posted on July 3, 2002 03:23:16 PM new
While Bill's off 'dating' Aussie bombshell TV star Charlotte Dawson, Hillary has new problems of her own.
New York Sen. Hillary Clinton surely hopes that history isn't repeating itself with the raid conducted by the FBI last month on another warehouse, this one chock-full of documents from her 2000 senatorial campaign.
"The documents were seized in a May 30 raid of a California storage facility containing documents of Peter Paul, the entrepreneur who funded Hillary Clinton's Senate campaign with over $2 million in direct, in-kind contributions which were never reported by Hillary Clinton or her Senate campaign, as required by law," revealed the public interest law firm Judicial Watch in a press release late last week.
posted on July 3, 2002 04:23:02 PM new
To see what? That Hillary can't swindle, lie, and cheat as much as the Republicans can? Recall when Bill's 1996 campaign was being investigated for the same thing? It turned out that the independant auditors ALSO found MORE of the same problems with fund rasing in Bob Dole's campaign. The next day, a Republican Congresswoman said quite smuggly to the media: "We're going to have a closed-door session with those auditors, and when they come out, they'll say that they made a Big Mistake!" And guess what? After the Closed-door session, the independant auditors came out and confessed that they ahd Made a Mistake. After that, all calls to investigate Bill's fundraising were silenced, because they didn't weant any more press about the CORRUPTION in Bob Dole's fund raising.
I'm not saying that Hillary is a Saint, and no one ever has, but it is HYPOCRITICAL pretend that the "other sside" is doing something that your side isn't also taking advantage of! and Ohhhhh! The S-M-E-A-R Value just can't be beat! That's how Republicans like to work anyway -- while they steal all of the taxpayer's money!
posted on July 3, 2002 04:37:42 PM newI'm not saying that Hillary is a Saint, and no one ever has,.... LOL well that's good, because if you did no one would ever believe another thing you said.
but it is HYPOCRITICAL pretend that the "other sside" is doing something that your side isn't also taking advantage of
You accusing me of being hypocritical? hahahahaha What a joke. You constantly use this forum to bad mouth things you usually can't or won't prove. You call the President of the US anti-american and I can't post an article that concerns Hillary who probably will run for that same office in the near future.
Do I believe most all politicans do things they shouldn't? Sure....but it appears to me that this forum only tolerates hearing the 'wrong' the Republican's are doing. It works both ways, Borillar.
The S-M-E-A-R Value just can't be beat! That's how Republicans like to work anyway -- while they steal all of the taxpayer's money And exactly what is it you do here all the time with the Bush administration?
posted on July 3, 2002 05:03:16 PM new
The newsmax scum site gets it's stuff from wherever it can - it's full of draws from more legitimate sources. But picking and chosing presents a convenient view, now doesn't it?
You might note that the vagaries of campaign finance are seldom brought out here by borillar or anyone but you, lindak, because we know enough to know that there is no scandal in commonly accepted practices. However distasteful they may be, they are not illegal as late reporting of insider trades are, for example.
posted on July 3, 2002 05:39:50 PM new
You crack me up. When you are challenged on the 'leaning' of your source...you say it doesn't matter who is reporting it...it's the story that matters. Not the source...the story.
When someone else does the same thing..you #*!@.
Which is it? It's only allowed when you're doing it.? LOL
And you're getting desperate to pull up a 12 year old subject and harp on it now? Like NearTheSea asked, why if this is true hasn't he been arrested? I mean they've had 12 years to hang him. Maybe he's like clinton and hillary who have people who cover things up for them.
Yep, been reading that bill and hillary are now starting to pay some of their lawyer fees and pay different sums of money to the people 'who supported them' during all the different investigations they were involved in. Did you hear Susan McDougal is driving around in a very expensive new car? Living the life of luxury.....and gosh...just a couple of years ago she was destitute.
Go figure.
Bye
Kind of the same thing as slick willie's deeds being
posted on July 3, 2002 07:23:07 PM new"You accusing me of being hypocritical?" Etc."
Linda, you are taking this all too personally. I know that you enjoy making personal attacks, but you can't assume that everyone else is low enough to do the same thing back to you. If possible, how about examining a bit of logic: a) no matter what you write, you can't posibly smear anyone in political office. Nor are you the one that is making an investigation into Hillary's finances. Ergo - the comments can not be about you! Therefore, I had to be directing my comments to the Topic and the Content of the Topic, Linda, not you which is against community guidlines!
As far as which politician or political party that I choose to bad mouth - that's my right to do so, even though, as you've previously stated in the RT, you think that exercising your First Amendment Rights is anti-American if it is directed at the President.
"Like NearTheSea asked, why if this is true hasn't he been arrested?"
Umm . . . weren't YOU the one asking that question? I seem to recall finding it beneath me to even dignify that question with any kind of an answer. Certainly NearTheSea can and does occasionally ask a naieve question, but because she's always been extra polite on here, I take whatever pains that there needs to be to explain it to her when she asks me a question. Read into that comment whatever is appropriate.
posted on July 3, 2002 08:01:08 PM new"And you're getting desperate to pull up a 12 year old subject and harp on it now?"
Hardly. It's front page news TODAY, which you'd know if you woke up, lindak. The media kinda' feels like it's strange to have a president going around lecturing people about corporate responsibility when he himself can be shown to be not just irresponsible but lacking integrity, dishonest, and even possibly criminal.
(pretty hard for them to do much to the president's son if his daddy says don't, which was the case when the subject irregularities occurred)
As to your accusation that I "you say it doesn't matter who is reporting it...it's the story that matters. Not the source...the story".
Maybe you'll point us to a place where I said those things?
posted on July 4, 2002 06:21:03 PM new
i dont think it is nice to bring out the physical appearance of anyone,especially a lady.
especially a wife of ex president,a senator and a mother.
posted on July 4, 2002 07:41:31 PM new
stopwhining
I agree with you. It's certainly wrong to try to discredit or disparage anyone based on any aspect of their appearance. But, in this case, I believe that someone was making a wise crack without seriously intending to disparage or discredit Hillary.
What is really wrong here is Linda_K's effort to dredge up from a questionable source an allegation about something as common as a campaign finance irregularity. Major, reputable newspapers didn't even print this trash.
posted on July 4, 2002 10:59:31 PM new
She Helps the economy, after all I'm making t shirts with her picture and the wording
''Never Trust Anything that Bleeds for 5 days and doesnt die""
posted on July 4, 2002 11:09:18 PM new
I am rarely offended Auroranorth but your last post....
"She Helps the economy, after all I'm making t shirts with her picture and the wording
''Never Trust Anything that Bleeds for 5 days and doesnt die"
.... is surprisingly offensive to me.
posted on July 4, 2002 11:13:36 PM new
Well, I think that it is GOOD that Linda points out that Hillary may have some no-nos going on in her political skeleton closet. It's good to remind us all that even non-Republicans lie, steal, and cheat us and that we need to all do something about it, that is, after we've ejected these fascists from power. Remember, WE are the Fourth Branch of Government! We are part of the Constitutional Equation and the politicians know this and try to make us feel that we are powerless. Yet, collectively, only WE can cause Constitutional Amendments to happen, only WE can remove a politician from office, even if they don't get caught with any wrongdoing. Oh, yes! Don't let the stupid bastards tell you that WE are powerless -- we aren't!
What I think everyone objects to is that Democrat politicians aren't being HYPOCRITS by acting like as if they don't do the same things as the Republicans do. At least the Democrats aren't pretending to be Holier Than Thou! Recall that Newt Gingrich was having an extra-marital affair, while at the same time, he was pointing a finger at Clinton and SMEARING him for his sexual escapades. And he wasn't the only Republican politician pointing fingers and acting as if they weren't doing just the same thing!
So, really, it is nice to know that Hillary is the usual politician that we all know about and is no cleaner than anyone else. But then again, Who the hell was making that claim in the first place?
sp.
[ edited by Borillar on Jul 4, 2002 11:16 PM ]
I'm offended by 60 billion missing dollars from our savings and loans.
I'm Offended by her constant attempts to destroy the 2nd amendment.
I'm offended by the fact that Her and Bills atty supposedly commmits sucide in a park and 2 US Marshalls are sent to retrieve all the evidence. and these same 2 are sent less than 24 hours later are sent by someone in power to waco texas where they are the first 2 shot in the back.
I'm offended by the fact that the bullets are missing.
I'm offended by sending a Helpless Cuban child back to the arms of a marxist dictator.
I'm offended by her and her old mans stripping the poor of financial assistance and then passing the buck to lay it on the feet of the republicans.
I'm offended by US Citizens who sell weapons technology to the red Chinese for campaign contributions.
I'm offended that a draft dodger sits in the White House making deals with Vietnam while we have thousands of POW MIA' s
I'm offended that draft dodger were pardoned when nothing was done for the KIA or DIA soldiers.
I'm offended that some movie stars are rich from their contacts while they spent the war stabbing our troops in the back.
I'm offended by the fact that they are still at it and would love to do it again.
Oh thats me sorry I'm still on pain meds, but I'm not that naive Borillar
Still wondering why there wasn't any full congressional investigation on all that you say Bush has done, I mean, the Dems have the majority up there don't they, or didn't they?
posted on July 5, 2002 01:52:02 PM new
NearTheSea - Thank you, it's appreciated.
And no, I never said it anywhere.
I don't know how you were able to pull that thread up. I've tried using the URL given here before to do so, but I keep getting error messages.. so I appreciate your post.
posted on July 5, 2002 04:58:02 PM newIt's a matter of context
No, it isn't. What does a woman's menstrual cycle have to do with *anything* you were talking about? I sincerely doubt that if a male politician had been under discussion that gender insults would have been forthcoming. And your use of it in this context in no way compares to shirts joking about the wearer having PMS...apples & oranges.
edited for spelling
[ edited by bunnicula on Jul 5, 2002 05:04 PM ]
posted on July 6, 2002 07:41:20 PM new
Carvilles job? LOL! I doubt that! I've never heard him disparage an entire group of people like you did. Sorry, Auroranorth but your post was not only tasteless it was a slam against all women. It was not a "political satire" kind of a thing.
posted on June 9, 2002 08:50:13 AM
"this leads me to believe that you don't believe America has a system of justice and courts to deal with him if he's committing so many of the crimes you accuse him of."
Now, I didn't read that Jimmy Carter thread, NearTheSea, I just made a quick comment at the bottom of that thread. So are you refering to
http://www.auctionwatch.com/mesg/read.html?num=28&thread=151608
posted on July 2, 2002 08:47:37 PM
"Ok even though I took these white pills to make me sleep before I have to get up at dawn and be put to sleep again... I'm groggy, but if he's doing this insider trading, and whatever and not reporting it, and I'm sure ya'll have a bunch of other immoral, and illegal things you say he's done. I don't care how much 'pull' you think he does have, why have they not done a thing about it??? Hello? why in Gods name if the dems thought it was a rigged election, why oh why have they not started official federal investigations???? Why oh WHY haven't they uncovered his secret plan to become Hitler II????????"
Is that the one? It wasn't addressed to me, Linda. Had NearTheSea asked me specifically, I'd have tried to answer her on the above quote.
BTW, NearThe Sea - go look at my recent thread herre http://www.auctionwatch.com/mesg/read.html?num=28&thread=152059 to answer your question above: "Why oh WHY haven't they uncovered his secret plan to become Hitler II????????"
posted on July 7, 2002 12:32:02 AM newWell this may come as a surpirse but effective political satire is supposed to tick someone off.
True. But you were not engaged in "political satire." Political satire attacks the beliefs or actions of a political figure, party or government agency. Not their biology.
By your logic, "political satire" would encompasses conjecture on the size of a politician's penis, flatulence, breast size, hair or lack thereof, etc.
Did you really have to quote the litte white pills thing here? They were sedatives prescribed for me, before surgery. Just to make it clear I'm not constantly on drugs.
Ok?
posted on July 7, 2002 01:33:29 PM new
Some of you whiners remind me of the college professor who told the class to allbring in a urine sample.
The next day they did and then he told then that todays lesson was on observation.
He out a finger in the glass then he licked his finger and instructed the class to do as he did.
the thought that they did.
when they were done he said if you paid attention you will notice that I dipped my small finger and licked my big finger.
I said
Never trust anything that bleeds for 5 days and doesn't die.
other posters felt that it was neccessary to have added the references to womens bodily functions.
The statement is open to the interpetation of the beholder, it is actually what I refer to as a rare form of higly prized political verbal art!
For all you know I could have been talking about Their attorneys sucide where he was found bleeding in the park or I could have been talking about the bodies left at Waco.
Or I could have been talking about How the forensic experts that examined ron bnrowns body said there was a bullet hole tothe base of the skull from dying in a plane crash.
posted on July 7, 2002 01:56:48 PM new
I would have licked my big finger too. Stupid I am not.
Sorry Auroranorth, that's called backpeddling. You meant it just as we took it. Don't continue to be a boor about it. You shouldn't have said it, you did, it was pointed out to you....all done now. OK?
posted on July 7, 2002 02:43:10 PM new
Yeah, right. The dead attorney lay bleeding in the park for five days & didn't die...the dead whackos in Waco bled for five days and didn't die. Please. That's the lamest ass-covering I've seen in quite a while.
sorry I'm still on pain meds, but I'm not that naive Borillar 
Stupid I am not.