBay isn't growing as much as in the past so to keep revenues up, PayPal is now required to be offered. This should increase eBay's profits in line with shareholder's expectations, as even with declining listing numbers, the increased PayPal revenue should offset it in the short term.
Now might be the time to start ramping up your website sales and thinking about using eBay as a sales generator, rather than as your sole outlet.
Home of the best eBay auction fee & PayPal calculators: http://auctionfeecalculator.com
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cblev65252
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posted on May 15, 2008 04:45:17 PM new
I'm confused. I think she's selling on the US site not the UK site, but will ship internationally. It doesn't make sense. So, we have to exclude the UK in our shipping preferences if we don't accept PayPal even if we're selling on the US site?
Cheryl
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hwahwa
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posted on May 15, 2008 04:57:07 PM new
Thats what it sounds like to me,if we dont accept Paypal,we cant ship to UK.
But does it mean UK buyers wont be able to find this item?
Another issue I dont understand is 'ivory',we cannot ship ivory items overseas.
But there are elephant ivory,hippo ivory and mammoth ivory carvings.
I can understand not shipping elephant ivory,but hippo and mammoth ivory usually come in from Asia and why cant we turn around and ship it overseas?
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roadsmith
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posted on May 15, 2008 06:07:32 PM new
Hwahwa--it's not only ivory items; it's the very mention of ivory, I think. I have a collector's book of Asian items and listed among all the chapters a couple on ivory and jade. eBay insisted I stand in the corner for that (didn't name the offending words, of course, but when I guessed right and took them out--thus doing a disservice to the book itself--the item is now allowed.) Go figure. ~Adele
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ST0NEC0LD613
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posted on May 15, 2008 08:21:21 PM new
The Ivory issue really isn't an Ebay problem, but a country that you may be shipping to problem. Many countries ban the purchase, selling and/or shipment of Ivory items. You can find out on the USPS site, but you have to go to each country individually to find out.
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roadsmith
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posted on May 15, 2008 09:42:53 PM new
But . . . why ban the mention of antique ivory in a book??? Doesn't make any sense.
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hwahwa
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posted on May 16, 2008 04:22:48 AM new
Ebay cant differentiate whether it is ivory colored dishes or a book on ivory or ivory carvings,so if you have the word 'ivory' in your item description or title,Ebay would not let you ship overseas.
But hippo ivory falls off the hippo every year and mammoth ivory is from a dead specie.
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merrie
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posted on May 16, 2008 06:14:23 AM new
I mentioned ivory as the color of a plate and Ebay would not let me list it now matter where I was willing to ship.
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vintageads4u
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posted on May 16, 2008 07:18:08 AM new
This has happened to me with an Ivory Soap ad. It was a relist too. Finally got it to go through by launching it from vendio without the word Ivory and then revising it on ebay.
Beth
Antique Ad Shop
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gasolineguys
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posted on May 16, 2008 09:36:39 AM new
Ivory is illegal to buy or sell in the US unless you can prove it is X number of years old. Don't know about ebay this is Federal Law
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roadsmith
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posted on May 16, 2008 10:10:47 AM new
Beth! That really worked for you? eBay didn't ding you on that? What a good idea.
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pixiamom
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posted on May 16, 2008 01:14:16 PM new
Is there a UK boycott of PayPal? Yesterday I got 2 different ASQ from the UK asking me if I would accept cash. Both stated explicitly that they preferred to not use Paypal.
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hwahwa
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posted on May 16, 2008 01:56:43 PM new
Gasolineguys,
not so,if it is prebanned elephant ivory already in this country,you can sell it,but EBay being based in California cannot allow anyone to list elephant ivory,thats what they told me years ago but now I see plenty of listing on prebanned ivory on Ebay.
US customs also would not allow anyone to bring in elephant and walrus ivory,there is a fine up to 3k plus for violating such.
But in recent years carvers have been using hippo tooth and mammoth tusk ivory which is not banned,hippo shed its tooth every year and mammoth are dead animals,both are acceptable on Ebay and anywhere in the world.
But Ebay does not seem to care if it were elephant ivory or hippo or mammoth or french ivory or mandarin ivory or a lace cloth of ivory color or a book on ivory,we cannot ship them overseas.
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gasolineguys
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posted on May 16, 2008 02:24:14 PM new
hwahwa, thats what I said if it before a certain date it can be sold but you must be able to prove how old it is if asked by the Feds. I had a cribbage board that I know was a 100 years old but could not prove to !!!
I don't know what ebay rules are on elephant Ivory are. I just stay clear of it
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agitprop
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posted on May 19, 2008 06:57:57 PM new
pixiamom wrote: Is there a UK boycott of PayPal? Yesterday I got 2 different ASQs from the UK asking me if I would accept cash. Both stated explicitly that they preferred to not use Paypal.
No UK boycott of PayPal at present. PayPal's mandatory to be offered in all listings on eBay.co.uk as of a few days ago. If eBay UK forbid all payments except PayPal (like Australia) then they would probably face a boycott and swift referral to the same EU competition watchdog that ruled against Microsoft and other tech companies.
We sell medium to high priced collectibles mostly to the UK and EU. I can confirm that many such buyers want to pay by bank transfer (EU) or cheque (UK) to take advantage of our free repeat customer or discounted shipping options. We can't offer free or discounted shipping to buyers that insist on PayPal since there is zero seller protection for our international sales. Instead we rely on self or third-party insurance.
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pixiamom
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posted on May 19, 2008 07:10:17 PM new
How is the Paypal only requirement affecting your Australian sales?
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buyhigh
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posted on May 21, 2008 12:35:27 PM new
Correction- Walrus ivory if used for Inuit carvings by Inuits is acceptable. The carvers derive a considerable amount of income from this. One has to put Inuit or Eskimo carved in the title.
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agitprop
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posted on May 21, 2008 04:06:42 PM new
pixiamom wrote: How is the Paypal only requirement affecting your Australian sales?
Zero effect as we still accept Australian bank transfers and cheques free of cost. If eBay Australia gets permission to go Paypal only we will remove Australia as an eBay sales outlet and market through OZtion.com.au (which is apparently experiencing huge growth from eBay seller looking for alternates).
It's looking increasingly that eBay Australia will NOT get permission to go Paypal only. Those lobbying against that measure include most of the larger banks, the Reserve Bank of Australia, and other consumer protection agencies, several citing PayPal lack of transparency and poor security among other factors. Some very damaging information is coming to light that paints PayPal in a poor light... some of which relates to all PayPal operations worldwide.
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agate18
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posted on May 21, 2008 05:14:05 PM new
The ACCC in Aust has also intervened. So has paymate.They also put in a very large amount of proof that pay pal was definitely not the best way to go. My friend who is a barrister here told me that there is high level government intervention on this matter. They are not happy about a foreign company trying to dictate to another country about how they can make payments in their own country.
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pixiamom
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posted on May 21, 2008 08:04:11 PM new
Glad to hear it Agitprop. I assume eBay chose Australia as their test market for their "PayPal Only" scheme because it held the best chance of succeeding there. Hope it will be shot down.
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