posted on October 7, 2004 01:35:56 PM
News report last night showed the increase in heating costs across the board here in Oregon.
Electric can expect 5%
Natural Gas can expect 12%
Heating Oil up to 25%
I am very happy we are moving in less than 2 months. Last year, when gasoline prices were at about $1.75 a gallon, we paid about $1.60 for heating oil. Today, gas is about $2.12 for regular unleaded in Portland, and I can expect to pay close to 2 bucks a gallon for our heating oil. Ouch!!!
Electric in this part of the country seems to be much cheaper than the others.
We can thank the good old Bush policies for these record rate increases. I can also guess this will be a topic of debate coming up real soon.
posted on October 7, 2004 01:59:55 PM
You can thank 4 hurricanes that caused the evacuation of all Gulf of Mexico production rigs for the rise in oil prices.
Hey, hey Ho, ho Kerry - sign the 1-8-0
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The person who has nothing for which he is willing
to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
--John Stuart Mill
posted on October 7, 2004 02:56:23 PM
"You can thank 4 hurricanes that caused the evacuation of all Gulf of Mexico production rigs for the rise in oil prices."
As President, part of your job it to ensure the ability to be prepared for the fluctuations caused by mother nature. 4, repeat FOUR hurricanes didn't cause this problem. You better check your Hurricane tracker charts to verify that information.
Bush's policy has shown once again how his Administration has no plan to prepare ahead. His actions have put our country into a situation that has led to these increases.
posted on October 7, 2004 03:03:40 PM
Of course, everything is President Bush's fault...even things he can't control like four hurricanes. LOL Or the excessively high world consumption that's going on.
But kerry will make everything in the whole world better. How?? Well...we're not quite sure because he doesn't usually tell us...he just continues to blame this President.
NO president can control the oil prices. And I just LOVE to hear the lefties complain about it's cost. They don't want us relying on foreign oil, but they don't want us to drill for our own either. They'd like us to use more alternative sources of energy...you know the one's that are so expensive no one can afford them either. Very complex situation.
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"I will never submit America's national security to an international test. The use of troops to defend America must never be subject to a veto by countries like France. The President's job is not to take an international poll -- the President's job is to defend America." --President George W. Bush
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posted on October 7, 2004 03:18:23 PM
listen to the guys who run the oil tankers,the price hike is real.
They are busy as bee running back and forth delivering oil to different parts of the world,it is not just some hedgefunds playing the commodity market.
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posted on October 8, 2004 07:53:39 AM
release oil meant for national emergency so we can do our joyride?? to drycleaner,to supermarket ??
dry less,plan more or we can always walk!!
-sig file -------Life is one big happy 'All You Can Eat' buffet .
posted on October 8, 2004 08:08:50 AM
reamond Wrong. Clinton did by releasing oil from the SOR.
And just how many pennies did that lower our gasoline prices? Maybe 2 cents a gallon?
Mean while we're at WAR, reamond....the clinton administration wasn't. The original point of setting aside the reserves in the first place was to have them in case of EMERGENCIES.
This is NOT an emergency and reducing the cost by only pennies isn't going to help one bit anyway.
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"I will never submit America's national security to an international test. The use of troops to defend America must never be subject to a veto by countries like France. The President's job is not to take an international poll -- the President's job is to defend America." --President George W. Bush
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posted on October 8, 2004 08:27:20 AMEnergy Prices Climb up to 25% projection
While huge amounts of oil and natural gas sit in the ground in Alaska because democrats won't let us drill it.
So if there is oil under every state in the US we should destroy and pollute the environment every chance we get.
ALL politicians need to stop bowing to special interest groups and start looking for other sources of fuel and coming up with better fuel economy in our cars and trucks.
There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." —George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002
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On This Week with George Stephanopoulos, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld declares: "the area… that coalition forces control… happens not to be the area where weapons of mass destruction were dispersed. We know where they are. They’re in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat."
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posted on October 8, 2004 09:09:49 AM
logansdad said:
So if there is oil under every state in the US we should destroy and pollute the environment every chance we get.
Who said there was oil under EVERY state? I've never heard anyone say that.
And if you don't want our environment here affected, then the left is just going to have to quit bitching about the cost and pay it. Anyway, with the up-to-date technology we have today there isn't the kind of pollution that happen with the older refiners.
You're paying this much so the carabu in Alaska can enjoy not being disturbed. I'm sure they appreciate your willingness not to share even a tiny part of their land because you're willing to pay the higher prices so they won't be.
Same with all those coastal areas who don't want to have to look at the oil platforms from their front windows either. You're making the extremely rich very happy by not ruining their unlimited views.
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"I will never submit America's national security to an international test. The use of troops to defend America must never be subject to a veto by countries like France. The President's job is not to take an international poll -- the President's job is to defend America." --President George W. Bush
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posted on October 8, 2004 09:20:23 AM
linda, a true neocon....doesn't have a clue about drilling for oil and it's impact on the environment nor does she care.
posted on October 8, 2004 09:31:18 AM
You know Linda, you need better reading comprehension skills.
Who said there was oil under EVERY state? I've never heard anyone say that.
Neither did I. It was used an example.
If there was really oil under every state, oil companies would probably want to have drilling rigs set up everywhere.
You're paying this much so the caribou in Alaska can enjoy not being disturbed.
So you care more about oil companies making profits at the expense of the environment. I guess you don't want your grandchildren to see a caribou. Do you know what has happened to the buffalo and panda populations? Have you heard about the effects of destroying the rain forests?
If you don't care about the environment maybe you will allow an oil company to set up a drilling rig in your backyard.
Crow, I couldn't have said it better myself.
There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." —George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002
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On This Week with George Stephanopoulos, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld declares: "the area… that coalition forces control… happens not to be the area where weapons of mass destruction were dispersed. We know where they are. They’re in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat."
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posted on October 8, 2004 09:49:10 AM
logansdad - Has nothing at all to do with wanting the oil companies to make money.
It's YOUR problem....bitching about the cost when you are a large part of why oil costs so much, the constant restrictions the left place on our ability to make it cheaper.
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"I will never submit America's national security to an international test. The use of troops to defend America must never be subject to a veto by countries like France. The President's job is not to take an international poll -- the President's job is to defend America." --President George W. Bush
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posted on October 8, 2004 10:05:17 AMAnd just how many pennies did that lower our gasoline prices? Maybe 2 cents a gallon?
Clinton was able to lower the price of heating oil by more than a few cents, and lower heating fuel was the intent of releasing the oil from the SOR.
The oil reserves in Alaska are small and would only serve to enrich a few people at the expense of the federal wildnerness area, which belongs to all of us.
posted on October 8, 2004 10:05:47 AM
A person has to actually go out in the environment, take nature walks, see birds and animals and look at plants, etc to truly appreciate what we have in this world. Take time to look at a beautiful blue sky and breathe in fresh air. Then you would never want it raped, plundered and destroyed forever..... most people wouldn't anyways.
posted on October 8, 2004 10:26:29 AM
We're leaving billions of dollars worth of oil and natural gas sitting in the ground in Alaska. And the thousands of jobs that would be required to extract it. Damn shame.
posted on October 8, 2004 10:31:01 AMHas nothing at all to do with wanting the oil companies to make money
That is pure B.S. Linda. It has everything to do with oil companies making money. They control the supply of oil and gasoline. If there is a high demand and low supply, gas prices will be higher. Simple economics.
Have you forgotten how lawmakers looked into the reason for the high gas prices just a couple of years ago? They wanted to know why the prices were so high - to see if was the oil companies restricting supply.
This also happened with natural gas a couple of winters ago here in the Midwest. The cost of natural gas skyrocketed. After the citizens utility board looked into the reason, they found out the natural gas companies did not buy enough so they could raise prices.
If you want to believe otherwise then show me one oil company that is in the business to loose money while helping the environment.
There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." —George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002
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Let's have a BBQ, Texas style, ROAST BUSH
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On This Week with George Stephanopoulos, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld declares: "the area… that coalition forces control… happens not to be the area where weapons of mass destruction were dispersed. We know where they are. They’re in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat."
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posted on October 8, 2004 11:15:28 AM
NO, logansdad, WITH ME it has nothing to do with the oil company profits. Don't ever think you know what I'm thinking.
MY point was not about the oil companies. I was commenting on how the LEFTIES #*!@ no matter what. And that they're the major cause of why we can't get more oil from our own land, sea-shores,etc. The more oil available for production....the cheaper the price. No way of getting around that. When the environmentialists BLOCK the drilling for more oil...they LIMIT the amount available.
So pay the prices we're charged, quit bitching and understand that American's have LONG paid a MUCH lesser price for our fuel that do other countries.
You can't have it both ways...block our own oil production, not want us to kiss up to the Saudi's so they'll produce more oil and help keep the prices lower FOR OUR USE..and then complain about the prices. It's a choice...you can't choose to do away with two of them to get cheaper oil prices. It could be worse. We could REALLY piss of SA and they'll vote with OPEC and really show you how high oil prices can be.
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"I will never submit America's national security to an international test. The use of troops to defend America must never be subject to a veto by countries like France. The President's job is not to take an international poll -- the President's job is to defend America." --President George W. Bush
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posted on October 8, 2004 11:18:15 AM
The neonazicons, like linda, know only one way to get what they want or solve a problem......destroy something...anything...just get what you want !
Cave men, neanderthals, brutes and bullys , everyone of them.
Never use your intellect just bulldoze your will onto to those who differ.
posted on October 8, 2004 11:21:40 AM
I disagree, reamond.
When the prices get high enough we will finally start conserving...drive less...carpool more..turn the themometer down...etc.
We're way too spoiled and for a long time as the oil prices have been increasing...the consumption has been increasing too...NOT decreasing. Everyone complains...not many changed their bad habits of over using.
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"I will never submit America's national security to an international test. The use of troops to defend America must never be subject to a veto by countries like France. The President's job is not to take an international poll -- the President's job is to defend America." --President George W. Bush
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posted on October 8, 2004 11:48:34 AMWhen the prices get high enough we will finally start conserving...drive less...carpool more..turn the themometer down...etc.
At the time of the first Gulf War, I heard a lot of people say if gasoline prices reached $2.00 a gallon, I would stop driving....How many people actually have? This was before the time of Hummers and big SUV's.
I heard the same thing today about cigarettes. How much is it for a pack today - $6, $7 per pack? Yet people still continue to smoke.
There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." —George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002
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Let's have a BBQ, Texas style, ROAST BUSH
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On This Week with George Stephanopoulos, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld declares: "the area… that coalition forces control… happens not to be the area where weapons of mass destruction were dispersed. We know where they are. They’re in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat."
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posted on October 8, 2004 01:13:04 PM
Its become HILARIOUS watching compulsive Bush supporters blowing wind and smoke like a Hurricane trying to defend their failed leaders. HEY,HEY,HO,HO, you boys and girls give me LOL.
AMERICA CAN'T STAND 4 MORE YEARS OF THE BUSH/CHENEY GANG.
posted on October 8, 2004 01:31:08 PM
Bush Energy, Military Plans Linked
In its pursuit of petroleum, the United States is intruding in the affairs of the oil-supplying nations. In the process, it exposes itself to increased risk of involvement in local and regional conflicts. This reality has already influenced U.S. relations with the major oil-producing nations and is sure to have an even greater impact in the future.
At no point does the NEP acknowledge this. Instead, it focuses on the economic and diplomatic dimensions of the energy policy. However, the architects of the Bush-Cheney policy know that ensuring access to some oil sources may prove impossible without the use of military force. The administration's military strategy takes up the slack with heavy emphasis on bolstering capacity to project firepower to key battlefields abroad. "The United States must retain the capability to send well-armed and logistically supported forces to critical points around the globe, even in the face of enemy opposition," states its Quadrennial Defense Review.
There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." —George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002
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Let's have a BBQ, Texas style, ROAST BUSH
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On This Week with George Stephanopoulos, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld declares: "the area… that coalition forces control… happens not to be the area where weapons of mass destruction were dispersed. We know where they are. They’re in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat."
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