posted on July 2, 2002 04:47:10 PM new
since Mr Bush came into power he has succeeded in blitzing the budget surplus and the stock market has taken a nose dive.....how much more damage can this "idiot" do?
does anyone think it will turn around anytime soon? alot of people must be hurting specially 401k plans.
posted on July 2, 2002 04:58:14 PM new
He didn't just "blitz" it, he and his buddies swiped it. Recall that Americans, for the first time in a very long time, finally had some cash left over after their bills were paid. They took vacations, bought things that they've been wanting, and investing how they please. Then came Bush & Co. and with close friends like Enron, they literally sucked up the surplus for themselves, all our wealth into their private bank accounts. And Republican voters everywhere are dancing on tippy-toes at that!
posted on July 2, 2002 05:00:44 PM new
I truely find it amazing the current state of affairs I wonder if there are any stats to prove who has done what he has done in his first 18 months of power. I am sure he would have to be in the top 3 goofballs.
[ edited by mrfoxy76 on Jul 2, 2002 05:04 PM ]
posted on July 2, 2002 11:58:12 PM new
Seeing as how some provacative Tell-All books about Bush can't get a single publisher here in the United States to even consider releasing them in print, we'll have to wait until Bush, like Nixon, is disgraced and banished from his present office.
posted on July 3, 2002 08:48:38 AM new
He already is disgraced sooner or later someone will notice. The "liberal media" leads the silence; a few voices such as Maher have been silenced. I considered not posting this as my door may get kicked down any moment but like a child can't resist hurling a spitball. As to wall street the republicans have found a way to buy America for pennies on the dollar. This is straight out of the Neil Bush you can break a bank play book. His Cabinet is filled with the same CEO's who flushed us down the economic toilet for the gain of themselves and thier cronies. Compassionate Conservitism will probably be the only thing in America left working by the time they are thrown out of office.
[ edited by davebraun on Jul 3, 2002 08:55 AM ]
posted on July 3, 2002 09:54:49 AM new
Most of the things that have happened were all in the works before bush ever took office much of what has happened is the results of the last acts of the clinton follies and much of it due to there lack of policies.
posted on July 3, 2002 10:16:04 AM new"I considered not posting this as my door may get kicked down any moment but like a child can't resist hurling a spitball."
Hello DaveBraun! You are indeed brave! One can easily imagine that the posters here in the RT are on the Office of Homeland Security's Get-List that once our civil liberties are all gone, you and I and KRS and others will all simply be dissappeared into the night! When you concider that the White House announced last week that Americans DO NOT have a Right to their Constitutional Rights and Guarantees, you and I and everyone else all knows what is coming after that! That you have thrown in your lot with this group of protesting American Patriots means that you'll also be at the end of the firing line up against the Wall . . . so, you may as well stick around and put your two cents in wherever and however you see fit. You have nothing to loose, but your liberty!
posted on July 3, 2002 10:47:53 AM new
I'll tell ya this I have a day Job and I can also tell you this the Economy and the market was cooling off before bush ever got into office .
these things started showing weekness in mid 98 when the feds decided to incress the lending rates to slow down the stock market.
these terrorist problem we are haveing now link as far back as clintons frist term in office.
the biggest part of the budget gains came from a law suit settlements on tobbacoo companies moneies states ware to receive over a 10 year periode money the states made plans for spending months before they won the cases .
the state a local goverments seen the big $$$ individuals were makeing in the stock markets and greed fell in there eyes dumping all there retirement fund into stock and then losing there shirts on it.
fed wanted to hold down inflation that didn't exsit in 98 and 99 that is what brought thing to a near dead stop then 9/11 was made the scape goat for this mess.. http://www.Dman-N-Company.com
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posted on July 3, 2002 11:05:20 AM new
Hogwash. I was placing a chart of the market dips right here all during the months leading up to the election. They showed rises when polls indicated that gore was leading, dips when bush was. During the debates they would dip sharply with each followup poll, and during the fiasco they decidedly rose and fell in relation to the apparent success or failure of each move by bush. Mostly they fell. On inauguration day the market dove over 11% and it has seldom had even slight pickups since then. The man has created, all by himself, an uncertain world. The crap about "it was all coming down anyway" is just that - crap - coverup excuses for the only politician an ignoramus such as you could ever understand.
I made threads here, the first one was in March 2001 showing that Bush was doing anything possible to antagonize adversaries into action. Meanwhile he ignored, or he placed on hold while he "studied" each of the anti - terrorist moves and recommendations that had been developed during the previous administration. Maybe you don't recall the Gore commission on terrorism? Bush put a stop to everything that had the name clinton on it.
Now he has adopted back about half of the clinton policies he denied before, but he calls them his now.
I COULD go on, and I could prove every word. But I've already done that, several times over, and you've either ignored it, or you've issued forth with the same tired Rush Limbaugh inspired platitudes that you are spewing right now. I don't see any point in wasting any time on you. Go along in your ignorant happiness fol. Your president has led you to the brink of an economic disaster and a world wide war while you chatter along and drool at the announcers on fox TV.
posted on July 3, 2002 02:44:20 PM new
Yes, dman Gore did head that commission. But see what happened then. And you're right about the clinton administration not taking advantage of the offer of bin Laden's person being turned over to us during clinton's administration. They refused to accept him. So while so many are so quick to blame this whole mess on President Bush....clinton's hands aren't clean. But you'll never convince anyone here of that.
A presidential commission on airline safety formed in the wake of the July 1996 TWA 800 disaster diluted its recommendations to tighten security procedures after the major airlines donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to the Democratic Party, the Boston Globe reports.
Less than two months after TWA 800 exploded in a fireball over the ocean off Center Moriches, New York, the Gore Commission issued an ambitious set of proposals, including baggage matching and enhanced training for airport screeners.
But the airlines complained that the new procedures would be too time consuming, exacerbating delays and missed connections.
Days after the new recommendations were announced, major air carriers made a series of contributions to the Democratic Party:
TWA: $40,000
American Airlines: $265,000
Delta: $120,000
United: $115,000
Northwest: $87,000
In all, the airlines gave the Democratic Party $585,000 in the closing weeks of the Clinton-Gore administration's bid for a second term...."
Former FAA inspector general Mary Schiavo pointed to a quid-pro-quo, saying that the political contributions helped the airlines avoid expensive new requirements.
A former FAA chief, Billie H. Vincent, and two Gore Commission members, Victoria Cummock and Kathleen Flynn, told ther paper they agree with Schiavo.
posted on July 3, 2002 02:55:02 PM new
Try to dig deeper than that, and you'll find that there's a lot more to both of those paintings you're hawking than you care to show. But you already have seen the other sides right in here, lindak, and chose to buy into the same old tired diatribes offered each day by take your pick of favorite talk show hosts.
posted on July 3, 2002 03:08:18 PM new
aaah but yes, you know more than those running our government.
There's no excuse why when the offer to hand bin laden over was made, we couldn't have accepted it and question him, just like we are doing with the other terrorists we believe have been involved in the terrorist attacks against America. clinton dropped the ball.
newsmax.com is where both of those pieces of truth came from.
posted on July 3, 2002 03:36:04 PM new
No, the offer wasn't just made out of kindness you know, and what an outcry if clinton had accepted the terms. Try to remember who had control of the house in them days, eh? Same as today. While your at it try to remember the house response to poor al's proposal, along with the ACLU and an assortment of other interest groups. and see how much money they got from the airlines. Totals over ten times the paltry amount given the dems.
And it was a former republican somehing or other who I heard on one of the stations going through from here to WA the other night who said that there's no way that bin laden could have organized that incident. He didn't say who he thought did, but did say that it had to have been a major military force with good intelligence services to do it. I think he was implying that the Saudis are behind it all. Name was Woolsey or something. It's all you hear on the radio in the middle of the night up there is freeper whackos.
You'll all be so proud to hear that I listened to Rush's entire show yesterday from Redding through past Sacramento. His main topic was the Tennessee gov't shutdown - see? I proved it. That's the first time I've ever listened to the yoyo all the way through a show.
the woolsey guy was on the way up; I had it backwards
[ edited by krs on Jul 3, 2002 03:38 PM ]
posted on July 3, 2002 07:29:27 PM new
Well el Bush made one of those orchestrated sickening displays of pap in Milwaukee.
Visited several supposed churches where government money rolls in to buy off Uncle tom minorirty leaders.
a filthy stinking combat zone where hordes of police worked day and night to prevent drive bys while the hanging chad was there staging his publicity stunt. 27 th and center has not been a fit place for human beings since 1967, this guy just demonstrated that no act is to low for him.
posted on July 3, 2002 09:31:16 PM new
Welcome DaveBraun! The more people that speak out against what Bush and gang are doing to our country, and what we thought were our rights and freedoms the better!
So they round us up, and try to silence us. That will just prove we were right. I don't think it will come to that though, because more people like you will be brave enough to come forward. It's taken a while, but it will come day by day.
posted on July 4, 2002 12:03:51 AM new" That's the first time I've ever listened to the yoyo all the way through a show."
Really? Gawd! I've tried it several times, but the distortions coming out of that guy's mouth would do Gobels justice and I could never do more than 45 minutes or so. What a slick liar he is. I'd rather listen to a whole Savage Nation episode of Liberal Bashing than listen to the clever distorions of the facts that Rush gives. You really have to be outright stupid to believe a word that that guy says.
