neglus
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posted on May 12, 2009 10:53:20 AM new
Starting on June 16, 2009, Auction-style listings submitted through the standard Sell Your Item or Simple listing form will be eligible for new pricing which includes:
* 5 FREE Insertion Fees every 30 days, regardless of start price of the item*
* The $0.00 Insertion Fee listings will have a Final Value Fee per listing of 8.75% or $20, whichever is lower
* Current Insertion Fees and Final Value Fees will apply to additional listings within the 30 day period
http://pages.ebay.com/sell/June2009/List5Free/
So I guess you list your 5 most expensive items first thing each month. Looks like the items have to be listed through eBay (no 3rd party applications).
Edited to add: Didn't notice the FVF difference when I first posted - if item is expensive enough, the $ saved in listing is more than gobbled up by FVF at 8.5%
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[ edited by neglus on May 12, 2009 10:55 AM ]
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on May 12, 2009 11:22:42 AM new
Didn't notice the FVF difference when I first posted
You weren't supposed to pay attention to the man behind the curtain.
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cblev65252
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posted on May 12, 2009 11:59:38 AM new
LOL, Fluffy. Typical eBay wizardry.
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kozersky
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posted on May 12, 2009 12:05:03 PM new
Griff at eBay Radio just mentioned that the listing promotion is not a good deal for higher priced items.
He aksed sellers to call in with their opinions.
The show is on now at eBay Radio.
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sthoemke
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posted on May 12, 2009 01:08:29 PM new
Too bad about the higher FVF fee.
At least you don't need to pay the insertion fee if the item doesn't sell.
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roadsmith
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posted on May 12, 2009 02:23:33 PM new
So. . . for those of us who list through Vendio, what is changing? I hope that higher FVF isn't across the board; that's an ugly number.
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on May 12, 2009 03:07:30 PM new
Sounds like a good way to run classified ads. Put your item up and when someone bids on it, contact them discreetly and arrange off-eBay payment.
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kozersky
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posted on May 12, 2009 03:17:47 PM new
This appears to be an attempt to have sellers leave the third party providers, and list through ebay.
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LtRay
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posted on May 12, 2009 04:26:32 PM new
This special can be a good value if you have items you expect to close over $475.00. BUT ... would you really want to list your high $$ items at auction during June, July or August? The slowest browsing time of the year???
I can see this working well for store owners with highend merchandise or certain items that have strong summer markets. I do not see it working out well for most collectibles or fine jewelry.
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amber
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posted on May 12, 2009 04:51:32 PM new
I must be missing something here. What advantage is it to eBay to have sellers list directly onto eBay rather than use third party providers? Surely, they get the same fees.
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ebayvet
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posted on May 12, 2009 11:25:28 PM new
Not necessarily. If you want more than one photo, you pay more. Also, with 3rd party vendors, you set up your preference so that you never really have the option to add on to your listing, but you get that choice every time you list directly through ebay. Maybe they are looking for impulsive listers?
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LtRay
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posted on May 13, 2009 12:42:11 AM new
"What advantage is it to eBay to have sellers list directly onto eBay rather than use third party providers?"
If ebay starves out the 3rd party providers then ebay can generate more revenue by charging more for Sales Manager and picture hosting. I think they found out from their surveys last year that ebay store owners were not willing to spend much more than the current store fees.
Now that many 3rd party providers are giving their customers viable store building options that do not have to be attached to ebay, I think ebay is seeing the writing on the wall. Current eBay store owners will no longer be willing pay ebay and ProStores those higher fees if they can build their own independent Vendio Store for much less.
Of course, the success of a 3rd party store will depend upon your efforts in achieving search engine rankings high enough to be found.
Buyers are learning that eBay is not the only place to shop on the web. Note the large decline in ebay buyers Q1 '09. More shoppers are finding what they want by using search engines such as Google and Yahoo.
Many others are just plain turned off by ebay and PayPal and are willing to pay higher prices at Amazon to keep from having to deal with the ebay hassle.
I received an ebay survey last week asking me to critic the 3rd party providers I had used to manage my ebay lists. About half way through I decided to not complete the survey because of the types of questions being asked.
What business is it of ebay's how I feel about my 3rd party providers and why should I critic them to ebay? If I wanted to send suggestions to someone it would be the actual provider and not ebay.
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ebabestreasures
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posted on May 13, 2009 06:11:12 AM new
I don't like the idea not using a third party (Vendio) to list but it may be worth it on really high priced items.
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hwahwa
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posted on May 13, 2009 06:25:46 AM new
It is meant for sellers who dont list regularly.
This could attract the brick and mortar stores which have nice merchandise and need to sell some to pay rent !
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hwahwa
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posted on May 13, 2009 06:27:44 AM new
I don't like the idea not using a third party (Vendio) to list but it may be worth it on really high priced items.
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eauctionmgnt
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posted on May 13, 2009 07:45:23 AM new
Hmmm... thanks for posting this Neglus... I might consider taking advantage of this as a marketing ploy... I don't sell anything on eBay anymore. I've been doing very well with my own website. But... if I listed 5 items a month on eBay... it would give me a small amount of extra exposure, without any cost (unless it sold... in which case, I'd obviously recoup the expenses). Just not sure if it's really worth the hassle for the small amount of extra sales I might get from it... still it's worth thinking about...
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deichen
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posted on May 14, 2009 12:11:44 PM new
eauctionmgnt
This was my thoughts as well. I haven't listed on ebay in quite awhile, can one only list the five items? With the higher FVF, it would have to be worthwhile. Without looking it up, what is the current FVF structure, does anyone know?
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hwahwa
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posted on May 14, 2009 04:28:13 PM new
Ebay does not offer this first 5 items free to those who use third party service.why?
Those who use third party are old timers and could be relisting stale items ,Ebay wants fresh merchandise !and they will come from brick and mortar stores who are not active on Ebay.
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hwahwa
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posted on May 16, 2009 06:20:34 AM new
what is the current FVF structure, does anyone know?
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You have to look up the structure on Ebay,without knowing what you sell!
Expect FVF to be more than 8%
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10 ounces of meat per month,half a yard of cotton per year per adult.
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niel35
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posted on May 20, 2009 04:47:32 PM new
Nope it excludes Reserves. So will have to reconsider. I paid so little for it that any price is a profit
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hwahwa
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posted on May 20, 2009 07:42:49 PM new
make sure you stil have a profit after $20 or 8.75% WHICHEVER IS LOWER!
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buyhigh
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posted on June 1, 2009 12:36:10 PM new
Is there an Ebay listing form other than turbolister where one can opt out of this promotion? If not that means that one should first list 5 items that one fully expects to end under $25.00 Otherwise the $1.00 that one would pay to list an item starting at say $49.00 would be far surpassed by the 8.75% FVF for remaiming amount above $25.00 which is now 3.50%
buyhigh
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ebabestreasures
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posted on June 5, 2009 09:00:58 AM new
Good Point - buyhigh.
I found this in the Q&A section:
Can I opt-out of this new pricing structure?
You should choose the option that works best for you. If you do not wish to take advantage of the new pricing structure, you can opt-out by listing your items via an eBay tool (some are free) or third-party listing solution. The new pricing structure does not apply to sellers who list items through eBay tools or third-party listing solutions.
This is a very confusing new policy. I think it's going to catch alot of people off guard on the FVF on lower price items.
The tricky part is that it start after the 16th of June and stays in place for 30 days. Each seller's 30 days will be different.
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sthoemke
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posted on June 5, 2009 01:23:11 PM new
I think a lot of sellers will be "tricked" into listing 5 high-value items, without realizing the higher FVF structure.
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