posted on June 15, 2005 02:56:08 PM
Lenihan takes the blame, but you know who told him to do it.
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No clear answer on who closed event to media
By DOUGLAS TURNER
News Washington Bureau Chief
6/14/2005
WASHINGTON - A major appearance by Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton in Buffalo was suddenly closed to the media Monday, a week after the senator lambasted reporters for lacking enough "spine" to stand up to the Bush administration.
After a day of conflicting statements, there was no clear answer to the question of who closed the Erie County Democratic Committee's fund-raising event in the Buffalo Convention Center to reporters and photographers.
Senior county Democratic officials told The Buffalo News early in the day that Clinton aides had told County Democratic Chairman Leonard R. Lenihan that the senator's people wanted the event closed to the media.
But later, Lenihan said that "it was my decision" to bar the media from the $1,200-a-plate event attended by about 200 supporters. Proceeds will go to the county committee.
Lenihan said the conflicting versions of why the media were turned away at the Convention Center doors was the result of a "misunderstanding."
Vic Baker, a news producer for WIVB-TV, said, "We got a call early Monday inviting us over, and when we got there, we were told to wait outside."
Rich Kellman, a reporter for WGRZ-TV, said Lenihan told him that it was his decision to bar reporters.
Convention Center Director Paul Murphy said that when television crews arrived to set up at 11:30 a.m., local Democrats told him to have them stay outside.
In a conference call, Clinton said:
"I did not make that decision. I am happy when I speak at Democratic events to have it open to the press. I guess that was a decision by the leadership of the Erie County Democratic Party. This is the first I've heard of it."
A week ago at a fund-raising event in Manhattan for her 2006 re-election campaign, Clinton combined highly charged criticisms of the Bush administration with an attack on the media.
"The press is missing in action, with all due respect," Clinton said.
"Where are the investigative reporters today? Why aren't they asking the hard questions? It's shocking when you see how easily they fold in the media today. They don't stand their ground.
"If they're criticized by the White House, they just fall apart. I mean, come on, toughen up, guys, it's only our Constitution and country at stake. Let's get some spine."
There was not that much media interest in covering the Convention Center event in Buffalo, said Clinton spokeswoman Jennifer Hanley. To which an editor at WGRZ-TV, Maria Sisti, responded: "Oh, baloney!"
posted on June 15, 2005 03:22:10 PM
lol ... gotta love these dems.
I saw this story before she had someone step in and take the blame themselves.
"The press is missing in action, with all due respect," Clinton said.
"Where are the investigative reporters today? Why aren't they asking the hard questions? It's shocking when you see how easily they fold in the media today. They don't stand their ground."
gotta laugh, bear. She complains and then they're not allowed in. typical liberal...they want it both ways.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on June 15, 2005 03:22:50 PM
Doesn't look to me like Hillary barred anybody bear. Maybe I'll go read it again just to make sure...hang on.....nope, I'd say your title's all in yer mind.
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posted on June 15, 2005 06:14:01 PM
Ya know all bush's campaign rallies, town meetings and fund raisers were only open to registered Republicans...people were being arrested for having Kerry stickers in their wallets.
Bush's town hall meetings have hand picked in advance "questioners" who are thoroughly vetted and the questions are rehearsed and staged. NO Democrats are allowed. They are NOT public meetings although they planned to look like it......hasn't fooled anybody but the righties yet
posted on June 15, 2005 07:08:56 PMProf, don't you think Hikkary & Billary would do such a thing?
Sure I do, in much the same way the President stages the few public talks he gives, with carefully filtered audiences who won't ask hard questions. It's just that, in this case, there's no evidence Hillary did it. Somebody, sure, but you said she did it.
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posted on June 15, 2005 08:28:26 PM
Well she has to take some of the blame if not all of it. Doesn't she have the say who stays and who goes. Or heaven forbid someone is higher up than her.
posted on June 15, 2005 09:35:12 PM
Libra - does that also mean that the president needs to take some if not all of the responsibility when people are escorted from his events because someone spotted them pull in with a Kerry bumper sticker?
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posted on June 15, 2005 09:52:05 PM
Get real fenix you really meant what you said? You are comparing apples to oranges.
The thread is about media barred from Hillary's speech. Now tell me how do you get a car into a building? And further more to clarify your statement cars are not allowed in an area where a political candidate speaks. The area is away from the main stream.
Yes she has control over that as any one speaking does. Evidently at the last minute she didn't want the media there. I have never seen the media barred from any of President Bush's speeches, or anyone else's speeches. Democrat or Republican. What was she afraid of? Or maybe Howard Dean was there and she was afraid he would say something stupid.
If you notice when a political candidate speaks outdoors he only speaks to the party they are from. The other party has their place but away from the main stream.
posted on June 15, 2005 10:23:47 PM
Libra - this has been in the news a couple times in the past but I'll explain it again...
Bush scheduled for town hall meeting.
People going to town hall meeting drive to the event.
They park their cars in the assigned parking lot.
They enter the indoor event using tickets aquired at local RNC office.
Two people with Kerry bumper sticker on the car they drove to event in are located in venue and escorted out the back door and away from view of reporters.
When asked, Scott McClellan states that the Secret Service member that escorted them out the back door are "imposters", they do not work for the Secret Service but must be local reps and that this will be looked into further.
"Imposters" seen at at least two other such meetings in different areas of the country again dressed just like Secret Service agents and leaving with other Secret Service agents.
White House now has "no comment".
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[ edited by fenix03 on Jun 15, 2005 10:26 PM ]
posted on June 16, 2005 05:14:18 AM
"Ya know all bush's campaign rallies, town meetings and fund raisers were only open to registered Republicans...people were being arrested for having Kerry stickers in their wallets."
crow ya mean they actually looked in their wallets?? I find that hard to believe LOL
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posted on June 16, 2005 05:47:56 AM
fenix! What the helz is wrong with you? Dont you know cars are not allowed anywhere near the main event??!! (and fenix's reply doesnt even skip a beat with it.) lol!! lol!!
Classic, its kinda like when a liberal goes to the ATM machine ya know? They think if they key in that pin number just one more time,,, some money will miraculously fall out the slot! But we all know there's no money there!!
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posted on June 16, 2005 06:01:33 AM
Yes classic , it was in the news....I don't know why they saw inside this guys wallet...asking for ID maybe? and they saw a Kerry sticker or card and told the guy to leave.
Classic , the bush people took extreme measures to keep out any dissenters ( and we're not talking extremist terrorist here)....very anti-American ideals .
posted on June 16, 2005 09:54:45 AM
"Classic, its kinda like when a liberal goes to the ATM machine ya know? They think if they key in that pin number just one more time,,, some money will miraculously fall out the slot! But we all know there's no money there!!"
DB-I hate to say this,but I've done that many times-I just figured the bank made a "mistake" in my account-LOL
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posted on June 16, 2005 11:11:20 AM
I have had personal tickets to see Pres. Bush's events. Yes only Republicans are let in. BTW I have never been to a Kerry event but I know that only democrats are invited to a Kerry event.
Why would Kerry or Bush want each others party at their events? Doesn't make sense.
Why if I am a Republican would I want to listen to Kerry flip flop.
When a person is invited to a presidential event they have to pre register. Backgound checks are made and then you find out if you are not a risk to attend that event. Evidently there isn't any democrats that were invited to a Kerry event or they would know the procedure.
posted on June 16, 2005 11:12:28 AM
Forgot one thing. If you hold a ticket for the event you are allowed to park in the lot, if you don't you can't park in there.
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posted on June 16, 2005 03:33:20 PM
Libra, are you feeling alright?
Libra, there are different types of "events".
Some are by invitation and some are open to the public.
Campaign speeches have been traditionally open to the public until bush started his "Republican " only scheme. This was so that no one would see any demonstrators or any one wearing the "wrong" shirt. People had to preregister, sign forms declaring their membership in the Repulican party and thrown out if they were pro Kerry.
Kerry campaign events were open to the public..ANY "public". No searches, nobody thrown out because they belonged to another party, or had a bush shirt on..
This is not just my opinion ...this happened and was noted many times by the press.
Why WOULDN"T a politician want to talk to people of other parties if he wants to spread the word....not hide it.
posted on June 16, 2005 03:37:21 PM
lol classic, so youre that annoying guy that holds up the atm line for 30 minutes punching in five different accounts and still walks away with no money!!???
posted on June 16, 2005 03:44:34 PMWhy would Kerry or Bush want each others party at their events? Doesn't make sense.
In Bush's case, maybe because he's supposed to be everybody's President.
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posted on June 17, 2005 04:27:06 AM
The majority of Americans now feel Bush is the President for a minority not the majority.
I see Bush is planing a major speech on the Iraq war because his ratings are so low. Will this speech help his ratings? I don't think so, Bush has already told us all enough LIES about HIS WAR.
posted on June 17, 2005 07:14:34 AM
Libra - the story has been reported nationally and commented on by the White House. Are you trying to say that it did not happen?
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posted on June 17, 2005 05:07:44 PM
Just met a woman today who was telling me how she and her mother wanted to see Laura Bush when she was in town. They're both Democrats but like Laura. When she went to get tickets she was asked if she was a bush supporter. She replied honestly no, she just liked Laura Bush.
She got the tickets but when she and her mother showed up at the event their names were checked against a list , her tickets were confiscated and they were told they had to leave.
