posted on November 19, 2008 02:00:13 PM new
I haven't been around for awhile but finally back at it and have brought my listing info up to date with PPal showing as my accepted payment method. Today I have a request from a potential buyer who is new to me saying she always pays using money orders and will I accept one? What to do???? I hate turning a possible sale down, but don't want to rattle any chains either.
posted on November 19, 2008 02:05:51 PM new
If you want to take the money order - by all means do so.
Try to write them back outside of the system if you can and say it's fine with you.
Ebay can't stop this form of payment but has stop us from listing it.
[ edited by ebabestreasures on Nov 19, 2008 05:45 PM ]
posted on November 19, 2008 02:28:59 PM new
Yes, for sure, accept it. I'm getting lots of requests like that, and I always say yes. There are buyers out there who don't want to use PayPal at all, and they're gradually getting wise to the system.
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posted on November 19, 2008 05:00:36 PM new
Several times recently when I have gone to send a combined invoice, there has been the option for money order or check on it. I didn't think eBay would still have them on there. There are still thousands of auctions offering both.
posted on November 19, 2008 05:29:25 PM new
Hello,
EBay has stated that if a buyer asks you to accept paper payments, then eBay will allow you to do so. However, please be very careful with this. EBay has also stated that if you offer (or even suggest or allude to) accepting paper payments without the buyer having initiated the request, then you risk account suspension.
posted on November 20, 2008 04:46:16 PM new
fake money orders are easy to print,if they can print fake USPS postal orders,they can print your friendly local grocer association of Kansas money order.
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Hellilujah!
posted on November 21, 2008 12:25:28 PM new
So when the text from our Vendio template when listed on Ebay says
I accept the following forms of payment:
PayPal
Direct Offline Credit Card Payment: Visa/Master Card, American Express, Discover
Money Order
Are we going to getinto trouble for this. As we offer money right in the listing.
Also on another note
IF Direct Offline Credit Card Payment could be reworded to Credit Card by phone would help. We have alot of people that can not figure out what that means and never pay.
Even when they check it in the checkout they see this text right below it.
NOTICE* Using this option you NEED to call us to pay by PHONE!! US Toll-Free 1-888-275-5111 / 414.384.2274 M-F 10am to 6PM Central Time
**Don't forget to click the Confirm button below.**
[ edited by benscycle on Nov 21, 2008 12:27 PM ]
posted on November 21, 2008 12:31:14 PM new
Hello benscycle,
yes, you will want to remove the Money Order option from your Vendio checkout settings, or from appearing anywhere on your listings, to avoid any issues with ebay.
posted on November 21, 2008 12:48:29 PM new
The text is coming from the global setting under payments. If we unchecked it it will also disable it in the checkout. So Vendio Store customers will not be able to use the money order option.
posted on November 21, 2008 12:57:40 PM new
Hello,
Your Vendio "Global Preferences" are defaults for your new inventory items. You may edit this information when creating an inventory item, or for existing inventory items, under the "Payment" section of the "Payment & Shipping" tab.
Note that eBay has announced they will not be enforcing the paperless payments policy until January. Once they do begin enforcing it, we will most likely send new listings without the paperless payment options, even if they are selected within the inventory items.
posted on November 21, 2008 01:00:19 PM new
benscycle, at one point, I was told by Vendio CS, that they would block all non-approved payment methods from appearing on ebay, when we have a Vendio store and accepted alternate payment methods at our Vendio store.
As you can see, this has not been effected by Vendio.
Since I indicate that I accept checks, money orders and payment by Goggle, for the Vendio store, I have to uncheck those payment methods in the global settings, before I send items to ebay. And, then recheck when I am finished with listing new items at ebay.
posted on November 22, 2008 01:15:53 AM new
Remember that the "PayPal/Card Payments Only" folly only applies to eBay.com - all the others are business as usual.
We're still averaging 95% payments via bank-to-bank transfers with online auction sites. Most customers these days are wealthy Europeans. We expect to see an upswing in orders from the EU now that the customs threshold has been raised from €22 to €150...
posted on November 22, 2008 04:54:07 AM new
I dont think you get it-Ebay lets any one sells on Ebay and bank to bank transfer or cash or money order provides little buyer
protection.
We are seeing more and more cracks and flaws and nonsense in Ebay business model.Not to mention its stock price!
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Economic Reform act of Chairman Obama of the socialist States of America :
10 ounces of meat per month,half a yard of cotton per year per adult.
Hellilujah!
posted on November 22, 2008 05:17:53 AM new
We do get it Hwahwa and we do understand why SOME sellers should be required to use approved payment methods offering maximum buyer protection. But come on! I don't think that many of us with a good track record and selling items that are not high demand should be required to follow the same restraints. Surely a seller with 27,000 FBs (or even 10,000, 5,000, 3,000, 1,000) selling low demand items should be allowed to accept any form of payment. This isn't about Buyer Protection at all. It's about PayPal.
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posted on November 22, 2008 05:43:14 AM new
Actually, I don't think either of you get it.
It ceased to be a question of what sellers "should" or "should not" be allowed to do long ago. With Lorrie Norrington and Co. choking the life out of the marketplace with Best Match and a totally unnecessary site redesign -- October pageviews were down 30 PERCENT year-over-year -- that revenue has to be made up somewhere. And the annual greedy fee hike, which is sure to be sold as a "fee reduction", doesn't come until January.
Pierre Omidyar needs to wake up, take charge and give current management the boot. He's still the biggest single stockholder, after all. It's the only thing that can save eBay.
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posted on November 22, 2008 06:21:20 AM new
That's what I meant with "all about PayPal". So you think the bad guy is Lorrie?
Too bad the economy is in the toilet - stockholders will be told that this is all about the economy and retail is tough all over. The Man behind the Curtain in this OZ-Ebay land bought more time. Do you really think Pierre will step in and do something? I think that is wishful thinking.
I think a new search probably is necessary to handle all of the new listings created by Buy and the other anchors eBay hopes to bring on board. Upper management must be throwing new parameters to add to the "Best Match" formula (ie DSRs and free shipping) that stymie the process and make whatever Search the finding team designed in the first place even more F#&^^$ Up than the old search.
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posted on November 22, 2008 04:57:42 PM new
neglus - I couldn't agree more. Once a seller has built their FB so high, they have earned the right to set their own rules within limits, IMHO. Ebay has gone off the deep end trying to protect buyers that they have lost total sight of what buyers can and will do to sellers.
Years of hard work and high standards can be lost in a few days now.
posted on November 22, 2008 06:42:50 PM new
Just because a seller has over 10,000 feedback does not mean he is better, Ebay history is littered with sellers of all stripes and colors who skipped town.
You may say you are honest to the very end swearing on the bible or koran or whatever,but we all know selling on Ebay is not like before,Ebay cannot make exception like I dont sell much or I am rich and sell for fun,or I have a real store or I can show you my purchase receipt or call my supplier,or here is a picture of me and my merchandise or I am from Mars.
I am sure making extra with Paypal is a good reason for Ebay but arent we all striving for same-profit?
AMZN has one click payment so Ebay has Paypal only.They own the venues and we do not.
EBAY does not prequalify its sellers,may be it should start asking for a deposit or membership fee or make the Ebay assistants register with the states and sell for others who 'dont sell much'.
Ebay does not lack sellers,it needs more buyers so we can expect most changes are geared towards favoring buyers not seller.
Such is life in the retail world these days,too many sellers chasing too few buyers.
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Economic Reform act of Chairman Obama of the socialist States of America :
10 ounces of meat per month,half a yard of cotton per year per adult.
Hellilujah!
posted on November 23, 2008 01:15:07 PM new
Ebay's business model is to squeeze sellers dry to gain profits by monopolizing the system.
1) Seller is pretty much forced to accept Paypal (since it conveniently interacts perfectly with eBay), you can't even offer a direct payment method outside of their control.
2) You get rated on shipping charges. If the bidder doesn't understand the cost of shipping and packing materials to get their item to arrive safely, then you're screwed. Even if you offer Free Shipping, the bidder automatically knows you've rolled it into the price.
3) Ebay is ramming "free shipping" down the throats of sellers... not because it helps the buyer, but because ebay can make more Final Value Fees on a higher priced item b/c it includes shipping charges into the auction price. It wasn't good enough that Paypal makes their fees on the shipping costs too.
4) You get rated on shipping time. A double edge sword, because I offer both Priority and Parcel post so that the customer can pick between faster shipment at a higher cost or slower shipment at a lower cost. Guess how that translates to your DSRs???
5) Think about all of the Non Paying Bidders you've opened disputes on over the years. How much money did you lose because you lost your listing fees thanks to them not paying.
6) If a bidder is unsatisfied with their product for whatever reason in the world... even if you list the item as AS IS, NO REFUNDS... or the item is flawless, or they bidder is simply scamming you, or they have buyers remorse, or simply need the money they blew on your sprocket and cog set...if they pay using Paypal - you're screwed. Paypal will have the bidder return the item, and the payment you received is returned to the buyer, including the shipping fees (another reason why ebay wants to have inclusive "free shipping".
If there ever is a problem and you used ebay and accepted Paypal for payment... you're screwed. All together now... YOU'RE SCREWED!!!
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