Linda_K
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posted on March 12, 2005 10:59:40 AM new
You're looking for a home. You found what you believe is the PERFECT home for you.
It's the right size, decorated just the way you like, right in the middle of the price range you were hoping to pay, nice area, great relative small town, shopping and hospitals nearby, very close to where your only daughter and grandchildren live, you've read the 'disclosure form'......it's EVERYTHING you'd hope to find.
Your offer is accepted....You go home, start packing up your belongings....escrow is to close in two weeks. You've given notice on the place you've been renting...all appears to be going perfectly.
THEN - You get a call from the sellers agent informing you that there is an admendment to the sale agreement. And that admendment is notification that your perfect house was built right over an old grave yard where the tombstones were all removed....but the bodies/caskets are all still there graves.
My question - [after all that  ] - is would you go through with the deal...or back out? And why.
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classicrock000
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posted on March 12, 2005 11:16:26 AM new
I'd back out...my with luck crowfart would be buried there.
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davebraun
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posted on March 12, 2005 11:16:36 AM new
It would depend on what state it is in. Timeley disclosure is required in most states and I do not believe that this is timely. I would not be comfortable in this matter. I would seek legal council from a proffesional who deals with real estate law. I would also wish to see a survey map of the location of graves etc. as it may impact sewer lines and future building. I would also invesigate health issues, and on and on. I wouldn't want to live on top of a bone yard it'd give me the creeps.
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crowfarm
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posted on March 12, 2005 11:25:46 AM new
Why, linduh, are you craving attention ?
Well, here's the third post to help your attention craving along.
Look everybody, linduh posted ....she must want attention ! Let's help her out !
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kraftdinner
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posted on March 12, 2005 11:44:41 AM new
If there were no health issues (formaldehyde), it wouldn't bother me. It would be gross if you had to dig to put in fencing or something and a hand popped out. If it's a really old graveyard, I doubt there'd be much left. Legally, if the owners didn't disclose this before the deal was signed, I imagine it would be void. Is this a true story Linda?
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Linda_K
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posted on March 12, 2005 11:51:09 AM new
I advised my friend to do the same thing, dave.
I think either one of two things was going on. Either the seller and the listing agent knew that had they disclosed this 'up front' their offers might be limited...or nil.
OR The seller never planned on disclosing it at all. The listing agent, who has lived across the street all of her life and DID know the history of the house...and got cold feet and decided before escrow closed...she wanted to protect herself legally.
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I was interested in hearing if it would bother people to knowingly live over a grave yard. Or if it wouldn't bother then at all. My friend really freaked out and even the thought.
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maggiemuggins
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posted on March 12, 2005 11:53:56 AM new
No...Not a chance in hell...just the thought of it gives me the creeps.. and it better have city water and not a well.. LOL.. imagine my three dogs digging for bones!!!!LOL
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Linda_K
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posted on March 12, 2005 11:57:13 AM new
Yes, KD, she backed out of the deal - and the seller gave her deposit back to her. But she's in a true mess right now. Has to get out...and no place to go yet. I suggested she put her 'stuff' in storage and stay with me until she can find another home.
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Linda_K
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posted on March 12, 2005 12:03:32 PM new
maggie - That was an issue for her too. She has a hound dog that's always digging. EEK!! And who knows when these people were buried...they could be in caskets or not.
She had plans to build a sunroom and to fence the property in so her dog 'Chopper' could play in the yard.
She's asking everyone she knows if it would bother them because her daughter believes she's over-reacting. I gave her my answer, but was just curious to hear others thoughts too.
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fenix03
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posted on March 12, 2005 12:06:01 PM new
I would have a soil report done and check into foundation stability but in terms of "creeps" factor... that would not play into it in my mind.
Besides ... think of the great Halloween parties you could have 
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If it's really "common" sense, why do so few people actually have it?
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Linda_K
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posted on March 12, 2005 12:16:46 PM new
LOL fenix - That's a good one but you'd have to know my friend...she's easily 'spooked' and this was the worst thing for her to handle, especially so soon after losing her husband. She said she wasn't ready to join her 'Charlie' just yet. But she really LOVED this home.
We discussed this for three days before she made up her mind on what to do. But her daughter and I finally agreed that in HER case, this wasn't going to work.
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On the locations of the graves...the realestate agent [hers] did a search and while the grave yard is in town/county records...they said there could be anywhere between 8 - 30 bodies that might be buried there. [one acre lot]
The house is in town...so water generally isn't from a well. Country homes use wells.
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CBlev65252
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posted on March 12, 2005 02:08:58 PM new
No, way, no how would I buy it. How did they get permits to build over a cemetery to begin with? I find it all very odd. Health concerns (ground water, etc) would be my main concern. Ghosts? Heck, I have them in my house and other than occasionally turning my computer on or playing with my bedroom touch lamp, they don't bother me. I could live without being awakened in the middle of the night by the light coming on, though. I couldn't be a part of the disrespect.
Cheryl
"No drug, not even alcohol, causes the fundamental ills of society. If we're looking for the source of our troubles, we shouldn't test people for drugs, we should test them for stupidity, ignorance, greed and love of power." ~ P.J. O'Rourke
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dadofstickboy
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posted on March 12, 2005 02:47:28 PM new
Go ahead and buy if it fits your needs.
As long as the sale is legal who cares.
Make believe you never knew.
They're the the best neighbors you'll ever have.
I lived for years on a property that had a cemetery in the back yard,never once did they complain about anything I did.
You didn't run away scared when you went to look at it.
Just keep in mind when landscaping, not to buy any plants that you will need to dig very deep to plant.
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replaymedia
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posted on March 12, 2005 03:16:51 PM new
I realize it's too late for your friend, but this is just an amazing story. "You want the house? GREAT! Did I happen to mention before about the old indian graveyard?"
I guess it really all boils down to HOW LONG ago these people were buried.
1980? Youch- Don't dig a swimming pool. (Poltergeist).
1950? The boxes are still going to be strong and fully intact even if the contents are questionable.
1875? Probbaly nothing left, but there were lots of deaths from Cholera, yellow fever etc. You just never know!
Old indian graveyard? Don't got there! (Pet Sematary)
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kraftdinner
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posted on March 12, 2005 03:18:45 PM new
What if she wanted to put in a pool? What's she suppose to do with the bones if she ever digs any up? How old is the cemetary Linda?
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classicrock000
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posted on March 12, 2005 03:31:11 PM new
"Besides ... think of the great Halloween parties you could have"
yea crow could be the witch
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classicrock000
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posted on March 12, 2005 03:32:35 PM new
"They're the the best neighbors you'll ever have. "
LOL !
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fenix03
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posted on March 12, 2005 03:34:01 PM new
I can understand the swimming pool concern but law for decades has stated 6 foot depth for burial so just how deep do you people plant your plants and fence posts?
Great root nutrients for the trees though.
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If it's really "common" sense, why do so few people actually have it?
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dadofstickboy
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posted on March 12, 2005 03:38:25 PM new
but law for decades has stated 6 foot depth for burial
Remember that is the depth of the hole!
After incerting coffin,vault, or whatever, you're only talking 2-1/2 to 3 ft. below the surface!
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Linda_K
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posted on March 12, 2005 05:43:47 PM new
cheryl - How did they get permits to build over a cemetery to begin with? I find it all very odd. YOU find it odd....LOL...of all things that can go wrong when purchasing a home...how many times do you think THIS becomes an issue.  I found it hysterical myself. And listening to her go on and on about how she'd feel living on top of all those dead people has kept me in stitches.
I'm a little short on all the details....as my friend was only focused on that fact she was told...not all the history. But some owner/builder was given a permit to build on the property at one time [don't know when] but had agreed to remove the bodies and put them somewhere else. But guess they didn't do so and [way back whenever] that builder WAS fined by the town/county. Not sure which. So they did pay for doing this. But the house was already built and obviouly no one forced them to take it down.
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KD - on the age of the cemetary, I don't know...she didn't say. But I should be speaking to her on Monday....and I'll see if she was given any more details that what I've shared.
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yellowstone
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posted on March 12, 2005 07:23:57 PM new
I'd amend my offer to a lower price. Fairs fair right, now that is what being fair is all about.
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Helenjw
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posted on March 12, 2005 07:37:10 PM new
"I suggested she put her 'stuff' in storage and stay with me until she can find another home"
Poor woman...... left to choose between a cemetery and linda's place.
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classicrock000
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posted on March 12, 2005 07:48:16 PM new
lol...sorry Linda,but that struck me funny
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crowfarm
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posted on March 12, 2005 08:27:03 PM new
Both spooky..... and souless.........
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CBlev65252
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posted on March 13, 2005 06:04:51 AM new
Helen, that was funny!
Cheryl
"No drug, not even alcohol, causes the fundamental ills of society. If we're looking for the source of our troubles, we shouldn't test people for drugs, we should test them for stupidity, ignorance, greed and love of power." ~ P.J. O'Rourke
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Linda_K
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posted on March 13, 2005 11:16:17 AM new
classic - Don't be sorry....laughter is good for the soul and our health.
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crowfarm
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posted on March 13, 2005 11:38:01 AM new
Is that why you LOL so much?
Trying to reagain a healthy soul?
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classicrock000
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posted on March 13, 2005 12:17:12 PM new
yea-you should try it once a year
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kraftdinner
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posted on March 13, 2005 12:49:40 PM new
LoL Helen! It could be worse... her friend might be a democrat. Can you imagine LIVING with a republican? Especially one that's brought you into their home and you have to be agreeable with or you'll get kicked out.
P.S. Yes Classic, that goes for your wife as well.
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crowfarm
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posted on March 13, 2005 01:01:13 PM new
I think if her "friend" was a little more SELF-RELIANT she wouldn't need help.
But I think the whole story is BS anyway....linDUH needed attention.
Oh, that's right, I forgot...I'M the only one in here who posts for attention....everyone else posts to exercise their key-boarding skills.
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