rawbunzel
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posted on December 8, 2001 09:45:49 PM new
I know some of you know about gun sales. What is the best way/place to do it and are older guns worth more than new ones on todays market ? [older meaning ww2 era not antique
Where can I find out values or what one could expect to get for a certain type of gun?
Is it better to hold on to it until we come out of recession or maybe better to keep it in case we don't? LOL
[ edited by rawbunzel on Dec 8, 2001 09:46 PM ]
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mybiddness
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posted on December 8, 2001 09:53:26 PM new
My husband doesn't think it's possible to have too many guns... he makes me nuts. But, he's got his dads WWII German Luger - absolutely gorgeous. It has all of the original parts, matching serial #'s and the original leather case... Of course, we'd never sell it but I've often wondered what the going rate would be - and how rare it is. Out of all of his guns that's the only one I like. Last year he bought me one - he didn't fool me though. I know it was his way of getting another gun without leaving me room to #*!@ about it.
Not paranoid anywhere else but here!
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rawbunzel
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posted on December 8, 2001 09:57:52 PM new
 I like guns too. Hubby has a WW2 Lahti [?]and I have a WW2 Walther P38 that is also real pretty ! My favorite is a Walther 380 SS.
You didn't know this about me,eh?
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mybiddness
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posted on December 8, 2001 10:11:51 PM new
No, I didn't! LOL I'm not much of a gun lover myself but I did buy my husband a nice 45 a few years ago. I had a friend of his pick it out for him. I hid it and then wrapped the bullet in a ring box and put it under the Christmas tree. As much as I've bitched about him and his guns he was really shocked.
I don't recognize the ones you're talking about. There must be a site somewhere that has values listed. I would think that this would be a good time to sell a gun - everyone being on such heightened alert and all. Just think, you could double your money and have John Ashcroft to thank for that. 
Not paranoid anywhere else but here!
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rawbunzel
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posted on December 8, 2001 10:16:35 PM new
Apparently only us girly girls want to know about this gun question. What happened to all the manly men? I figured I'd catch them while I saw a few here but they up and disappeared!
Mybiddness, you know I'm not going to thank Ashcroft for anything. You wishful thinker you! That would be about as bad as thanking Bush!!
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mybiddness
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posted on December 8, 2001 10:30:43 PM new
Robin, I'd ask my husband but he's snoozing on the recliner. Besides, I think he only knows where to buy guns... doesn't seem to ever know where to sell one at. LOL
Seriously, he does most of his buying and selling through the law enforcement community. I think most cops love trading one gun for another. And, they all swear they got a "great" deal. Yeah, right.
Not paranoid anywhere else but here!
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rawbunzel
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posted on December 8, 2001 10:33:40 PM new
I'd ask my husband but he is the one that wants to know!
The law enforcement community does seem to get good deals on guns. I have [yet another ] sister that was a police person for several years and she always got great deals too. And they were if what she told me was correct. They trade amongst themselves I think.
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twinsoft
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posted on December 8, 2001 10:41:42 PM new
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rawbunzel
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posted on December 8, 2001 11:01:04 PM new
Why Twinsoft, Here you are.
I just love a man who knows how to use a gun. or two. Sexy.
Too bad that's just a GIF.
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twinsoft
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posted on December 8, 2001 11:55:33 PM new
"Where's Twinsoft? I've got a gun!"
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twinsoft
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posted on December 8, 2001 11:58:38 PM new
Rawbunzel, your attempt to bait me is laughable. I was married to a drill sargeant in the Israeli infantry. 'Bet you didn't know that about me, eh? Nice try.
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rawbunzel
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posted on December 9, 2001 12:03:56 AM new
Bait you? Bait you!!! HA! Just a little piece of string dangling will work! LOL Don't need no stinking bait!
Sweety, There's a lot I don't know about you.....Sit right
down here and tell me all about yourself.
I'll be back later to see how you're doing.
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twinsoft
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posted on December 9, 2001 12:11:49 AM new
Put down the piece first.
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twinsoft
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posted on December 9, 2001 12:35:23 AM new
This is the gun I trained on.
Sexy, isn't it? It's a Galil, used by the Golani unit of the IDF. The handle folds up. This one might be an export model, because I've never seen one that didn't have a wooden stock. Not as accurate as an M-16, but sturdier.
I was an infantry medic in the IDF.
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krs
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posted on December 9, 2001 03:55:04 AM new
"Where can I find out values or what one could expect to get for a certain type of gun?"
There's a book known as "The Blue Book of Gun Values" that can guide you. It is typical of collectible valuation books in any realm giving extraodinarily high values at first glance with the methods of gauging condition almost overlooked. You know the type of thing that I mean and the valuations given are seldom tied to real market prices. A generic collectibles guide, probably the most widely consulted. The prices themselves fluctuate as do those in other areas, with items gaining and losing value throughout any time period just like other things do. Where a costume jewelry person might say that bakelite is 'hot' or going for good prices right now, so might a gun trader say that Garands are moving now. It can change quickly, sometimes in a matter of days but the prices follow trends upward or downward for a number of reasons. If the stock market is flat people will be buying gold, or art, or guns, or whatever as a hedge; when it's looking good in the market hard valuables fall off. Other factors can have affect as well. After the release of "Saving Private Ryan", for example, the prices of U.S. WW2 arms rose dramatically. Now that era is pretty soft. Nazi weapons are flat now too. For examples that are at the top levels of measured condition though, the prices seldom fall far. In the book that I mentioned you'll find marked differences in valuation between pieces which are rated 100% and those at 98%. It falls again at 95%. The methods used to rate weapons are widely understood and accepted in the trade. What may look to be in very good condition might rate honestly at 75-80% and be worth half or less what the same weapon would be in mint or 100% condition. Scarcity is always a determinant of price just like in all things.
Nothing special about guns as a commodity, and the traders are tough and hard to fool.
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rawbunzel
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posted on December 9, 2001 03:37:24 PM new
That's what I was looking for! Thanks KRS. Now, is there any place on the web that has semi reliable information about grading condition? How about fairly accurate pricing, and reliable auction sights that might be good to research?
That's a very nice gun Twinsoft. Not as pretty as my little ones but served its purpose no doubt.
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kcpick4u
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posted on December 9, 2001 04:18:56 PM new
Manions International Auction
www.manions.com
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krs
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posted on December 9, 2001 10:04:50 PM new
www.auctionarms.com, but be prepared for the Lahti getting minor attention and the P38 not much more. There were millions of P38s brought back, and Lahtis were not a mainstream representative war thing. The Walther is a maybe, but I can't tell you much just from what you said.
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rawbunzel
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posted on December 9, 2001 10:13:31 PM new
Well, those are the keepers anyway [except maybe the Lahti] .I love my P-38. My husband has a couple of others he is considering selling. I am not sure which ones they are. I'll send him to these sites and let him decide.
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antiquary
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posted on December 10, 2001 09:36:08 AM new
I knew that you had guns, rawbunzel, because you mentioned once, on another board I think, that your guns had never killed anybody; it was during a discussion about gun control. I didn't know that you were a collector though. All I have is the little 22 I used as a kid.
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rawbunzel
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posted on December 10, 2001 11:35:23 PM new
Antiquary, I remember the gun control thread.
My P-38 is from the WW2 era but I don't think it has killed anyone either. It was a forest service gun. Not a military issue. So I hope that my statement about my guns never killing anyone is still true. I hadn't thought about that. 
I am not much of a collector as I only have collected a few. I think three or more of anything makes a collection though so I guess by that critera I am.
My husband was the collector. He only has a few left as well.
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hjw
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posted on December 11, 2001 06:50:02 AM new
My husband has a gun which has never been used to kill anybody because I threw the shells in the trash.
You guys be careful. I wuv you all.
Helen
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