posted on September 26, 2004 05:48:45 PM
It's not farfetched at all. Some liberals would like to do exactly that. Note I say LIBERALS, not necessarily Democrats. Many Democrats are Liberals, but not all of them.
I have perfect proof. Posted right here in the RT just a few hours ago in a different thread;
"All religion should be banned." - quatermass.
Can anyone argue the meaning of that simple statement? I doubt it.
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posted on September 26, 2004 06:09:22 PMreplaymedia said, "It's not farfetched at all. Some liberals would like to do exactly that. Note I say LIBERALS, not necessarily Democrats. Many Democrats are Liberals, but not all of them." "I have perfect proof. Posted right here in the RT just a few hours ago in a different thread; "All religion should be banned." - quatermass.
Can anyone argue the meaning of that simple statement? I doubt it.
I can argue the fact that a Liberal didn't make it.You not only take the words of just one individual to justify your claim but you don't know what party quartermast supports. He has said that he is not a liberal.
In fact, he said "Liberals wouldn't know compassion if it bit them in the behind."
And, he said, How come it is always good when a liberal jackass like Moore makes money but it isn't allright for anyone else to, according to Democrats? The rich are evil in their eyes, but not Hollywood. You're all a bunch a two faced pieces of trash.
He said, HELL YEAH!!!!!! I can't wait to see the cry baby liberals come to this board and start crying that bear1949 is unfair and all of us are uncaring...lol
Do those sound like comments from a Liberal or a Democrat?
posted on September 26, 2004 06:20:00 PM
It's unbelievable that any group of people would be so villainous. It's really discouraging that truth doesn't matter any more to so many people...not even to the President of the United States.
posted on September 26, 2004 06:45:04 PM
Same writer - taken from the NYT.
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"The mailing seeks to appeal to conservative evangelical Protestant pastors and political leaders who say they worry that legal rights for same-sex couples could lead to hate-crimes laws that could be applied against sermons of Bible passages criticizing homosexuality."
"Conservative Christian political commentators often cite the case of Ake Green, a minister in Sweden who was jailed in June for a month for a sermon denouncing gays as sinful[/i]."
"[i]Mr. Parker, of the Interfaith Alliance, said, "I think it is laughable to think that someone could be arrested for reading out loud from the Bible.''
But Richard Land, president of the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention, argued, "We have the First Amendment in this country which should protect churches, but there is no question that this is where some people want to go, that reading from the Bible could be hate speech[/i]."
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And I fully agree. That IS where those fighting to remove God from our Pledge, our coinage, etc...are also the people who support this legislation. The article is just making more aware of that fact.
People might think it fair that it be made a hate crime to speak out against gay sexual relationships. But those who practice their faith and believe it IS wrong...WOULD be in jeoprady should that law pass. Just like everything else...one step at a time they intrude on the rights of others while claiming to only be asking for their own 'rights'. But it goes over the line and starts removing the 'rights' of others....and imo, shouldn't be passed.
"The Republican Party acknowledged yesterday sending mass mailings to residents of two states warning that "liberals" seek to ban the Bible. It said the mailings were part of its effort to mobilize religious voters for President Bush."
linda, Your irrelevant article with bolding all over the place is confusing. Are you saying that you agree with the mailing mentioned in Maggies article?
posted on September 26, 2004 07:11:38 PM
Campaign literature mailed by the Republican National Committee warns voters in two states that the Bible will be prohibited and men will marry men if "liberals" win in November.
The New York Times reported that the mass mailing was sent to voters in Arkansas and West Virginia, and was part of a GOP effort to mobilize religious voters.
The literature shows a Bible with the word "BANNED" across it and a photo of a man, on his knees, placing a ring on the hand of another man with the word "ALLOWED." The mailing tells West Virginians to "vote Republican to protect our families" and defeat the "liberal agenda."
The Times said RNC spokeswoman Christine Iverson had confirmed that the GOP had sent out the mailings.
Again, Do you support this mailing, linda? I couldn't really tell with your copy paste answer.
posted on September 26, 2004 07:19:09 PM
I am a Christian and it saddens me that the republican party thinks of itself as the party of Christ. Sure Jesus would not be for abortion or gay marriage and either am I, but he was no conservative either.........infact he was more liberal helping the sick and poor.
It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God." (Matthew 19:24)
posted on September 26, 2004 07:23:18 PM
I am a Buddhist and a Christian, (and yes you certainly can be both). Contrary to popular belief, Buddhism is not a religion, it is a way of life.
If this was put out by the Republican National Committee, shame on them.
posted on September 27, 2004 08:52:55 AM
Why should anyone be shocked ?
These are the same Bushtards that said John McCain broke down as a POW and gave information to the North Vietnamese about our military and his fellow prisoners.
They also told the people in the South that McCain adopted a "black" baby.
Lying about Kerry's service record is yet another desperate attempt.
posted on September 27, 2004 09:39:26 AM
Yes, kerry who was one of those siding with our enemies. And many of our POWs said his words/his groups words were used as they were tortured. McCain DID break ...not easily ...and certainly most can understand exactly why he did. Most would have LONG before he did.
Kerry is to blame for part of that....how could the POWs believe the US was still behind them when kerry was supporting our enemies.
McCain forgave john kerry for his actions....some of us haven't...never will. and don't want a traitor as our President.
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As for the success of Kerry's anti-democracy protests and his leadership of the VVAW and association with Fonda's Winter Soldier Investigation, General Vo Nguyen Giap, Vietnam's most decorated military leader, wrote in retrospect that if not for the disunity created by such stateside protesters, Hanoi would have ultimately surrendered.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3, which states, "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President ... having previously taken an oath ... to support the Constitution of the United States, [who has] engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."
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posted on September 27, 2004 09:51:08 AM
And I find it VERY ironic that while the lefties here say this is scare tactics from the right....they overlook and excuse kerry's scare tactic emails sent to college students telling them if President Bush is re-elected...they're most likely going to be drafted in 2005. Like THAT wouldn't be a huge concern to all the young men and women now in college, who received those from the kerry campaign?
But that's okay...even though it's the democrats in Congress that have proposed a new draft. President Bush doesn't support a draft...he believes we can offer enough benefits that will encourage those willing to serve our country, to enlist.
As for the success of Kerry's anti-democracy protests and his leadership of the VVAW and association with Fonda's Winter Soldier Investigation, General Vo Nguyen Giap, Vietnam's most decorated military leader, wrote in retrospect that if not for the disunity created by such stateside protesters, Hanoi would have ultimately surrendered.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3, which states, "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President ... having previously taken an oath ... to support the Constitution of the United States, [who has] engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." --George Washington
posted on September 27, 2004 11:14:25 AM
Maggie ,this is where Kerry goes wrong....he tells the truth ...he and a lot of others don't know if we'll need a draft.
BUT bush will say we don't and just wait.....if he's elected we WILL have the draft!
We WILL need more troops and more troops and more troops as he attacks country afetr country.
posted on September 27, 2004 12:02:52 PMthey overlook and excuse Kerry's scare tactic emails sent to college students telling them if President Bush is re-elected...they're most likely going to be drafted in 2005
How is this any different than Cheney saying the USA is more likely to be attacked if Kerry is elected?
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posted on September 27, 2004 02:36:28 PMand don't want a traitor as our President.
That's how warped the right's thinking is. Calling a decorated war hero a traitor for redressing the wrongs of his government, but think it is OK to have a military deserter and liar for commander-in-chief.
BTW, it makes no difference whether McCain admitted to breaking down while a POW. The point is that the Bushtard fascists were calling prospetive voters and telling them that mcCain aided and abetted the enemy while a POW.
Bush and his minions are disgusting and an embarassment to America.
posted on September 27, 2004 02:52:13 PM
The way is see this is a simple scare tactic against the less informed, and weak minded.
Who would ban the bible if the democrats win in November? The government? How would it be enforced? The bible is a part of a religion, and with that in mind, the government can't impose any the banning of it. Also, the government can't ban it in the fact it can be printed at any time, under Freedom of Press.
Again, nothing more than a scare tactic used against the weak minded. It's pretty simple. The repugnants found a button to push and they are pushing it.
Bigots are miserable people. Prevent Bigotry through Education.
posted on September 27, 2004 05:15:22 PMThat's very interesting, Linda.. are you sure?
Yep...since most here believe you to be intelligent I'm sure you're capable of pulling up information on this yourself. Just reference college students receive emails ...and you'll see this new round of an old email that kerry supporters are mailing to college students.
And on top of that you might want to search for kerry, h. dean and max cleveland's statements this last couple of weeks [on the draft if Bush is elected]...that pretty much claim the same thing. So...yes, I have no doubt kerry or his supporters are behind this again.
posted on September 27, 2004 05:20:12 PMwere calling prospetive voters and telling them that Kerry aided and abetted the enemy while a POW.
reamond - I'm glad to hear word about kerry's actions while our soldiers were still fighting and dying and being held POWs is finally getting out. I hope more learn of his pro-communist actions during that war. Will show them another reason why he wouldn't make a good CIC.
As for the success of Kerry's anti-democracy protests and his leadership of the VVAW and association with Fonda's Winter Soldier Investigation, General Vo Nguyen Giap, Vietnam's most decorated military leader, wrote in retrospect that if not for the disunity created by such stateside protesters, Hanoi would have ultimately surrendered.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3, which states, "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President ... having previously taken an oath ... to support the Constitution of the United States, [who has] engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." --George Washington
posted on September 27, 2004 06:43:49 PM
LOL - We can be absolutely positive that President Bush, no one from his campaign nor HIS supporters would have put this old email out online again. Many sites are referencing it.
And as I said...it's real funny how kerry, dean and cleland would all be saying the same thing this old email is saying. Try ABC for kerry's comment on the draft. Try howard deam on 9-20-04 on the draft...and max cleland on the draft around the same time. They're all claiming it.
Then again you could check out the Selective Service site since they've had soooo many call on this email to check whether it's true or not. OF COURSE, it's not true....but that doesn't stop kerry from trying to scare college students.
It's scare tactis...just like the dem do EACH election cycle about Social Security....scare those retired people.
posted on September 27, 2004 06:53:42 PM
So now you believe that Kerry is trying to scare school kids? linda, by making such outrageous statements like this is it any wonder that so many people are now questioning your posts?
Dam...any number of people can create spam email without the knowledge of Kerry or the Kerry campaign.
Prevent Bigotry through Education.