roadsmith
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posted on March 31, 2009 05:21:16 PM new
A seller has posted this right on his auction page.
"According to Ebay's new rules I may accept another form of payment other than Paypal only if the buyer requests it. (According to Ebay's new rules I am not even allowed to mention what these other forms of payment are!) So, if you would prefer not to use an electronic payment method, please let me know and I will gladly accommodate you."
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"Here in America we are descended in blood and in spirit from revolutionists and rebels - men and women who ***dared to dissent*** from accepted doctrine. As their heirs, ***may we never confuse honest dissent with disloyal subversion."*** --Eisenhower
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zippy2dah
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posted on March 31, 2009 05:22:12 PM new
No.
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postcardman
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posted on March 31, 2009 09:28:03 PM new
So is there any magic wording or codewords that you could use to let the buyers know that a money order would be just fine? I have gotten quite a few emails lately from potential bidders asking if postal money orders would be accepted. Seems like a code word in the listings could be useful. How about "POMO FRIENDLY".
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amber
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posted on April 1, 2009 04:25:48 AM new
I saw this on the Canadian board. It's very funny, but I don't recommend using it!
"PayPal accepted. The auction giant will not let me tell you about other ways but they rhyme with 'stash', 'Shrek' and 'bunny boarder.'"
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Damariscotta
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posted on April 1, 2009 06:46:31 AM new
How about: I may not ship immediately, as I am too busy running to the bank with the checks and money orders people send me.
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ebabestreasures
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posted on April 1, 2009 07:52:31 AM new
I still see people listing in their auctions that they take checks or money orders. I guess ebay just has not caught them yet.
[ edited by ebabestreasures on Apr 1, 2009 07:53 AM ]
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roadsmith
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posted on April 1, 2009 09:35:29 AM new
You guys! I needed a good laugh this morning.
I wonder what eBay would do to a seller who posted coded messages; would he be kicked off immediately or just warned?
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"Here in America we are descended in blood and in spirit from revolutionists and rebels - men and women who ***dared to dissent*** from accepted doctrine. As their heirs, ***may we never confuse honest dissent with disloyal subversion."*** --Eisenhower
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amber
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posted on April 1, 2009 10:26:52 AM new
The message I posted was on an auction, as far as I know it is still there.
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ggardenour
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posted on April 1, 2009 01:15:03 PM new
Couldn't you use....."You (the buyer) may request other payment options"?
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zippy2dah
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posted on April 1, 2009 02:37:54 PM new
"Bummer. All of my items got pulled."
http://forums.ebay.com/db2/topic/Clothing-Shoes-Accessories/Bummer-All-Of/520108041
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ebabestreasures
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posted on April 1, 2009 03:18:59 PM new
I really like this one from that link:
"Yes, I also accept Paypal".
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roadsmith
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posted on April 1, 2009 03:26:45 PM new
ggardenour: I like that. Do you think we could use it in our eBay invoice? Or. . . send from our e-mail a personalized invoice, as I used to do. That would bypass eBay completely--I think.
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"Here in America we are descended in blood and in spirit from revolutionists and rebels - men and women who ***dared to dissent*** from accepted doctrine. As their heirs, ***may we never confuse honest dissent with disloyal subversion."*** --Eisenhower
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stonecold613
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posted on April 1, 2009 08:37:16 PM new
I send all of my buyers an end of auction e-mail. And I capitalize Google checkout, Money Orders and yes, even cash.
As far as what you write in your listing, what Roady wrote is OK. As long as you don't write cash or money orders it is OK.
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zippy2dah
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posted on April 1, 2009 08:54:07 PM new
"As far as what you write in your listing, what Roady wrote is OK. As long as you don't write cash or money orders it is OK."
Wrong.
"Sellers aren't allowed to make statements like:
“Contact us for payment information.”
“Contact us for other payment methods.”
“Contact us for your preferred payment method.”
“Buyers may request to pay by check or money order.”
There is only one exception: Sellers who offer payment upon pickup may include this statement in their listings: “Contact me for payment methods to pay on pickup.”"
http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/accepted-payments-policy.html
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kozersky
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posted on April 1, 2009 10:22:31 PM new
If you must try to circumvent policy and accept checks, I suggest that you state the ebay policy regarding checks.
We accept PayPal. As a reminder, it is eBay policy that sellers cannot ask buyers to mail checks or money orders as payment.
Which comes directly from ebay policy -
Bill K-
[ edited by kozersky on Apr 1, 2009 10:24 PM ]
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zippy2dah
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posted on April 2, 2009 09:37:29 AM new
Ummm, probably not a good idea.
For one thing, hints are not allowed and that could easily be construed as a hint by an on the ball employee.
However, chances are good the employee doing the reading is functionally illiterate. In which case you should worry that he/she will shut down your listings just for including the words "checks" and "money orders" as they search for those words specifically.
More on hints:
"A seller may not "hint" that other than approved payment methods are accepted, for example, an email to a buyer or a line in the description that says anything along the lines of "EMail me about other payment methods." OR "Email me if you have questions about these payment methods."
Anything, and I mean anything in a seller's listing that hints or alludes to unapproved payment methods will result in the listing's removal.
Attempts to circumvent this policy will be viewed and handled as such."
http://workshops.ebay.com/thread.jspa?threadID=130000666&tstart=0&mod=1219772793315
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zippy2dah
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posted on April 2, 2009 09:53:30 AM new
The seller referenced in the opening post lost some listings since last night when I bookmarked several of his most recently listed items. Today they are all completely gone.
I haven't had to close a listing in a while so I don't know. Did eBay stop announcing when listings are closed by sellers or do they still add that notation to the completed listing and keep the page available? If they didn't stop doing that it sure looks like eBay took them down.
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kozersky
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posted on April 2, 2009 10:17:09 AM new
I'll stand by that statement. In fact, I would not hesitate to take it to court.
We accept PayPal. As a reminder, it is eBay policy that "sellers cannot ask buyers to mail checks or money orders as payment."
Bill K-
William J Kozersky Stamp Co.
William J Kozersky Stamp Co. Book Store
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Helenjw
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posted on April 2, 2009 10:27:12 AM new
The igits are probably reading this thread to find some good searchable hints.
Then they can close some more auctions and lose more sales that might otherwise benefit themselves, the seller and buyers who will not use PayPal.
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zippy2dah
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posted on April 2, 2009 10:35:18 AM new
I assume the "igits" are the ebay employees assigned the task of closing down the naughty listings?
If so, they are not reading this thread to learn anything new. Anything that has been mentioned here as a searchable hint has already been discussed and/or mentioned by THEM. Multiple times. All over eBay and their blogs. Since last August.
"I'll stand by that statement. In fact, I would not hesitate to take it to court."
Cool. I wish you only off the ball yet functionally literate employees in your future but if it does come down to a legal pursuit, please let us know because I want to be there to cheer you on.
ETA: lol, I spelled igit wrong cause I iz one.
[ edited by zippy2dah on Apr 2, 2009 10:36 AM ]
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Helenjw
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posted on April 2, 2009 11:02:58 AM new
On this topic, I'z one 2, Zippy2dah. 
So, they've covered all hints, including the good one suggested by Kozersky?
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zippy2dah
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posted on April 2, 2009 03:57:58 PM new
I beg to differ that it's a good hint (after all, in their zeal to keep eBay safe (lol!) they're closing down Johnny Cash listings so using that word for whatever reason seems eBay suicidal to me) but yes, I would bet good money they've seen it before.
It may very well still pass inspection though. Who knows? In the end it's all a cr#p shoot.
Speaking of which (cr#p), it appears that the seller in question has lost even more listings. He had 18 earlier today. Now just 2. Only 1 shows as completed. That's a shame. He has (had?) some interesting items. Nice feedback too.
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romantiques
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posted on April 3, 2009 07:20:02 AM new
There's a seller I check in on now and then who has a little payment hint in his/her listings. Paypal shows as the biggie in the payment logo box, but just below that where it says payment instructions...he says "Let me know how you will be paying. Paypal, check etc." It's been there bold as day right along.
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merrie
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posted on April 6, 2009 10:26:54 AM new
I just noticed a friend of mine has in her ad, "PayPal preferred." That is sort of a hint without mentioning anything else.
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romantiques
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posted on April 6, 2009 02:31:27 PM new
A friend said that he contacted ebay through their email asking why some sellers repeatedly mention other payment options without having their auctions pulled, gave examples and politely asked for a response.
He said that was over a week ago and shock that it is, he hadn't heard anything back from them yet. He says none of the examples he gave changed. They and the other auctions by those particular sellers stayed the same. He's furious that he plays by the rules and feels he has probably lost sales as a result.
As I posted a few days ago, I too had noticed a few without going on a hunt to do so. We play by the rules too. I'll be honest, I personally won't look for any more violations and hope I don't even stumble on any ... it just gets my blood pressure cookin' and from what he tells me, it doesn't do any good to report or complain. If I don't like the heat I should get out of the kitchen ...or something like that. Shame isn't it??? What happened to that level playing field concept???
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alldings
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posted on April 7, 2009 04:08:30 AM new
It is possible that requesting all sellers to use PP or other paperless payment is stepping on the fine line of some legal issue. Also if prior to the new rules say 50-60% of the payments were PP and that has jumped up to say 80-90% the Bay may have decided that is an acceptable number so they are not hot to track down those that still offer other payments. They are never going to catch them all.
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Helenjw
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posted on April 7, 2009 06:07:25 AM new
You can count on the fact that Ebay will implement this policy in a manner that is most profitable to Ebay. Ending every Ebay auction or sale in the U.S. offering other payment options would result in a significant loss. Such changes can't be made overnight.
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