This champion of "family values" and ardent foe of GAY RIGHTS says:
"He admitted offering an internship in his office, sports memorabilia he's collected, help with college admissions, and trips to sports events and Washington, D.C., to a man he believed was an 18-year-old he met online at Gay.com. But he emphatically said he didn't view those offers as "enticements to teenagers" or an abuse of his public office.
"Any kid in this town who walked into my office and filled out an application and could come to work, dressed properly and clean, could be an intern in my office," the mayor said.
Later, asked about his private life, he said: "I wouldn't characterize me as 'gay,' but he didn't distance himself from the term "bisexual."
"The Gay.com thing has only been, I can't recall, but it hasn't been very long," West later said when told the newspaper had learned about his online aliases "Cobra82nd" and "RightBi-Guy."
"I can't tell you why I go there, to tell you the truth Е curiosity, confused, whatever, I don't know," the mayor said.
Rumors about inappropriate sexual behavior have shadowed West for years in state political circles, but no one has talked publicly until now."
"...After a hearing at which Sullivan was allowed to submit more information she said formed the basis of her knowledge of that charge, Matheson wrote a much longer explanation of the charge, which includes dates and details of West's contact with a person he believed to be an 18-year-old high school student whom he met on the Internet.
That person actually was a forensic computer expert hired by The Spokesman-Review to confirm the report of a young man who told the newspaper he had met someone he believed to be the mayor on a gay chat line, whom he later met in person and had consensual sex with.
Sullivan may assume there was no justification for West to invite someone he met on the chat line to apply for an internship, his attorneys say. But if he had been given a chance, West could have explained the e-mail he sent to the newspaper's computer expert and demonstrated he had helped "over a hundred young people obtain internships over the years," they said.
"He would have shown that he had 'personal' connections with some of the interns and none of the relationships were improper," they added. "He would have easily refuted Ms. Sullivan's inference of nefarious intent."
But Sullivan countered that the mayor didn't even attend the hearing on the recall petition: "If West wanted his side told, he should have showed up in court...."
How many covert heros has this slimeball murdered?
posted on August 20, 2005 08:11:46 AM
Let's see here now. hmmmm The dems kept saying that the republicans should let a public servants sex live be private - it's no ones business who they're sleeping with. What on does behind closed doors is their own business.
But this is somehow different to you tom ??? because now it's about a republican office holder?
And tom, you certainly can't use the excuse that this was going on in a taxpayer funded office buildings either......as so was the White House when clinton had his 'playmates' over for his own recreational fun.
Or maybe it's about him being gay or bi-sexual???? Because if it is I'm sure it won't bother any of the liberals here because that's a platform they support.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on August 20, 2005 08:20:25 AM
Sameshitdifferentday........."The right gets all worked up about blow jobs; the left about gross corruption, lies and body counts."
posted on August 20, 2005 09:48:10 AM
Linda_K and Ronnie, Looks to me like Tomwiii is just pointing out the LIE the republican party has spread. Yes once again the wacko right wing CON in the word Conservative is exposed about how they have higher morals.
Its to bad the right wing conservatives can't see or understand reality. YOU PEOPLE ARE NOT ANY BETTER THAN ANYBODY ELSE. YOU JUST LIE AND TRY TO TELL THE REST OF US YOU ARE. LOL.
[ edited by bigpeepa on Aug 20, 2005 09:51 AM ]
posted on August 20, 2005 01:29:42 PM
Hey Ronnie, How about the next time you hear of a Mayor where people from all parties want him gone let us all know. Don't keep it a secret. How about some newspaper articles showing republicans and conservatives wanting this hypocrite Mayor gone. With your knowledge and help we can all be better informed.
I am enjoying reading articles about lots of hypocrites,liars and flat out crooks who are getting caught up with all over America.
You must have heard about the gold coin scandal in Ohio.
posted on August 20, 2005 01:53:52 PM
Yep one more example of the hypocrites in the Republican party - the party that promotes family values out in the open so they can be elected but then they do the exact opposite behind close doors.
This is the second Republican to show how much of a bigot he really is.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on August 20, 2005 02:38:19 PM
Hey Ron, isn't it strange how worked up these lefties get when one Republican goes bad? As if he represents the entire Republican party.
posted on August 20, 2005 03:00:19 PMwhen one Republican goes bad?
You just wish it was ONE Republican that went bad
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on August 20, 2005 03:18:52 PM
I thought with all the GOP hatred spewed by you, especially in light of your illustrious election predictions, that you would of read all about this.
posted on August 20, 2005 04:50:34 PM
This little Gopiggy went to market
This little Gopiggy stayed home
This little Gopiggy had roast beef
This little Gopiggy had none
and this little Gopiggy went Wiii Wiii Wiii all the way home.
posted on August 20, 2005 05:59:44 PM
If you would just insert the word "Politician", instead of Democrat or Republican, we'd all agree. They are ALL hypocrites and crooked. Some are just more crookeder than others....on both sides of the fence.
posted on August 20, 2005 06:09:22 PM
Hey Ronnie, I see your using another right wing CON-servative G.O.P. key word "hatred". You guys need to go back to the G.O.P. key word school. Your old G.O.P. key words aren't working anymore. CON-servatives like you and Linda_K need to get current on your G.O.P. key words and sayings.
I do wish you could post some newspaper articles about CON-servatives want the Spokane Mayor out. I am sure several people would like to know what source you use to form your conclusions.
About my predictions. I said Kerry/Edwards would win Pennsylvania and they did so I guess I am batting 100% on my election predictions.
I don't remember ever saying anything about Kerry/Edwards winning the nation. If you can PROVE different I will admit my mistake.
Hey Ronnie I was in the middle of Pennsylvania a few days ago in republican country. It looks like republican Santorum is in big trouble there also. I heard Santorum's new nick name up there its Rick "Sanitarium". The people are saying he is using Pennsylvania's tax money to build a Sanitarium for himself and family. YES!!!
posted on August 20, 2005 06:28:28 PM
peepa you seem to be a savvy inernet user, if you can't find the information you seek, then that is not my place to assist in your defeciencies.
Yes I can see that you would like that but seeing as Santourum opponent has lost half his lead in just one year and with a year to go, I wouldn't be betting on him.
posted on August 20, 2005 06:30:10 PM
Also peepa, if you really are the savvy politcal analyst you claim to be, then you would know that the all the predictors are in place and the Republicans will remain in control.
posted on August 20, 2005 06:53:16 PM
Hey Ronnie you just said this about me. "Also peepa, if you really are the savvy politcal analyst you claim to be"
Hey Ronnie,show me where I claimed to be a "savvy politcal analyst" show me.
posted on August 20, 2005 09:07:57 PM
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APPROVAL RATING FOR PRESIDENT GEORGE W BUSH (Released 08/16/05)
SORTED ALPHBETICALLY BY STATE (scroll down for other sorts)
08/05 Net 08/05
Approval Link to Interactive Tracking Graphs
with Sub-Selects for Demographics ◄ New
# State '04 ECV Approve Disapprove
1 Alabama Bush 52% 45% 7% Alabama Bush Approval Tracked
2 Alaska Bush 46% 49% -3% Alaska Bush Approval Tracked
3 Arizona Bush 45% 52% -7% Arizona Bush Approval Tracked
4 Arkansas Bush 40% 56% -16% Arkansas Bush Approval Tracked
5 California Kerry 32% 62% -30% California Bush Approval Tracked
6 Colorado Bush 45% 53% -8% Colorado Bush Approval Tracked
7 Connecticut Kerry 33% 62% -29% Connecticut Bush Approval Tracked
8 Delaware Kerry 32% 64% -32% Delaware Bush Approval Tracked
9 Florida Bush 44% 53% -9% Florida Bush Approval Tracked
10 Georgia Bush 47% 51% -4% Georgia Bush Approval Tracked
11 Hawaii Kerry 43% 49% -6% Hawaii Bush Approval Tracked
12 Idaho Bush 59% 36% 23% Idaho Bush Approval Tracked
13 Illinois Kerry 38% 57% -19% Illinois Bush Approval Tracked
14 Indiana Bush 48% 49% -1% Indiana Bush Approval Tracked
15 Iowa Bush 42% 55% -13% Iowa Bush Approval Tracked
16 Kansas Bush 46% 50% -4% Kansas Bush Approval Tracked
17 Kentucky Bush 42% 53% -11% Kentucky Bush Approval Tracked
18 Louisiana Bush 48% 48% 0% Louisiana Bush Approval Tracked
19 Maine Kerry 40% 58% -18% Maine Bush Approval Tracked
20 Maryland Kerry 34% 62% -28% Maryland Bush Approval Tracked
21 Massachusetts Kerry 32% 64% -32% Massachusetts Bush Approval Tracked
22 Michigan Kerry 38% 58% -20% Michigan Bush Approval Tracked
23 Minnesota Kerry 39% 59% -20% Minnesota Bush Approval Tracked
24 Mississippi Bush 49% 47% 2% Mississippi Bush Approval Tracked
25 Missouri Bush 38% 58% -20% Missouri Bush Approval Tracked
26 Montana Bush 50% 45% 5% Montana Bush Approval Tracked
27 Nebraska Bush 55% 42% 13% Nebraska Bush Approval Tracked
28 Nevada Bush 40% 57% -17% Nevada Bush Approval Tracked
29 New Hampshire Kerry 42% 55% -13% New Hampshire Bush Approval Tracked
30 New Jersey Kerry 35% 61% -26% New Jersey Bush Approval Tracked
31 New Mexico Bush 41% 56% -15% New Mexico Bush Approval Tracked
32 New York Kerry 34% 62% -28% New York Bush Approval Tracked
33 North Carolina Bush 47% 47% 0% North Carolina Bush Approval Tracked
34 North Dakota Bush 51% 45% 6% North Dakota Bush Approval Tracked
35 Ohio Bush 37% 60% -23% Ohio Bush Approval Tracked
36 Oklahoma Bush 50% 46% 4% Oklahoma Bush Approval Tracked
37 Oregon Kerry 41% 56% -15% Oregon Bush Approval Tracked
38 Pennsylvania Kerry 40% 56% -16% Pennsylvania Bush Approval Tracked
39 Rhode Island Kerry 29% 68% -39% Rhode Island Bush Approval Tracked
40 South Carolina Bush 45% 51% -6% South Carolina Bush Approval Tracked
41 South Dakota Bush 45% 52% -7% South Dakota Bush Approval Tracked
42 Tennessee Bush 43% 52% -9% Tennessee Bush Approval Tracked
43 Texas Bush 54% 43% 11% Texas Bush Approval Tracked
44 Utah Bush 57% 38% 19% Utah Bush Approval Tracked
45 Vermont Kerry 33% 63% -30% Vermont Bush Approval Tracked
46 Virginia Bush 42% 52% -10% Virginia Bush Approval Tracked
47 Washington Kerry 40% 57% -17% Washington Bush Approval Tracked
48 West Virginia Bush 45% 51% -6% West Virginia Bush Approval Tracked
49 Wisconsin Kerry 41% 55% -14% Wisconsin Bush Approval Tracked
50 Wyoming Bush 58% 38% 20% Wyoming Bush Approval Tracked
Weighted Average 41% 55% -14%
('Weighted Average' means each state is weighted proportionally to its share of USA population. For example,
California, the most populated state, is given 71 times the weight of WY the least populated state, in a weighted avg
posted on August 20, 2005 09:14:31 PM
Yes he has one of the lowest approval ratings of any President.
But when he starts bringing some troops home next year before the elections, who do you think the people will cheer?
posted on August 21, 2005 04:35:36 AM
Army Planning for Four More Years in Iraq
By ROBERT BURNS, AP
APGen. Peter Schoomaker said the Army is capable of fighting the insurgency for many more years.
WASHINGTON (Aug. 21) - The Army is planning for the possibility of keeping the current number of soldiers in Iraq -- well over 100,000 -- for four more years, the Army's top general said Saturday.
In an Associated Press interview, Gen. Peter Schoomaker said the Army is prepared for the "worst case" in terms of the required level of troops in Iraq. He said the number could be adjusted lower if called for by slowing the force rotation or by shortening tours for soldiers.
Schoomaker said commanders in Iraq and others who are in the chain of command will decide how many troops will be needed next year and beyond. His responsibility is to provide them, trained and equipped.
About 138,000 U.S. troops, including about 25,000 Marines, are now in Iraq.
"We are now into '07-'09 in our planning," Schoomaker said, having completed work on the set of combat and support units that will be rotated into Iraq over the coming year for 12-month tours of duty.
Schoomaker's comments come amid indications from Bush administration officials and commanders in Iraq that the size of the U.S. force may be scaled back next year if certain conditions are achieved.
Among those conditions: an Iraqi constitution must be drafted in coming days; it must be approved in a national referendum; and elections must be held for a new government under that charter.
Schoomaker, who spoke aboard an Army jet on the trip back to Washington from Kansas City, Mo., made no predictions about the pace of political progress in Iraq. But he said he was confident the Army could provide the current number of forces to fight the insurgency for many more years. The 2007-09 rotation he is planning would go beyond President Bush's term in office, which ends in January 2009.
Schoomaker was in Kansas City for a dinner Friday hosted by the Military Order of the World Wars, a veterans' organization.
"We're staying 18 months to two years ahead of ourselves" in planning which active-duty and National Guard and Reserve units will be provided to meet the commanders' needs, Schoomaker said in the interview.
The main active-duty combat units that are scheduled to go to Iraq in the coming year are the 101st Airborne Division, based at Fort Campbell, Ky., and the 4th Infantry Division from Fort Hood, Texas. Both did one-year tours earlier in the war.
The Army has changed the way it arranges troop rotations.
Instead of sending a full complement of replacement forces each 12-month cycle, it is stretching out the rotation over two years.
The current rotation, for 2005-07, will overlap with the 2006-08 replacements. Beyond that, the Army is piecing together the plan for the 2007-09 switch, Schoomaker said.
With the recent deployments of National Guard brigades from Georgia and Pennsylvania, the National Guard has seven combat brigades in Iraq -- the most of the entire war -- plus thousands of support troops.
Along with the Army Reserve and Marine Reserve, they account for about 40 percent of the total U.S. forces in Iraq. Schoomaker said that will be scaled back next year to about 25 percent as newly expanded active-duty divisions such as the 101st Airborne enter the rotation.
August has been the deadliest month of the war for the National Guard and Reserve, with at least 42 fatalities thus far. Schoomaker disputed the suggestion by some that the Guard and Reserve units are not fully prepared for the hostile environment of Iraq.
"I'm very confident that there is no difference in the preparation" of active-duty soldiers and the reservists, who normally train one weekend a month and two weeks each summer, unless they are mobilized. Once called to active duty, they go through the same training as active-duty units.
In internal surveys, some in the reserve forces have indicated to Army leaders that they think they are spending too much time in pre-deployment training, not too little, Schoomaker said.
"Consistently, what we've been (hearing) is, `We're better than you think we are, and we could do this faster,'" he said. "I can promise you that we're not taking any risk in terms of what we're doing to prepare people."
posted on August 21, 2005 06:12:23 PMLet's see here now. hmmmm The dems kept saying that the republicans should let a public servants sex live be private - it's no ones business who they're sleeping with. What on does behind closed doors is their own business.
The intelligent one speaks again. Cant see the difference between being a hypocrite and doing what you want behind closed doors?
This so called defender of the champion of family value spoke out against gays while he was one himself or at least had homosexual tendencies. That makes him a hypocrite.
Linda do you need another example that might make the point a little more clearer.
It would be like you speaking out against Mexicans and then having employing one to work at your house.
It would be like you speaking out against incest but then you having sex with your son.
Do those examples help clarify the picture?
If he wanted to keep
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
----------------------------------
The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
[ edited by logansdad on Aug 21, 2005 06:26 PM ]
posted on August 21, 2005 06:25:55 PM
This little Gopiggy went to market
This little Gopiggy stayed home
This little Gopiggy had roast beef
This little Gopiggy had none
and this little Gopiggy went Wiii Wiii Wiii all the way home.
Good for you Lieinsthesky. Care you share any more nursery rhymes with us or do you prefer reading kids books like the president does?
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
