shagmidmod
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posted on July 31, 2008 08:55:15 AM new
Bidder wins a concert t-shirt for 99 cents. Listing is accurate, Size Large, chest measurement 42 inches (within the USA standard for size Large).
Pays immediately at 8:30 Sunday using Paypal with the following message:
"Thanks for the great shirt. I went to the concert in Columbus, OH but I didn't get a t-shirt. I hope the 42 inch chest description is accurate, as I usually wear an XL. Thanks, Brian"
The next morning at 5am, I get this message, "Hello from Kingfisher, Oklahoma. I won this for a friend of mine, and I never imagined I would get it for $.99. I talked to him this morning and found out he already has one. So, if you are not happy with the price I would be willing to let you out of the auction. If so, you can just refund my payment and then we can both leave positive feedback. Brian"
I already dropped the package off Monday before seeing this message, which is obviously different than the first message. I told him I sent it already.
His response, "That's cool Brother, I was just going to try to save you from selling it so cheap. I am sure I can wear it. I am 5' 10" and weight about 195-200. Plus, I can't complain about me getting a concert shirt for $8.18 (including shipping). Thank you, Brian"
Another message - "I just hope that the chest is 42" as advertised, so that it will fit. Brian"
And another message - "I'm a little concerned about the size of the t-shirt. You list it as a Large, but I have done some checking and a 42" chest t-shirt is a Medium. There is no way I can wear a medium. Could the Large have been a typo?"
I respond telling him the guidelines for shirt sizes, explain the shirt is tagged Large and that the chest measurement of 42 inches is accurate and within a size Large.
He follows with, "I found a different chart via eBay, but I'll just wait until I have received the t-shirt, and then if there is a discrepancy in the size I will conact you about a return and refund. Thanks, Brian"
Now, mind you... this is a 99 cent auction. My policies state no refunds. Who wants to bet the shirt doesn't fit him? Who wants to bet he wants a refund for the auction, for the shipping, and for the return shipping... all of this for a 99 cent auction! Ugh.
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niel35
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posted on July 31, 2008 09:04:24 AM new
Geez, and all this for .99 cents.
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ladyjewels2000
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posted on July 31, 2008 09:20:05 AM new
Who wants to bet if it doesn't fit you get a negative.
This is why I don't do 99 cent auctions.
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davidsmom
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posted on July 31, 2008 09:38:42 AM new
Tell him to keep it and use it as a dust cloth.
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blueyes29
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posted on July 31, 2008 10:36:46 AM new
I'm with davidsmom on this one...not worth the hassle! Chalk it up and put him on the blocked bidder list!
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carolinetyler
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posted on July 31, 2008 10:58:49 AM new
I stopped listing my no reserve auctions at 0.99 and will only do $9.99 because of idiots like that. I still get the occassional loser at $9.99, and the problem buyers are almost always those that pay under $20.
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Caroline 
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on July 31, 2008 11:48:36 AM new
.. all of this for a 99 cent auction! Ugh.
Welcome to my world.
fLufF
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It looked like she had that dreaded neurological disorder that lets you browse and bid on eBay all day long but won't let you push the "Pay" button.
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ggardenour
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posted on July 31, 2008 12:06:51 PM new
The bottom feeder buyers are always a problem. They are always looking for something for nothing. Don't understand the concept "You get what you pay for".
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MAH645
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posted on July 31, 2008 03:05:11 PM new
Many sellers have to start their auctions at 99 cents (me included) to even have any chance of selling at all-Thank you Buy.com. Most of us charge $5.00 to $6.00 shipping to keep from loosing totally. The main reason for the 99 cent auctions for me is the fees. At 99 cents it is only 10 cents a listing (Media items). Now we get our stars dings,negative feedback and there are going to be a ton of powersellers lose their discount after which they will go someplace else to sell because it will not work for them to sell on e-Bay anymore if they try to sell another way. So you stockholders hang on you haven't seen anything yet.
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deichen
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posted on July 31, 2008 04:33:50 PM new
Geez, all of those emails probably cost him more in time (time = $) than the cost of t-shirt + shipping. What a loser. If he doesn't like it, tell him you will refund the t-shirt price once you receive it back. He can eat the shipping both ways.
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merrie
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posted on July 31, 2008 04:37:20 PM new
What deichen said.
Send it back, send it back, send it back...
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shagmidmod
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posted on July 31, 2008 08:09:02 PM new
Oh, yeah... I also went back and checked his feedback history for others, and I see where he complained about Paypal policy/seller policy about sending the item back at his cost, and only getting a refund for the item... his negative read, "Ball junk! Fair to Paypal was to ship it back for more than paid. What a joke!" then there was a neutral, "Didn't work 4 us. Wrote Seller and was accused of blackmailing her for refund!"
Mind you, this bidder has over 200 positives with 100% feedback, all as a bidder.
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on July 31, 2008 08:38:43 PM new
Ugh. Obviously someone with a stubborn view of how things "ought" to be for bottomfeeders. People like this need to be set straight with some education from eBay.
What I would like is for eBay and PP to work together to create a special category of all sales final, no refunds, no returns items for ending prices under, say, five dollars. The bidder would be apprised right up front that he cannot return this item or get a refund. The buyer would still be able to leave negative feedback for the seller. But how great would it be if for certain low value items "all sales final" means truly final?
fLufF
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It looked like she had that dreaded neurological disorder that lets you browse and bid on eBay all day long but won't let you push the "Pay" button.
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mcjane
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posted on July 31, 2008 09:31:25 PM new
Brian is doing a great job playing Dr Jakel.
Can't wait for Mr Hyde to come out & I'm sure he will when he finds he's getting the grand sum of .99 for his refund.
shag, I hope that's all your going to give him. What more can you say other than what the tag says & the measurement you took. There is no discrepancy or missrepresentation except in Brians' mind.
Put a quick end to this, send him 99 cents & tell him to keep the T shirt.
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shagmidmod
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posted on August 1, 2008 04:52:11 PM new
Just as expected... I got this today.
"Well, I received the t-shirt today, and I can't even get it over my shoulders which is strange as I have several large t-shirts. I guess if you will not take it back for a full refund I will try to list it on eBay and sell it myself, as several people are bidding $9.99 or more plus shipping. But, I would prefer to seal it up and put "return to sender," and then get a refund of the $8.18? Brian"
Now the guy wants to commit mail fraud to return the item, and yet expects me to give him a full refund.
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eauctionmgnt
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posted on August 1, 2008 06:08:31 PM new
You've already wasted enough time with him. If you want to respond one last time, just copy and paste your no-returns wording from your listing. If I were you I'd be figuring that you're gonna get a neg anyhow... might as well keep the $0.99...
Oh... and then place him on your blocked bidder list (if you haven't already done so)
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carolinetyler
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posted on August 1, 2008 06:29:42 PM new
This guy is whacked! Last time I had one like that I emailed them the photo I used in the sale and told them to list it themselves, as they now have ownership, not me.
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Caroline 
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shagmidmod
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posted on August 1, 2008 06:33:34 PM new
eauction- that is exactly what i was thinking. why bother giving a 99 cent refund. that is probably more insulting to me even bothering about it.
i've even considered the posting this here taking away from my time, but every so often its fun to b!tch about something so trivial.
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mcjane
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posted on August 1, 2008 06:43:41 PM new
It sure is fun & it is trivial, but this kind of post keeps the board fun too.
Buyers never cease to amaze me. Gotta love those 99 cent complainers. 
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zippy2dah
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posted on August 1, 2008 07:41:40 PM new
It's time for Brian to face the reality of his weight.
(Edited because I originally typed Brain instead of Brian and that was an insult to Brain.)
[ edited by zippy2dah on Aug 1, 2008 07:43 PM ]
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on August 1, 2008 08:17:04 PM new
"Brain! Brain! What is brain?"
fLufF
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It looked like she had that dreaded neurological disorder that lets you browse and bid on eBay all day long but won't let you push the "Pay" button.
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deichen
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posted on August 2, 2008 05:52:26 AM new
This bidder is PATHETIC. I guess it takes all kinds, and occasionally we get to "meet" them thru our selling online.
Maybe the guy could lose some "bulk"! LOL
[ edited by deichen on Aug 2, 2008 05:52 AM ]
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shagmidmod
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posted on August 2, 2008 07:45:45 AM new
What is really strange, and says alot about one's intelligence is the fact that the guy can't face up to reality. He doesn't fit into traditional size Large shirts. If he couldn't get a 42 inch chest over his head, then he wouldn't be able to get a 44 inch chest to fit well either.
I've sold clothing for 8+ years on ebay, and this has to be the first idiot of the 10,000+ buyers I have had that doesn't understand the concept of measurements. He wants to live in a live of tag sizes. You and I all know that tag sizes mean squat!
I've lost alot of weight (80 pounds for that matter), and my normal size now is XL. Only 75% of XL actually fit me. Sometimes its too big, most of the time it is too small.
What idiot doesn't measure their own clothing before buying something online? Duh!
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shagmidmod
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posted on August 2, 2008 07:47:35 AM new
I should edit that statement... what stupid buyer would send a payment via Paypal, and then want a refund before even getting the item? Brian of course.
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alldings
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posted on August 2, 2008 09:48:29 AM new
The problem is in the buyers mind he paid $8.18 for the shirt and expects to get that back. Its going to cost him 2-3 bucks to send the thing back.
I have a problem with 99 cent sellers any way. They think they are slipping it to eBay by paying min listing and FVF's. Well they and the rest of us are eBay.
So while the 99'ers are slipping it to the Bay ao to speak, eBay counters by slipping it to the rest of us. Those of us who list and price items fairly and don't inflate s&h are getting the 99 cent shaft!
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thefamilybiz
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posted on August 2, 2008 10:28:21 AM new
That would be the case if the price was fixed. In this case, it was a starting "bid" on an auction.
eBay has already taken care of the sub-$1.00 fixed-price listings.
Wayne
Never explain -- Your friends do not need it and your enemies will not believe you anyway.
~ Elbert Hubbard
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on August 2, 2008 10:48:41 AM new
So while the 99'ers are slipping it to the Bay ao to speak, eBay counters by slipping it to the rest of us.
Sadly for your viewpoint, not even eBay agrees with you.
Five years ago I was paying 30 cents to launch a 99 cent no reserve auction. Now it's 15 cents.
If you want people to stop doing something, you don't make it cheaper for them to do.
fLufF
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It looked like she had that dreaded neurological disorder that lets you browse and bid on eBay all day long but won't let you push the "Pay" button.
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deichen
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posted on August 2, 2008 02:51:25 PM new
While I list at my lowest accepted price, I certainly feel it is entirely one's preference and if a seller wants to start at .99, then so be it. Why is that anyone else's business? I do not believe it is hurting the rest of us and sometimes if they end up selling for .99, it probably hurt the seller. Sounds like someone is angry about some competition.
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shagmidmod
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posted on August 2, 2008 06:13:12 PM new
99 cents was the starting price. I very rarely do things starting at 99 cents, especially for items valued under $50. I don't want to give away something. About once a month I purge a few things and let the "lucky" bidder have a chance to get it for next to nothing + my normal shipping fee.
I charge the same fee for shipping whether it be 99 cents or $49.99. It is preset in my listings. I'm charging $7.19 for a $4.85 piece of mail and I have a 4.9 DSR for every category except S&H, which is 4.7.
If I see it fall beyond 4.6, I'll reevaluate, but it is working for me and most people are happy to get their item shipped same day payment was made. I think people don't mind paying a few cents more if you get their item to them promptly. It is when you pay $7.19 for a $4.85 package and you wait a week to ship it that you get the lower DSR on S&H and shipping time.
I've never considered that other sellers have problems with a 99 cent auction w/inflated shipping and handling, especially now with eBay's combined price/shipping features.
I should mention, this is for another ebay account where I sell primarily clothing... in case you spies are checking my goods. lol.
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zippy2dah
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posted on August 2, 2008 06:55:35 PM new
I was spying.
I can always use more shirts that don't fit. Especially when it's your fault that they don't fit.
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