posted on January 4, 2006 06:23:32 PM new
If this turns out to be true, do you really think we should "stay the course" or should we throw up our hands and say "you're on your own"?
Information Suggests 3/25 Marines May Have Been Betrayed
Wed Jan 4, 9:26 AM ET
Reports surfacing about the death of 20 Brook Park Marine reservists indicate that the Marines may have been betrayed.
The truth can be found in a classified report containing a completed investigation of the fatal events last August, reported NewsChannel5's Adam Shapiro.
Shapiro spent two weeks conducting numerous conversations with families of the Marines who were killed, as well as ranking officers from the 3rd Battalion 25th Marines.
The families of those who died are being told that on Aug. 1, six Marine snipers from the 3/25 were killed, and it appears they were set up and ambushed.
Two days later, 14 Marines from the 3/25 were sent to arrest the insurgents who killed the snipers, but their vehicle was blown up, killing all of them.
It now appears that they also may have been set up.
Statements from the Marines indicate as much, and a father of one of the slain Marines says that's the story he's being told by Marines who were there.
Paul Schroeder will never forget that awful first week in August when his 23-year-old son, Lance Cpl. Augie Schroeder, died.
Paul Schroeder said his son's fellow 3/25 Marines told him something that the military never told him, how Augie was killed Aug. 3 while trying to capture the Iraqi insurgents who had killed the snipers.
"They were set up. Someone knew where they would be, how they would be, and they went after them," said Paul Schroeder.
The six Marine snipers were killed in a firefight just outside of Hadithah. The Marines said they were on an intelligence-gathering mission, but family of the fallen and Schroeder say insurgents may have infiltrated Iraqi security and betrayed the Marines.
"What we have heard from Marines is that the six snipers who were killed on Aug. 1 were set up," said Schroeder.
NewsChannel5 spoke with Maj. Shenandoah Sanchez, who investigated the events.
"All details pertaining to the incident are still classified," he said.
But Lt. Col. Mike Brown, also with the 3/25, said the investigation, "was about how the people responsible were ultimately found."
Brown declined to say who they were and if they were captured.
But Schroeder said it was the mission of his son and 13 other Marines to capture the insurgents who killed the snipers.
The amphibious assault vehicle carrying Augie Schroeder was blown up and all 14 Marines on board were killed.
Paul Schroeder said his son and the others were also betrayed by Iraqi forces who were supposed to be working with the Marines.
"The two incidents of Aug. 1 and Aug. 3 are tied together, all in an effort to get insurgents who were either part of the Iraqi security forces or who were told by Iraqi security forces where they had their opportunities," said Schroeder.
The Marines will not discuss any of this, but Brown told NewsChannel5, "The fact these men were compromised is a part of the investigation."
Schroeder said, "The Marines I have talked to, which are many, believe the story of what really goes on in Iraq needs to be told in its entirety."
The Marines at the 3/25 have requested that the investigation report be declassified and released.
This could take weeks or possible several months. When it happens, the families of the fallen Marines will be the first to learn what it says, and then the report will be released to the public.
Cheryl
"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." - Martin Luther King, Jr.
posted on January 4, 2006 07:14:24 PM new
In your opinion, cheryl, just WHO do YOU think may have 'compromised' their position? Who do YOU think betrayed these soldier?
posted on January 4, 2006 08:36:36 PM newshould we throw up our hands and say "you're on your own"?
Isn't that the liberal solution to everything?
The only reasone we arent fighting terrorists armed with IED's in the streets of the USA is because of out armed forces in Iraq.
"“More Iraqis think things are going well in Iraq than Americans do. I guess they don’t get the New York Times over there.”—Jay Leno".
[ edited by Bear1949 on Jan 4, 2006 08:37 PM ]
posted on January 4, 2006 09:00:54 PM new
Right again, bear. And I pray many will be able to see that truth come election time.
The liberal defeatists have, from the beginning of this war, some even from the beginning of the Afghanistan war have almost appeared to me to hope we lose the war....just to show this President wrong.
Unbelieveable to me....but that's pretty much the liberal party line now. Just listen to the garbage Pelosi's still spouting.
edited to add: don't listen to the 'garage' Pelosi's spouting. but rather all her progressive/socialist crap.
[ edited by Linda_K on Jan 4, 2006 09:03 PM ]
I'm asking for opinions here. I'm not asking you and Bear to make snide comments again. Thought I'd give it a try, but it appears on the RT it's the same old, same old.
But, before I give up on this thread and this board, I will answer your question. I think the insurgency has infiltrated the Iraqi security forces (among other places within the new government) and they are the ones who betrayed our Marines. And, if the screening process is lax enough that these people are getting in, perhaps they need to rethink how they're doing things.
"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." - Martin Luther King, Jr.
posted on January 5, 2006 01:27:21 PM new
Opinions on the article, Linda, not opinions on what Bear thinks of democrats. Neither of you provided an opinion on the article or what you think should be done about a betrayal. Not at all surprised.
Cheryl
"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." - Martin Luther King, Jr.
posted on January 5, 2006 03:29:48 PM new
We have to stay the course, no matter what.
To leave before the recognized Iraqi governement asks us to leave would be a grave mistake for the Iraqi people. Sans a timeline we have to stay the course.
Ron
"Better to be hated for who you are than loved for who you are not."
I agree that we have to stay. But, what should be done about the insurgents infiltrating the Iraqi security forces? Should they have a better look at how they check these people out? If they don't find a better way, it's sure to happen again. These Marines were stationed in Brookpark. That's about 10 minutes from where I live. I think the families of these Marines deserve an answer.
Cheryl
"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." - Martin Luther King, Jr.
but rather all her progressive/socialist crap.