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 bigpeepa
 
posted on June 13, 2005 12:34:27 PM new
Updated: 11:35 AM EDT
Republican Lawmakers Urge Shift in Iraq Plans
By Vicki Allen, Reuters

BELOW ARE THE RESULTS OF THE QUESTION ASKED ABOUT THE IRAQ WAR

Has your opinion about the war in Iraq changed in the past year?
No, I still have a negative view 60%
Yes, I have a less favorable view 22%
No, I still have a positive view 14%
Yes, I have a more positive view 4%
Total Votes: 56,565


WASHINGTON (June 13) - A Republican congressman called for a deadline to pull U.S. troops from Iraq, while some other members of President Bush's party urged on Sunday that his administration come to grips with a persistent insurgency and revamp Iraq policy.


Rep. Walter Jones, a North Carolina conservative, said on ABC's "This Week" that he would offer legislation this week setting a timetable for the withdrawal from Iraq.

"I voted for the resolution to commit the troops, and I feel that we've done about as much as we can do," said Jones, who coined the phrase "freedom fries" to lash out at the French for opposing the Iraq invasion.

Other Republicans on television talk shows joined Democrats in criticizing the administration for playing down the insurgency, while overestimating the ability of Iraq's fledgling forces to fight without U.S. soldiers in the lead and failing to plan for the post-invasion occupation.

"The insurgency is alive and well. We underestimated the viability of the insurgency," Sen. Lindsey Graham, a South Carolina Republican, said on CBS' Face the Nation. He said the administration has "been slow to adjust when it comes to troop strength and supporting our troops."

Graham said the Army is contending with a serious shortfall in recruiting "because this war is going sour in terms of word of mouth from parents and grandparents." He said "if we don't adjust, public opinion is going to keep slipping away."

Jones, a member of the House of Representatives Armed Services Committee, said "primarily the neoconservatives" in the administration were to blame for flawed war planning.


By the Numbers


825
U.S. troops killed in Iraq as of June 13, 2004

1,701
Troops killed as of June 13, 2005

138
Troop deaths as of May 1, 2003, when President Bush delcared the end of major combat operations

12,000
Iraqi civilians killed by insurgents in the past 18 months



"The reason of going in for weapons of mass destruction, the ability of the Iraqis to make a nuclear weapon, that's all been proven that it was never there," he said.

Jones joins some of Congress' most liberal Democrats in demanding a deadline to withdraw troops from a conflict they said has been too costly in U.S. lives and money.

According to a new Gallup Poll, nearly six in 10 Americans say the United States should withdraw some or all of its troops from Iraq, up from 49 percent who held that view in February, USA Today reported in its Monday edition.

The Bush administration contends that setting a withdrawal date would fuel an insurgency that Vice President Dick Cheney recently said was in "the last throes."

Graham opposed setting a date. "If the insurgents drive us out ... we've lost a big battle in the war on terror," he said.

Jones said he was pushing the legislation because his "heart aches" at the nearly 1,700 U.S. soldiers killed and 12,000 seriously wounded in Iraq. He said Iraqis should defend themselves once their forces are trained.

Rep. Curt Weldon, a Pennsylvania Republican who just returned from Iraq, joined several Democrats saying the administration must be more candid and acknowledge that it could take about two years to train Iraqi forces to replace U.S. soldiers and allow a significant pullout.

"We can't come back to America and have our people being convinced that the Iraqi troops are prepared to take over, when they're not," he said on NBC's Meet the Press.

Weldon also said the administration must "come to grips" with a rising insurgency, boosted by fighters from Syria and Iran, "which for some reason our intelligence community does not want to acknowledge or deal with."

Weldon said he heard "a common theme" in Iraq that the largest number of foreign insurgents may be coming from Syria, but that "Iran overwhelmingly has the quality behind the insurgency."

Sen. Chuck Hagel, a Nebraska Republican, said on CNN's Late Edition, that "many of us warned this administration before we ever put a boot on the ground" that it would face a long-term conflict. "We didn't have plans for it. And we are now where we are," he said.


06-13-05 06:07 EDT



 
 yellowstone
 
posted on June 13, 2005 12:37:29 PM new
'REPUBLICANS BACKING AWAY FROM BUSH'

Why, did he fart??


 
 Libra63
 
posted on June 13, 2005 12:46:58 PM new
BELOW ARE THE RESULTS OF THE QUESTION ASKED ABOUT THE IRAQ WAR

Is this another of those AOL polls. Keep doing it bigpeepa and you show how really stupid you are.

You know, like Howard Dean, screaming gets you no where except it draws attention to you and I guess that is what you like attention.



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 hillbillymo
 
posted on June 13, 2005 12:56:51 PM new
As Bush's approval ratings dive in the polls, at some point, more members of Republican party will abandon Bush's policies. In an effort to prevent jeopardizing their own re-election.

 
 bigpeepa
 
posted on June 13, 2005 04:03:46 PM new
hillbillymo, you know whats up.

IN THE 2006 ELECTION WE CAN START GETTING BETTER LEADERS. YES...

 
 bigpeepa
 
posted on June 13, 2005 04:39:13 PM new
Hey Libra, I really do hope for (your sake) not mine Bush's ratings go higher. Otherwise you are riding a dead horse. Oh well I am glad I didn't vote for and support your failed President.

About me wanting attention wrong. I make posts about Bush to draw attention to how Bush is out of touch with the majority of the American people.



According to a new Gallup Poll, nearly six in 10 Americans say the United States should withdraw some or all of its troops from Iraq, up from 49 percent who held that view in February, USA Today reported in its Monday edition.



 
 logansdad
 
posted on June 13, 2005 07:28:20 PM new
Bigpeppa,

No matter what the results are, the Republicans will say there were not enough people polled or the people that were polled were not representative of the people in the US.

I think some of those 59 million people are finally realizing they were wrong when they cast their vote for W.

Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
----------------------------------
President George Bush: "Over time the truth will come out."

President George Bush: "Our people are going to find out the truth, and the truth will say that this intelligence was good intelligence. There's no doubt in my mind."

Bush was right. The truth did come out and the facts are he misled Congress and the American people about the reasons we should go to war in Iraq.
 
 bigpeepa
 
posted on June 13, 2005 08:19:00 PM new
logan or the wacko right wingers will say its not Bush's fault its Clinton's fault. Some even go back 60 years and say its F.D.R.'s fault for making all those PINKO LAWS that help the middle and working class American.

Its been fun to watch the wacko right wingers go from big time Bragging to Attack and Denial in just a few months.

 
 WashingtoneBayer
 
posted on June 14, 2005 05:41:39 AM new
Ok lets all promise not to vote for G.W. Bush in the next election.


Ron
 
 bigpeepa
 
posted on June 14, 2005 05:56:36 AM new
Washington, the next election is in 2006. That's when America can start getting better leaders. Leaders that represent the majority not the minority. YES...

 
 WashingtoneBayer
 
posted on June 14, 2005 06:45:21 AM new
Bigpeepa, whether you like it or not, the majority won the last election. The minority lost.

People want a strong leader and until another party comes foward with one, it will be the same.

I haven't seen to many places that will unseat an incumbent. Next years elections will probably change nothing.




Ron
 
 bigpeepa
 
posted on June 14, 2005 11:02:53 AM new
washington, you say, and like all republicans you say its the only word.



 
 WashingtoneBayer
 
posted on June 14, 2005 11:06:43 AM new
Are you assuming I am a republican? Believe it or not bigpeepa there are more than two parties in this country.


Ron
 
 colin
 
posted on June 14, 2005 05:14:29 PM new
Big pee,
Where was your poll taken? USC Berkley?
Amen,
Rev.

 
 
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