posted on September 17, 2005 08:08:17 PM
Republican vs. Democrat
A young woman was about to finish her first year of college. Like so many others her age she considered herself to be a very Liberal Democrat and was for distribution of all wealth.
She felt deeply ashamed that her father was a rather staunch Republican, which she expressed openly. One day she was challenging her father on his beliefs and his opposition to higher taxes on the rich and the addition of more government welfare programs.
Based on the lectures that she had participated in and the occasional chat with her professors, she felt that for years her father had obviously harbored an evil, even selfish desire to keep what he thought should be his. The self professed objectivity proclaimed by her professors had to be the truth, and she indicated so to her father.
He stopped her and asked her point blank, how she was doing in school. She answered rather haughtily that she had a 4.0 GPA, and let him know that it was tough to maintain. That she studied all the time, never had time to go out and party like other people she knew. She didn't even have time for a boyfriend and didn't really have many college friends because of spending all her time studying. That she was taking a more difficult curriculum.
Her father listened and then asked, "How is your good friend, Mary, doing?"
She replied, "Mary is barely getting by". She continued, "She barely has a
2.0 GPA", adding, "and all she takes are easy classes and she never studies."
"But Mary is so very popular on campus, college for her is a blast, she goes to all the parties all the time and very often doesn't even show up for classes because she is too hung over."
Her father then asked his daughter, "Why don't you go to the Dean's office and ask him to deduct 1.0 off your 4.0 GPA and give it to your friend who only has a 2.0." He continued, " That way you will both have a 3.0 GPA. Certainly that would be a fair and equal distribution of GPA."
The daughter, visibly shocked by her father's suggestion, angrily fired back, "That's not fair! I worked really hard for mine. I did without and Mary has done little or nothing, she played while I worked real hard!"
The father slowly smiled, winked and said, "Welcome to the Republican Party."
posted on September 18, 2005 05:33:04 AM
I love that analogy - I'm going to use that one - really cuts through all the crud and puts the difference in to simple terms.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Caroline
posted on September 18, 2005 10:36:26 AM
Oh well if profe wants to feel like a socialist then i say go ahead and let him. He probably smokes cast off second hand Cuban cigars, sent directly to his Mexico home from his compadre, Fidelisio Castro.
posted on September 18, 2005 11:46:39 AM
I think profe would turn republican in a heart beat if his fellow democrats decided he was too rich and decided he needed to redistribute his wealth.
People would have to admit that this example is the extreme left, only a couple of people posting here fit this category.
posted on September 18, 2005 11:50:53 AMTHAT sir, is a FACT.
A fact is provable Linda. Not something that's true just because you choose to believe it. By using the words "their ideals" you promulgate a stereotype of Democrats that is as absurd as the stereotype of conservatives all being Nazis. Now that you've backed off a bit and said that some are socialists, I can accept that; in the same way that I can accept that some conservatives are neo-fascists.
YellowstonePie, My home is in the United States. I buy my cubanos in Mexico and bring them across the border in flagrant disregard of US trade sanctions against Cuba. The official at the border who checks my truck is more than happy to look the other way in exchange for a few fresh Cohibas. I do this not because I like or admire Castro, but because they are the best cigars money can buy. As one of my favorite authors has said:
A woman is just a woman, but a good cigar is a smoke!
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posted on September 18, 2005 11:54:42 AM
Ron, I've often voted for Republicans, thanks for the word of support. Nobody, Republican or Democrat, will tell me what to do with my money. The folks on this board who want to pigeonhole everybody are becoming tedious.
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posted on September 18, 2005 01:09:52 PM
LOL....profe....I backed off??? I did NO such thing. I have no clue where you got that idea from....but it's WRONG. I posted my complete statement, EXACTLY as I had before.
The FACTS are profe, that the socialist and communist parties vote the democratic ticket. That, is a FACT.
And there are many here who support and have previously supported socialistic programs. Some here have even gone so far as to state they would and do support redistribution of income. Taxing the rich more so the poorer can pay noting or less. They've stated they'd like to see it more equal....as the rich are getting richer...and the poor are getting poorer.
And the dems have always had the reputation of being the tax and spend party. They're taking from those who have and giving it to those who don't. Imo, that is sliding into socialism. Whether you happen to agree or not.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on September 18, 2005 01:47:12 PMLOL....profe....I backed off??? I did NO such thing.FACT is...
Sure you did. In your original reply to this thread, you were perfectly willing to allow as how all Democrats were socialists. When I called you on it, you copied your original words, and added:
ALL dems don't. Many ARE socialists...
Thereby backing off. Like I said, I'll allow that some who vote Democratic are socialists or communists, that doesn't make all Democrats socialists or communists, anymore than the fact that some who vote republican are Klansmen or Militia members makes all Republicans neofascists. Looks to me like we're in accord here.
Call me whatever gives you wood, yellowpie..it makes no nevermind to me.
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posted on September 18, 2005 02:02:23 PM
LOL...what profe, are you now joining the dems who can twist what's said to mean something totally different now? Looks like it to me.
You are WRONG.....no matter how you TOOK what I said....I did not say what you're implying. [picture tongue sticking out of you here, since you wish to make such a big deal out of my statement and try to turn it into something it WASN'T]
I said: An excellent way to put their ideals into perspective.
speaking of dems there....NO WHERE is the word ALL used.
Now...why can't all dems apply that to themselves?
Now saying that IF ALL dems could be asked that same question about what they've worked hard for.....then they might see it differently.
It's YOU profe, who chooses to see it as I said ALL dems are socialists. I did NOT say that. It's you who is choosing to read words I didn't say.
I've never had a problem calling anyone here a socialist/progressive or telling them I believe they're anti-American, IF I see them that way. So....no, I didn't back down, because I didn't say that at all, YOU DID.
Speak for yourself....or don't read your 'mind-set' into what I've written....when I never said it.
I didn't back down from anything....I've never thought all dems are socialists...period. How stupid for you to imply/state that.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on September 18, 2005 02:16:10 PMI've never thought all dems are socialists
Good then. Like I said, we're in complete accord. Whether you capitulated or not seems to be a matter of opinion. We can leave it at that if you'd like.
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[ edited by profe51 on Sep 18, 2005 02:16 PM ]
posted on September 18, 2005 02:29:46 PMWhat I would have "liked" profe, was for you not to read into what my post said.
Perhaps if it were clearer to begin with, there'd have been less room for interpretation. Of course, that would give you less wiggle room too.
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posted on September 18, 2005 03:45:42 PM
So, how about it, tell us more about your smuggling activities and other laws that you break with such flagrant disregard because you obviously think that they don't apply to you. Or is it that you just break the smuggling laws because you disagree with US trade sanctions against Cuber.
posted on September 18, 2005 03:57:50 PMPerhaps if it were clearer to begin with, there'd have been less room for interpretation.
No one else appears to have had a problem with what I said, profe, just you.
And "perhaps" if you weren't sure what I had said and knew how to communicate on a more personable level, you could have ASKED rather than start throwing around FALSE accusations.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on September 18, 2005 05:28:28 PMAn excellent way to put their ideals into perspective. Now...why can't all dems apply that to themselves?
Linda, I've looked back at your original post, and examined my response to it. I see nothing in your original post that would lead me to the conclusion that you felt other than that all Democrats have socialist ideals, and as I have bolded for the benefit of my point, at least two reasons to conclude that you do (or did) feel that way. As I said, I stand corrected now, because you've made it clear that you don't think all Democrats are socialists.
YellowPie, you're doing your darndest to make an ass of yourself once again. You showed your true colors the last time we went around, first claiming that if you wanted to you could have my address in no time, and then reposting to "assure" me that you weren't coming after me. More likely you were reposting to cover your own butt. I'm not interested in another go 'round with you. You've proven what a lowlife you truly are. Your opinions hold no validity, and your taunts are hollow. Scat!
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posted on September 18, 2005 08:49:30 PM
The original statement is 100% accurate. You can bet that the prude Helen and flip flopper mingotree/cowfarm with have 101 excuses why everyone else should give up their money and they shouldn't.
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posted on September 19, 2005 05:50:48 AM
Hey pendejo, it's a good thing that the emblem for the Democratic party is the jackass because that's exactly what you are.
It was you that was made an ass of in our last go round, not me and you ended up with egg on your face. Anyone can clearly see how you made an ass out of yourself in that thread by claiming that some Spanish words meant one thing and then when i pointed out to you where you used them to describe yourself you then said that they meant something else. Yeah right, we believe you.....not! Oh and i don't need to cover my butt for anything that i post.
Here's that thread if you or anyone else wants to take another look at the ass that you really are.
So now, in this thread you are further making an ass out of yourself by admitting that you break laws, just because you can, like the law doesn't apply to you.
I expect your cohorts will come in now to defend you just like they tried to do in that other thread and actually i see that one is allready here. Where are the others?
posted on September 19, 2005 04:30:22 PMI thought you would enjoy that!!!!
I did. To be honest, I only actively began calling myself a Democrat when the Republican party decided that there wasn't any difference between cultural/social conservatism and fiscal conservatism. All of a sudden, you had to be both in order to be a conservative, or a Republican for that matter. I've always been a fiscal conservative, and a social liberal. I've always voted for people, not parties. I know liberal Republicans, and I know Conservative Dem's, and so does everybody else. Those people are the silent majority these days, on both sides of the spectrum as far as I'm concerned.
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Caroline 
I have no clue where you got that idea from....but it's WRONG. I posted my complete statement, EXACTLY as I had before.
