posted on July 22, 2005 02:38:51 PM
I watched 60 Minutes last week and they said most of the guns used by terrorists/insurgents, come from the U.S. Since I know nothing about guns, I didn't know what models they were talking about, but they were like machine guns. Does that worry or surprise anyone?
posted on July 22, 2005 03:16:40 PM
Don't think so. Likely the story is another attempt by the biased MSM trying to scare the unknowledgable public into another liberal sponsored "Assault Weapon" ban.
There is an abundance of AK47's (full auto) being sold by arms brokers throughout the mid east.
The AK 47 is the most popular weapon ever produced in Russia and other communist countries. Hundreds of thousands of them have been produced word wide.
Finding a full auto AK in the US and exporting it to a foreign country would be very difficult.
I work a number of local gun shows a month here in Texas & have never seen a full auto AK for sale by anyone other than by a class III licensed dealer. I have seen people that offered to buy one of these weapons under the table (without the proper transfer paperwork) from these dealers being arrested for their illegal attempts.
And I have never had any of the public offer to sell me a full auto weapon.
Again the full auto AK is too plentiful overseas to make it worthwhile to attempt to smuggle an illegally converted AK out of the US.
Current FBI statistics show that with the expiration of the assualt ban, there has not been a rise in gun deaths attributed to the once banned weapons.
So in my opinion, the story is as full of crap as Dianne Feinstein and all the other pro gun control crowd.
A word to the wise ain't necessary, it's the stupid ones that need the advice."
- Bill Cosby
posted on July 22, 2005 05:00:26 PMI watched 60 Minutes last week and they said most of the guns used by terrorists/insurgents, come from the U.S.
The gun owners here in America better watch out. If they own a gun that is used by the terrorists, the Patriot Act will assume they are terrorists or are supporting terrorist activities. They will then be arrest and charged as an enemey combatant and held without being charged.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
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President George Bush: "Over time the truth will come out."
President George Bush: "Our people are going to find out the truth, and the truth will say that this intelligence was good intelligence. There's no doubt in my mind."
Bush was right. The truth did come out and the facts are he misled Congress and the American people about the reasons we should go to war in Iraq.
posted on July 23, 2005 05:47:52 AMLet us know when it happens.
Another typical Republican where they believe the government can do no wrong. Why do you have to sit back and wait for it to happen? Why do you have to let the government take away our rights granted to us under the Constitution one by one before you realize you have no rights left.
I guess you would rather sit by and watch your rights be taken away, instead of doing something about it. What would it take for you to stand up and do something about it. What right would you have to loose before you said enough is enough?
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
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President George Bush: "Over time the truth will come out."
President George Bush: "Our people are going to find out the truth, and the truth will say that this intelligence was good intelligence. There's no doubt in my mind."
Bush was right. The truth did come out and the facts are he misled Congress and the American people about the reasons we should go to war in Iraq.
posted on July 23, 2005 10:25:50 AMSo why would they insitute something like you are suggesting?
They already DID. It is called THE PATRIOT ACT. I guess you don't really know what is in it either - like so many of our congressmen that signed it.
Perhaps you should read the Patriot Act and see what rights it is violating and the broadness of the act. Basically the term "terrorist" and terrorist activity" are loosely defined that it can be applied to anything.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
----------------------------------
President George Bush: "Over time the truth will come out."
President George Bush: "Our people are going to find out the truth, and the truth will say that this intelligence was good intelligence. There's no doubt in my mind."
Bush was right. The truth did come out and the facts are he misled Congress and the American people about the reasons we should go to war in Iraq.
posted on July 23, 2005 01:19:08 PMI ask again, or will you choose not to answer again?
I did answer, you just don't like my answer. I am not going to play into your little mind games. The patriot Act loosely defines terrorist and terrorist activity. My example does not mean the government will do it, but under the Patriot Act it is possible.
The government already has arrested people that were pointing laser beams at planes and charged them using the Patriot Act. Last time I checked, the terrorsits haven't used any type of laser beam as a weapon.
With this administration anything is possible.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
----------------------------------
President George Bush: "Over time the truth will come out."
President George Bush: "Our people are going to find out the truth, and the truth will say that this intelligence was good intelligence. There's no doubt in my mind."
Bush was right. The truth did come out and the facts are he misled Congress and the American people about the reasons we should go to war in Iraq.
[ edited by logansdad on Jul 23, 2005 01:20 PM ]
posted on July 23, 2005 03:54:15 PM
"The government already has arrested people that were pointing laser beams at planes and charged them using the Patriot Act. Last time I checked, the terrorsits haven't used any type of laser beam as a weapon.
With this administration anything is possible"
what you meant to say was:
"The government already has arrested assholes that were pointing laser beams at planes and charged them using the Patriot Act. Last time I checked, the terrorsits haven't used any type of laser beam as a weapon.
With this administration anything is possible"
now-you think these people shouldnt be arrested,or would you rather see some plane crash land??
posted on July 23, 2005 04:15:02 PMnow-you think these people shouldnt be arrested,or would you rather see some plane crash land??
That is not what I said FUPA.
I think these people are stupid and should be arrested. However how is it possible to consider these people terrorists? If you do then practically any crime could be potentially labeled terrorism by this administrtion.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
----------------------------------
President George Bush: "Over time the truth will come out."
President George Bush: "Our people are going to find out the truth, and the truth will say that this intelligence was good intelligence. There's no doubt in my mind."
Bush was right. The truth did come out and the facts are he misled Congress and the American people about the reasons we should go to war in Iraq.
posted on July 23, 2005 05:31:20 PM
"However how is it possible to consider these people terrorists?"
Well let's see. If you call somebody on the phone and demand money, you're an extortionist. If you point a laser at a plane to either target it or blind the pilot, I guess you're a
"terror"ist.
posted on July 23, 2005 07:04:59 PM
If you call somebody on the phone and demand money, you're an extortionist. If you point a laser at a plane to either target it or blind the pilot, I guess you're a "terror"ist.
And why cant the first person be called a terrorist? You are bringing terror into the life on the person you are calling.
Why can't a person who holds a gun to your head be called a terrorist?
Why can't a person who robs a bank be called a terrorist?
All the people in these examples can be called a terrorist since the are bring fear and endangering the life of another.
By the USA Act, terrorism is an "illegal" act that is intended to "intimidate or coerce the government or civil population" and is an "endangerment to human life".
This definition is so broad that it can be applied to most criminal activity.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
----------------------------------
President George Bush: "Over time the truth will come out."
President George Bush: "Our people are going to find out the truth, and the truth will say that this intelligence was good intelligence. There's no doubt in my mind."
Bush was right. The truth did come out and the facts are he misled Congress and the American people about the reasons we should go to war in Iraq.
