amber
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posted on August 14, 2009 03:20:04 PM new
One of the things in my new collection is an very old shaving mug. No markings at all. It's pink with flowers, which seems rather unusual. The thing I don't think I have seen before is that there is a seam as if it has been made in 2 halves and joined? Does this mean that it's a home made piece? Is or was this a common practice?
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niel35
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posted on August 14, 2009 03:24:59 PM new
How about a pic, Amber. Pink. hmmmm must be a lady's
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max40
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posted on August 14, 2009 03:45:55 PM new
Include a picture of the base.
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eauctionmgnt
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posted on August 14, 2009 04:15:02 PM new
my guess is it's probably a slipcast piece (usually plaster molds, where the water/clay mix is poured into... and then the mold halves are removed and reused).
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amber
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posted on August 15, 2009 06:19:53 AM new
Here are the pictures. I don't know if you can see the seam, it is on the bottom, and up the lower white bowl part.
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LtRay
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posted on August 15, 2009 07:08:51 AM new
Amber, this looks like the same pottery as your mug http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140336595116
As for the pink and flowers, that is not uncommon for a mans mug. "Momma" did the buying and she would have wanted a mug that complemented her washbowl set.
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amber
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posted on August 15, 2009 07:28:37 AM new
I didn't think about the woman buying it to match her set. The other one listed doesn't have the seam, and mine has no marks on the bottom, so I am not sure how to list it. I am sure it is handpainted, and I am wondering if it could be by the painter NELL that painted the teapot I had on another link.
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max40
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posted on August 15, 2009 07:29:35 AM new
Definitely better quality than I was expecting from your initial description.
It appears that whoever did the finishing of the piece didn't completely remove the seam marks. Other than that, it's a very nice piece. The fact that the other one referred to in this thread didn't sell, it still has a good value. In a brick and mortar store it would sell.
Edited to add-- "The other one listed doesn't have the seam"
Actually it does have the seam across the bottom. The pictures are so crummy that it's hard to see. Done on purpose?
[ edited by max40 on Aug 15, 2009 07:32 AM ]
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niel35
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posted on August 15, 2009 08:16:39 AM new
"The pictures are so crummy that it's hard to see. Done on purpose?"
Max, she did this just for the EBay catalog. I am sure they will jump on it!
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amber
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posted on August 15, 2009 08:33:41 AM new
Max: So are you saying that the person who painted it, also probably made the whole thing? Any guess on age?
I really appreciate you guys on this board, I get so much help. I did register on the Pottery and China eBay board. I thought I was reasonably intelligent, but I just CANNOT find a way to ask a question on there.
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LtRay
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posted on August 15, 2009 09:15:43 AM new
Amber, here is another Union made scuttle.
http://www.ecrater.com/product.php?pid=4658045
I would suspect from the mediocree quality of the decorations on the 3 mugs that these were probably mass produced for the general merchantile market and date from 1900- 1930.
*corrected date range*
[ edited by LtRay on Aug 15, 2009 09:56 AM ]
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max40
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posted on August 15, 2009 09:22:37 AM new
When you get to the board, you'll see a yellow bar across half the top of the page. Next to the bar is --Post a topic. Click on that and it will ask you to sign in. After signing in it returns you to your posting spot.
I think someone else posted a reply on these decorated pieces. To repeat it, around the early 1900's it was a fad for home artists to decorate porcelain blanks. The blanks were supplied by many different companies. Some of the companies were famous then and still manufacturing fine porcelain today. Porcelain centers in Limogue France and several places in Germany offered the blanks. Home artists then painted the items and fired them. Some are signed, and others not. Also some bring huge amounts on today's market.
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pixiamom
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posted on August 15, 2009 10:11:39 AM new
I wouldn't be too concerned about the seam - when liquid clay is poured into a mold, a seam is formed where the two halves on the mold come together. After the clay dries, the piece is "cleaned" with dental-like tools to scrap away the seam, then with sand paper to give it a smooth finish. It looks like your piece wasn't thoroughly cleaned before painting.
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