aintrichyet
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posted on March 1, 2005 02:10:04 AM new
" -- The latest item to be banned from airplanes may have a lot of people fuming.
Lighters are no longer allowed beyond security checkpoints or on commercial flights.
The Transportation Security Administration says the ban includes butane lighters, absorbed fuel and even novelty lighters.
The new policy will be fully enforced beginning April 14th."
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twig125silver
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posted on March 1, 2005 02:30:50 AM new
Some smokers get very, very irritable when they have to go 6-8 hours without a smoke....since you can no longer smoke in airports and have to arrive 1-2 hours early to check in, add in flight time and there you are. Smokers are definitely the most dangerous lot of people there are..
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aintrichyet
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posted on March 1, 2005 04:27:34 AM new
boo hiss
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dblfugger9
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posted on March 1, 2005 05:08:58 AM new
What about match books? lol!?
Man, they are making us into one scared and mummifed nation.
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classicrock000
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posted on March 1, 2005 05:48:14 AM new
I wonder if I could get by with a blow torch
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replaymedia
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posted on March 1, 2005 05:52:25 AM new
Matches are still legal. It's the "explosive" possibility of lighters that has them worried.
All this foolishness and our borders are still open. Go figure,
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dblfugger9
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posted on March 1, 2005 06:12:59 AM new
::All this foolishness ::
Replay, I agree. I dont think its so much for our safety; as much as for them to have a CYA all around policy so they cant get blamed for anything going wrong.
I think its a outright sham. Were making our own flight transportation system into a conglomerate of not trusting 'any Americans' to just be friggin traveling!! Everybody everthing is a national terror suspect.
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CBlev65252
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posted on March 1, 2005 01:36:20 PM new
Have they nothing else to do? I don't even fly anymore. I consider some of what they pull a gross invasion of privacy and I want no part of it. A doctor friend of mine is middle eastern American. He went to go through security not so long ago and was stopped. Although he speaks Arabic fluently, he never does in public. The person at the scanner, took one look at him and called the person in charge of security. Anyway, the security person in charge kept him there trying to get him to speak it. They detained him for no other reason but the color of his skin. He stood his ground and refused. He was born here. He didn't feel like much of an American that day.
What's next? Umbrellas with points on the end of them? Perfume because it is flammable and if they allow matches. . . If you want to bad enough, you can turn just about anything into a weapon. Just ask some of the people serving time behind bars. This is just more nonsense.
Cheryl
"No drug, not even alcohol, causes the fundamental ills of society. If we're looking for the source of our troubles, we shouldn't test people for drugs, we should test them for stupidity, ignorance, greed and love of power." ~ P.J. O'Rourke
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profe51
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posted on March 1, 2005 01:41:10 PM new
Shame on all of you. Why, the government is trying to protect us, and all you do is gripe! My goodness...
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logansdad
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posted on March 1, 2005 01:44:12 PM new
Did you see how the TSA is having a pilot program at 5 airports where people can mail back their personal items if the TSA would normally confiscate it? There is a machine where you purchase a padded envelope and postage for $7-$8 and you address it back to yourself.
Personally I think it is better than having the government take your stuff, but to pay $7.00 for it is outrageous.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
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Bush will fix Social Security just like he has fixed Osama Bin Laden and Iraq. Bush can't be trusted to run this country and you want to trust him with your retirement?
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NearTheSea
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posted on March 1, 2005 03:01:43 PM new
Profe, I ain't complainin
Time for a ROAD TRIP anyway! Takin the scenic route all the way back east. Thats the way to travel! (and I'll be taking my lighter and pipe lighter, and ummm hmmmm pipe lighter, no I don't smoke no pipe  )
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classicrock000
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posted on March 1, 2005 03:06:09 PM new
I have agree with the prof on this one.The government is trying to protect you and you complain about it.
"'Have they nothing else to do? I don't even fly anymore. I consider some of what they pull a gross invasion of privacy and I want no part of it"
Tell ya what cheryl, next time ya do fly and ya find yourself heading into the Sears building in Chicago, email me on your portable pc and tell me how it feels just knowing your going to be a crispy critter because you didnt want your privacy invaded.
As far as your friend goes,well hes middle eastern-weather hes born here or not,he's still a suspect.ALL middle easterns should be checked-have you forgotten the World Trade Center already?? Those people who flew into the World Trade Center werent Italians,nor were they Irish,or French,or Swedish..they were middle eastern. If your friend doesnt like being checked out-too damn bad..tell the assh*ole to hitch hike next time.
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CBlev65252
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posted on March 1, 2005 03:23:26 PM new
Classic
I think Prof was being fecesious. I suppose you do know what that means. What a bigoted thing to say about middle easterners. Dr. Y is just as American as you or I.
Only middle easterners are terrorists? Hmmm, they have quite a few of Irish descent in Ireland. How about those in Israel? Get a grip.
There are terrorists here in this country that are not of middle eastern descent. Timothy McVeigh comes to mind. McVeigh - Irish or Scottish descent.
Cheryl
"No drug, not even alcohol, causes the fundamental ills of society. If we're looking for the source of our troubles, we shouldn't test people for drugs, we should test them for stupidity, ignorance, greed and love of power." ~ P.J. O'Rourke
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classicrock000
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posted on March 1, 2005 06:20:31 PM new
cheryl-I dont see any Irish or Israelites crashing planes into buildings killing almost 3,000 people attacking our country do you?
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Linda_K
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posted on March 1, 2005 07:45:16 PM new
I think banning lighters is silly too. So...big deal, put them in your suitcase...you can't smoke in the airports anyway.
But I do understand the reasons behind it. I agree with classic and don't think we need to be harassing old people and women either. Spend the time and money on those who have attacked us....and those who have promised to do so again.
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fenix03
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posted on March 1, 2005 09:23:40 PM new
:: So...big deal, put them in your suitcase...you can't smoke in the airports anyway. ::
Not true. There are a number of airports in the nation that do have smoking areas. Sure they are inhabited by 20 figiting people blinking up a storm because at any given time there is the equivalent of a pack of cigarrettes burning in a 10 by 10 room with lousy venthilation but they are our territory where we are safe from the ridiclous whining of the self righteous and we love love them!!
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If it's really "common" sense, why do so few people actually have it?
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Libra63
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posted on March 1, 2005 09:46:47 PM new
Cheryl I will tell you where umbrellas are banned. At NFL football games. We learned the hard way....
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Linda_K
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posted on March 1, 2005 11:14:18 PM new
fenix - You are correct in that some airports do allow smoking in certain areas...but more and more are forcing smokers to go outside the terminal to smoke...they don't have 'smoking areas' inside the airport. Even the Honolulu airport which is almost totally an open air airport....restricts smoking.
I frequently fly to CA and one large hub has ONE designated smoking area....in a bar...where you have to order a drink in order to be in there.
Another large hub allows no inside smoking....you have to go outside...and there are very FEW exits that are within a miles walking distance.
Since matches are still allowed....I just don't see what the big issue is over lighters.
Besides....one doesn't even need a cigarette....all one needs do is go inside one of the designated areas and inhale.
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stopwhining
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posted on March 2, 2005 03:26:15 PM new
I just returned from overseas and going thru security checks- i see most people like me removing coat,shoes,pocket change etc and you know damn well most are not terrorists.
I have not heard lately if they have found any suspect at the airport??
cuticle scissors are confiscated ,you can replace it for 99 cents at 99 cents only store.
anything can be used as weapon,think of the credit card,we can probably slash someone wrist and gourge their eyes out with the edge of these credit cards,esp AMEX!!
How about spike heels?
How about watch??
how about farting?what kind of gas is that?methane??
some jewelry -ankh pendant would be one.
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classicrock000
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posted on March 2, 2005 03:50:17 PM new
"just returned from overseas and going thru security checks- i see most people like me removing coat,shoes,pocket change etc and you know damn well most are not terrorists."
Most are not, but all it takes is ONE.
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classicrock000
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posted on March 2, 2005 03:51:44 PM new
"I have not heard lately if they have found any suspect at the airport?? "
No they have not-and you know why??
Because of the security mesaures you just mentioned.
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stopwhining
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posted on March 2, 2005 05:49:57 PM new
I think the reason we have not found any terrorist is that they are running out of money!!
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logansdad
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posted on March 2, 2005 06:12:33 PM new
I think the reason we have not found any terrorist is that they are running out of money!!
I think the reason is because the TSA wouldn't know what a terrorist looks like even if their ID said Osama Bin Laden.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
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Bush will fix Social Security just like he has fixed Osama Bin Laden and Iraq. Bush can't be trusted to run this country and you want to trust him with your retirement?
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stopwhining
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posted on March 2, 2005 07:02:01 PM new
we have a large middle eastern population,many businesses run by middle easterners catered to their own kind are really hurting,esp the high end stuff such as spa and salon and restaurants and furniture stores
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