REAMOND
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posted on August 13, 2001 03:10:11 PM
http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2001/08/13/cam_girls/index.html
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bunnicula
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posted on August 13, 2001 05:04:46 PM
It's begging, plain and simple. Not something parents should allow or encourage in their children.
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uaru
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posted on August 13, 2001 05:11:02 PM
I liked one gal's statement, "To me, it's the newest form of prostitution"
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hepburn
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posted on August 13, 2001 05:22:27 PM
Try clicking on some of the links to those girl's websites. Dont forget your barf bag.
Sick.
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hepburn
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posted on August 13, 2001 05:33:58 PM
It makes you wonder if the parents ever pay attention to what their daughters (and sons) are doing. Guess not, seeing those websites. And these girls are as young as 15. I didnt know salon.com was a porn site. Guess it is.
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krs
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posted on August 13, 2001 05:38:51 PM
Salon.com is reporting on the site(s) in question with an obvious sense od outrage. They are a news agency- an online newspaper.
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Hjw
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posted on August 13, 2001 05:49:52 PM
It's vulgar exploitation of teenagers by the newspaper, the parents and the children themselves.
Helen
to finish the sentence.
[ edited by Hjw on Aug 13, 2001 05:52 PM ]
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bunnicula
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posted on August 13, 2001 05:55:26 PM
Yes, the sites are elsewhere--this is just a news report with links. Outrage. Disgust. Call it what you will. Can't say I blame them after looking into what some of those girls are putting on their sites. Begging isn't the worst of it when you take the time to do that. 17 year-olds giving (& receiving) detailed descriptions of bowel movements. 15 year-olds bragging about taking drugs. Base-minded cesspools is a *kind* description of some of the sites linked to the article. Other girls with sites listed might just have well caused a large sore on a leg or cheek & squatted down with a bowl on the nearest city corner to beg from passersby.
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hepburn
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posted on August 13, 2001 06:15:02 PM
krs, one of the girls sites I looked at had her homepage hosted by salon. Thats why I commented on it.
Regardless of where they are hosted, its sleaze, plain and simple.
I guess its the "thing" nowadays to discuss body functions in order to be "cool". Or is "cool" even the correct word now? Never mind, I dont wanna know. I will stick with sleaze. Or smut.
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spazmodeus
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posted on August 13, 2001 06:59:00 PM
I guess its the "thing" nowadays to discuss body functions in order to be "cool".
American Pie 2 led the box office this weekend with something like $45 million in ticket sales. That tell you something?
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REAMOND
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posted on August 13, 2001 07:37:34 PM
Geeze- I didn't visit any of the sites. The article made them seem somewhat innocence and puffery - but talking about bowel movements ????
Sounds like borderline child porn to me.
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ZiLvY
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posted on August 13, 2001 08:02:02 PM
The links in the article connect to outright PORN...well, live and learn...I'd rather be a dunce!!
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gravid
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posted on August 13, 2001 08:08:14 PM
Reminds me of an article I read about Japan. In certain areas of Japan there are no specific laws against prostitution and some of the High School age girls make a game of seeing how much they can extract from middle aged men as escorts without actually having sex. Some of course go over the line.
Some behavior is timeless, but the internet makes it instant and more efficient.
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krs
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posted on August 13, 2001 08:12:13 PM
Hepburn,
I didn't go far and didn't notice that. There was only one site that I looked at, and my reaction to it was to be surprised that it had been operating since 1997. I also didn't see any of these really more 'hard' postings. I saw a few pictures of girls that looked somewhat innocuous and noticed that there were links to more extensive prurient interests.
While at dinner I decided to join up. Post a few swiped photos and wait for the payoff. Do you think that these men would think it strange that I had gun parts and machine tools in my wish list? 
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rawbunzel
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posted on August 13, 2001 08:12:21 PM
Dangerous as well as trashy. One 15 year old girl is asking for pictures of crotches so she can [can I say this here?] masterbate while looking at them. That will get her a lot of gifts I am sure but my goodness where are their parents? Don't they see these gifts coming into their homes and wonder about it?
This world gets sicker and sicker
edited because it is crotches...not critches
[ edited by rawbunzel on Aug 13, 2001 08:14 PM ]
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hepburn
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posted on August 13, 2001 08:29:21 PM
krs, I clicked on two or three, and that was enough for me. One girl showed her breasts, the other talked of body functions and one was talking about looking for some weed. It depressed me, to be honest. I felt bad for them, embarassed, and angry at their parents for not paying enough attention to know what they are doing on those computers they have in their rooms.
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spazmodeus
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posted on August 13, 2001 08:52:46 PM
While at dinner I decided to join up. Post a few swiped photos and wait for the payoff. Do you think that these men would think it strange that I had gun parts and machine tools in my wish list?
LOL. I thought of this too. Wondered how many of the "girls" were anything but.
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krs
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posted on August 13, 2001 09:03:24 PM
Yeah. I've been looking around in Amazon for the first time in a couple of years. I've got a whole new point of view!
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donny
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posted on August 13, 2001 10:01:06 PM
I'd read that article. I clicked on one of the links but it took too long to load and I got bored. It all sounded dumb anyway.
But, Salon.com isn't a porn site, and you don't have to actually click all the links to know that none of these girls' websites are hosted on Salon, holding your mouse over the links reveals the web addresses.
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jt-2007
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posted on August 14, 2001 12:05:14 AM
Nevermind.
Decided I don't even want to talk about it.
[ edited by jt on Aug 14, 2001 12:29 AM ]
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krs
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posted on August 14, 2001 12:21:47 AM
OKFINE!
(I saw your post below, Terri )
[ edited by krs on Aug 14, 2001 12:49 AM ]
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jt-2007
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posted on August 14, 2001 12:31:52 AM
Sorry KRS. I deleted before I even saw your post. This just isn't a good topic. I will leave it alone. No offense intended in my delete.
T
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uaru
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posted on August 14, 2001 04:17:53 AM
hepburn Or is "cool" even the correct word now?
I'm still using 'groovy' I never even thought to look for an expiration date. 
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hepburn
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posted on August 14, 2001 08:10:58 AM
lol uaru
I dont use groovy anymore, but I do say gnarly and b!tchin'
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bunnicula
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posted on August 14, 2001 08:18:08 AM
groovy is just fine--it's been around since the 30's which elevates it from faddy slang to part of regular language.
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uaru
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posted on August 14, 2001 08:25:22 AM
Actually I don't use 'groovy' anymore, I'm not sure if I ever did. After I posted that I did try it though to see what the reaction would be.
"Honey, you want any more coffee or can I have the rest?"
"You can have it."
"Groovy, I need an extra cup."
"Did you just say 'groovy'?"
She laughed at that. There's a bit of a generation gap between us. I believe 'groovy' was a buzz word before she was born.
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Hjw
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posted on August 14, 2001 08:25:55 AM
I have noticed a steady decline in the news content on Salon. The fact that the links were made available by Salon was exploitation in my opinion...What's it called, "yellow journalism?" Someting that you would expect to read in the National Enquirer.
Helen
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bunnicula
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posted on August 14, 2001 12:29:28 PM
No, what I expect to read in the Enquirer is fiction--they are famous for creating stories out of whole cloth.
As for the links provided in the article, that is how things are done today both on the Net & in print. Even here on the AW site people demand links to substantiate info! 
Blaming Salon.com is rather like blaming the messenger
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jamesoblivion
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posted on August 14, 2001 01:13:39 PM
At the risk of sounding like... I don't know what, these are all "other people's" children. Whose? I'm just curious, do the parents who think they know what their children are really doing -- really know?
Maybe it's not a really applicable question because the people at AW are probably more net savvy than average.
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Hjw
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posted on August 14, 2001 02:48:50 PM
bunnicula
You are right. It's not fiction. What I should have pointed out is that Salon is in financial difficulty and because of that, I read somewhere that they are focusing on sex and scandalous stories...more than in the past in order to attract readers.
The link to the financial info is
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20010809/tc/salon_changes_1.html
Helen
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