posted on March 12, 2005 08:37:49 AM new
Kennedy says bankruptcy law would hurt veterans
By Jannette Neuwahl
Bankruptcy legislation pending before Congress could push military personnel returning from Iraq and Afghanistan into financial crisis, US Senator Edward M. Kennedy told a group of veterans and their advocates yesterday.
Kennedy said he will oppose the legislation, designed to make it harder for people to declare bankruptcy and force many to pay back whatever debts they can.
For veterans facing bankruptcy, the legislation ''will come out more on the side of the creditors in terms of harassing these extraordinary individuals," Kennedy said. ''These are not the spendthrifts, these are not the Enrons, these are not the WorldComs that have abused the bankruptcy system -- these are people that are serving our country, and I'm going to do everything I can to make sure that that bill does not pass in the United States Senate the way that it is."
Kennedy spokeswoman Laura Capps said that Kennedy plans to testify in the Senate today against the bill. In 2003, 16,000 soldiers in active duty filed for bankruptcy across the nation, she added.
Kennedy cited the experiences of two military personnel from the Bay State, Marine Lance Corporal James Crosby, 20, of Saugus, and National Guard Sergeant Peter Damon, 32, of Brockton, both of whom joined him yesterday at an event he held to discuss the transition soldiers face when they return home.
Crosby and Damon returned from active duty in Iraq with debilitating injuries -- Crosby is paralyzed from the waist down and Damon lost both his arms -- that hamper their ability to perform manual labor. As a result, both men face mounting debts and diminished job prospects. They urged Kennedy to enhance benefits to veterans by supporting House legislation that would increase the pay of soldiers who are injured and to file bills that mandate the immediate distribution of disability checks.
''Since being hurt, it's definitely impacted and changed my life dramatically," said Crosby. "At the time [you are taken out of combat] the fight is not over -- you are fighting for your life and your whole life has been disrupted, which is the time when you need the money the most."
There are tens of thousands of veterans filing for bankruptcy each year because they lose income while on duty, Kennedy said. The proposed bankruptcy law would increase that figure as more troops return from Iraq, he said.
Noting the dramatic decrease in pay when their reserve and guard units are called up, Kennedy said: ''In the instances where the guard and reserves are drawn into the service and they are the principal provider of a small business, more often than not, they are going to be facing bankruptcy."
Most of the meeting at Blue Cross Blue Shield's Fenway headquarters focused on increasing awareness about services available to veterans -- including career and family counseling, housing help, medical assistance, and education.
Damon, 32, a former electrician who lost both arms repairing a helicopter tire in Iraq, said he was worried he would never be able to make money again. The father of two admitted yesterday he had no idea that veterans were able to get free tuition to state colleges. This fall, he plans to enroll.
''It's good to see all the people that showed up and were interested in helping veterans [today]," he said. ''It's nice to know that people care.""""""""
EXCEPT for the Republicans who said NO to bankruptcy protection for VETERANS !!!!!!!!!!!!
posted on March 12, 2005 09:09:52 AM new
Evidently Kennedy and crowfarm are on the same page. Do you think she drinks as much as him. I hope he is sober when he testifies. Following is the last part of the OP which is a positive side
Taken from the OP....
Noting the dramatic decrease in pay when their reserve and guard units are called up, Kennedy said: ''In the instances where the guard and reserves are drawn into the service and they are the principal provider of a small business, more often than not, they are going to be facing bankruptcy."
Most of the meeting at Blue Cross Blue Shield's Fenway headquarters focused on increasing awareness about services available to veterans -- including career and family counseling, housing help, medical assistance, and education.
Damon, 32, a former electrician who lost both arms repairing a helicopter tire in Iraq, said he was worried he would never be able to make money again. The father of two admitted yesterday he had no idea that veterans were able to get free tuition to state colleges. This fall, he plans to enroll.
''It's good to see all the people that showed up and were interested in helping veterans [today]," he said. ''It's nice to know that people care.
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posted on March 12, 2005 11:59:43 AM new
My goodness....quiet as a "graveyard " in here........repugs sure don't have much to say about the screwing the Republicans feel fine with giving our veterans .....how anti-American they are
They must not support the troops the way they've been bragging they do.
posted on March 12, 2005 12:01:22 PM new
My goodness....quiet as a "graveyard " in here........repugs sure don't have much to say about the screwing the Republicans feel fine with giving our veterans .....how anti-American they are
They must not support the troops the way they've been bragging they do.
posted on March 12, 2005 03:05:36 PM new
double posts, misspelled word. Are you on the sauce again crowfarm or yet.......
from your post truth omnce again
No that doesn't answer my question. Kennedy the alchy doesn't have a chance in you know where to get it changed. Did you see the positive I posted from the end of Kennedys amendment...
posted on March 12, 2005 03:41:13 PM new
The lala says, "No that doesn't answer my question. Kennedy the alchy doesn't have a chance in you know where to get it changed. Did you see the positive I posted from the end of Kennedys amendment..."
First: if you can't read the whole post it answers the question of why they may file for bankruptcy.....sorry you can't read yet.
Second: I see you sound happy that kennedy couldn't get the Repugs from voting against the vets....how Anti-American you are! You must be against supporting the troops!
Third:So the end of the ARTICLE (not ammendment) is positive...so?
The outcome was the Repugs voted against the VETS!
Or do you think it's a positive thing that that guy lost his arms for YOU!
posted on March 12, 2005 05:53:18 PM newLibra - The bill that passed in the Senate does include special provisions for disabled soldiers returning from war. And the other vets can and will be using the same system than everyone else will...IF they can pay part of their debt...they will. If they can't they won't.
posted on March 12, 2005 08:42:03 PM new
Linda K, wonderful news that wounded vets were not forgotten in the new Bankruptcy laws. How about a link to that fact. I would enjoy reading how compassionate and foresighted the republicans are that passed the new bankruptcy law. I and I am sure many others will be waiting your reply with a link to this wonderful news.
BTW, While your doing your research (that you are so good at) see if any special consideration has been given to the non-wounded vets that have had to file Bankruptcy because of their service in the military. You must be wrong that the compassionate and foresighted republicans have not thought about the non-wounded vets. So many of your troops have been asked to give up so much because of their unusually long deployments. I just can't wait to see that my hopes have come true and all is well with ALL our Troops.
I am sure that a lot of people want to read about this wonderful news so please don't keep us waiting to long.
[ edited by bigpeepa on Mar 12, 2005 09:01 PM ]
posted on March 13, 2005 12:45:47 AM newSo many of your troops have been asked to give up so much because of their unusually long deployments. I just can't wait to see that my hopes have come true and all is well with ALL our Troops.
Please they are not just my troops. They are everyone's. You have a problem bigpeepa that you don't know how to word sentences. How old are you anyway 21. You need to go back to english class and take a few lessons.
If they didn't want to go to war then why did they sign up with the National Guard?
posted on March 13, 2005 05:28:42 AM new
Libra63, your right my English isn't the best. Plus I have no excuse for it either because when I went to school the schools weren't underfunded like they are now under this White House.
I am hoping with your advanced search skills you can find where in the new republican bankruptcy laws our wounded and non-wounded troops have been given consideration. To this day our troops have been ordered to serve unusually long deployments. Looks to me like this White House has made a "HARD JOB" for our troops and their families not only in Iraq but at home also.
Libra63 you asked this question about our troops
Libra63 words, "If they didn't want to go to war then why did they sign up with the National Guard?"
Your question is easy to answer. They signed up because at that time they didn't realize what a poor job this White House would do running a war. Now our military has not been able to meet their recruitment goals.
OVER 1,600 DEAD,OVER 10,000 WOUNDED AMERICAN TROOPS AND STILL COUNTING WITH NO END IN SIGHT.
posted on March 13, 2005 06:13:41 AM new
libra, I can't say you don't have a lot of nerve telling someone else they should sharpen their skills....
""Please they are not just my troops. They are everyone's. You have a problem bigpeepa that you don't know how to word sentences. How old are you anyway 21. You need to go back to english class and take a few lessons."
YOU of all people...you're almost illiterate !!!!!!!!!
DUH! English is spelled with a big "E" Libra, oh great master of the English language HA!
posted on March 13, 2005 06:40:30 AM new
ANOTHER great English major heard from ! Ha!
Ms. Gibberish herself !
Read the sentence again very slowly...so sorry it was so confusing for you but then so much is.
posted on March 13, 2005 07:59:46 AM new
I am waayy better at it than you, crowchowder.
You meant to say, "Libra, you have a lot of nerve." What you typed is, you don't have a lot of nerve..." Just because you prefaced it with, "I cant say", doesn't change the meaning. You Dumb sh*, you!
posted on March 13, 2005 08:41:30 AM new
No, I'm not 'upset'- Ha! You're just stupid crowfarm.
You like correcting others with presenting this pompous b.s. attitude, but half the time you dont even know how to articulate what you do WANT TO SAY...never mind worrying about what you caunnt say.
posted on March 13, 2005 08:49:11 AM new Merrily we pull a string, pull a string..
Merrily we pull a string...and watch the puppet dance...do da do da....
posted on March 13, 2005 08:53:04 AM newCrow go to your room for 35 minutes, for using a double negative in your sentence!
Crowchowder...
Speaking of Libra... has anyone else noticed how spunky and feisty she has been lately!
She's been fighting back like a little pit bull puppy! Go get 'em old girl!
posted on March 13, 2005 10:26:01 AM new
Hey ladies, my English is not very good because in school I found it a whole lot more fun playing sports and chasing CHEER LEADERS. If I had it all to do over again, I would make the same choice.
Hey White House supporters crowfarm's post was about the new republican bankruptcy law and how it effects American Troops. Now all you FOOLS can do is blow smoke about someones spelling.
I AM SO GLAD THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE PAYING MORE ATTENTION TO WHAT THIS WHITE HOUSE IS DOING TO THEM.
posted on March 13, 2005 10:55:15 AM new
Oh peepa - Are you not able to pull up the Senate site yourself and read what's in this bill THAT ALREADY PASSED THE SENATE - 74-25? Looks to me like dems ALSO voted to pass this bill.
Are you also not aware that soldiers called to war have certain protections from 'creditors' under OTHER laws? If not, I'm just so sure you're quite capable of learning for yourself just what those laws are and won't be requiring me, one you constantly insult, to do it for you. You're a big boy now.
Because ol' kennedy says something in a certain way....doesn't mean it's all true. He didn't mention how they ARE already covered from debtors. surprise, surprise.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Four More Years....YES!!!
posted on March 13, 2005 11:35:36 AM new
"""Because ol' kennedy says something in a certain way....doesn't mean it's all true. He didn't mention how they ARE already covered from debtors. surprise, surprise. """"
I heard it from another senator who was THERE...YOU were not.
Even if there are laws in place WHY would Republicans vote against anything that would help the veterans ????????????????????????????????
Maybe because they're liars about REALLY suporting the troops.
Like YOU!
Why wouldn't YOU, in your fervor to support the troops, be in favor of any additional benefits they get ???
Boy, are you ever anti-American and hard-hearted !!!!!!!
posted on March 13, 2005 12:02:48 PM new
Linda K, You are the biggest phony I have ever seen. You are just pissed because people have seen straight through your lies. You have no answers about this post and have no room talking about insulting people.
Linda K said, "Are you also not aware that soldiers called to war have certain protections from 'creditors' under OTHER laws"
I guess your words didn't help the 16,000 active duty soldiers that filed for bankruptcy in 2003. I am sure all they got was more BULL ROAR from people like you.
BULL ROAR AND MORE BULL ROAR IS ALL WE HEAR FROM THIS WHITE HOUSE AND PEOPLE LIKE LINDA K THAT SUPPORT IT.
Give it up Linda K the American people are seeing through this White House and people like you.
Merrily we pull a string, pull a string..