posted on January 5, 2006 10:38:10 AM
Yes, I watched it and I couldn't believe how Letterman stomped the dog doo doo out of O'Riley. The audience went crazy every time Letterman brought the hammer down on O'Riley's head. I think O'Riley felt ambushed, things sure got heated quickly. I don't think he was prepared for such a public spanking!
posted on January 5, 2006 10:42:39 AM
LOL....the whole even can be viewed on Fox News....
Surprise to me how some can't see/didn't hear Dave continually answering..."I don't know". LOL
Which anyone watching the full interview will see David was talking about things and like most dems here....couldn't ANSWER the questions O'Reilly put to him....so just kept repeating "I dont
know about that".
Yea, real politically informed comedian. NOT.
They each do what they do best....Letterman does comedy....O'Reilly is a journalist.
I encourage all who didn't see the interview to go to Fox News and judge for yourself just how well Letterman was [wasn't] able to answer any questions put to him.
posted on January 5, 2006 10:49:26 AM
Letterman: Our first guest is the host of Cable Television's number one news program - The O'Reilly Factor - it can be seen five nights a week on Fox News. Ladies and gentlemen, here's Bill O'Reilly. Bill come on out. Welcome back.
O'Reilly: Thank you.
Letterman: Happy New Year. Welcome back to the show. Tell me and people what you did before the O'Reilly, Factor, Foxnews thing.
O'Reilly: I was running the deli downstairs with that guy they have.
Letterman: Is that a fact?
O'Reilly: So, you can build on that career he's making.
Letterman: Yea, but seriously.
O'Reilly: I did a show called Inside Edition. Then, before that, I was a correspondent for ABC News, Peter Jennings, and before that CBS News.
Letterman: So, you're a life-long news journalist?
O'Reilly: Yea.
Letterman: How were your holidays? Good?
[laughter]
O'Reilly: I had a nice winter solstice, yea.
[long pause and laughter]
Letterman: Okay.
O'Reilly: You can't say - you can't say Christmas.
Letterman: You can't say Christmas?
O'Reilly: No.
Letterman: Why is that?
O'Reilly: Because it is politically incorrect and we did a lot of reporting on this and, uh, that was the big thing we were doing leading up to that. While you were in St. Barts, we were leading up to the Christmas holidays by saying 'Hey, how come we can't say Christmas?'
Letterman: I wasn't aware that you couldn't say Christmas. When did this happen?
O'Reilly: Sears, Kmart started it, said no more Christmas. It's all happy holidays or winter soltstice. I actually got a card from a friend of mine, it said 'Have a Blessed Winter.' I live in New York. You know what you can do with your blessed winter. You know what I'm talking about? Are you with me, Dave?
Letterman: I wasn't aware that this had happened.
O'Reilly: You weren't aware of the big giant controversy over Christmas?
Letterman: Well, I ignore stuff like that, it doesn't really affect me. I go ahead and do what I wanna do and you know I say Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, Happy New Year, Happy Hannukah.
O'Reilly: Here's why it matters. You with me on this?
Letterman: Yea.
O'Reilly: Okay. Ridgewood Elementary School in Dodgeville, Wisconsin. The song - Silent Night. [singing] Silent Night, you know? Knocked out the words and told the little kids to sing 'cold in the night, no one in sight, winter winds whine and bite, how I wish I was happy and warm, safe with my family, out of the storm.' They replaced the words to Silent Night with that. Now, with all due respect, I even think the baby Jesus would say 'gimme a break.' You know? You want another one ?
Letterman: No, but let- I don't-
O'Reilly: Woah, Woah, Woah, when great tradition-
Letterman: But what does this prove? It proves that one community-
O'Reilly: It proves there are pinheads at the Ridgewell [sic] uh Elementary School in Wisconsin.
Letterman: Right.
O'Reilly: That's what it proves.
Letterman: Right.
O'Reilly: Here's another one, you want another one? Or are you bored with this?
Letterman: I'm kinda- think we should move on.
[talking over one another]
Letterman: I mean but isn't this the kind of thing uh uh once or twice every twenty years somebody gets outraged and says oh by god we gotta put diapers on horses isn't it just about, it's just so what, let it go, it'll take care of itself.
O'Reilly: No. There is a movement in this country by politcially correct people to erode traditions and the Christmas tradition is the most cherished in the country. Look. How absurd is it?
Letterman: But I don't -
[talking over one another]
Letterman: I don't feel threatened.
O'Reilly: It's not matter of you feel threatened.
Letterman: I don't this is an actual threat. I think this is something that happened here and it happened there and so people like you are trying to make us think that it's a threat.
O'Reilly: Wrong.
Letterman: Because nobody said happy holidays to me and then said Merry Christmas, oh I can't say Merry Christmas.
O'Reilly: Well, here's why it gets to be more than that, because it's in court. there are lawsuits. in plano texas, another grammer school, umm the kids were told not to bring in Christmas colors like napkins that are red and green. That's in court; that's being litigated. Now you can say 'Oh, that's just a little thing, it doesn't affect you,' but it isn't. The erosion of the culture and the protection of tradition is important in this country.
Letterman: Yea, but are we really describing an erosion here? It's two examples one in Wisconsin and one in texas.
O'Reilly: I got a million of them.
Letterman: Oh, you got a million of them? Okay. Fine.
O'Reilly: Umm, and they're funny ones. Memphis, Tennessee, Bible Belt, library. They have a little display where you can, say you are in a duck hunting club you can bring in a dead duck and put it there and advertise you duck hunting club. We kill ducks. Show up at 9 o'cloCk and we'll blow some ducks out of the air. Okay. There was a church that wanted to advertise a Christmas pageant so they brought in the manger scene and the library said you can the manger scene in Memphis Tennessee, but you can't have the baby Jesus, Joseph, or Mary or the wise men. We're not sure about the shephards. That was a big debate. Now, how stupid and crazy is this?
Letterman: I don't believe you.
O'Reilly: It's true.
Letterman: I don't believe you. I don't...I don't believe you.
O'Reilly: You think I'm making this up?
Letterman: I do.
O'Reilly: Then I could write for your show. [reaching for cup on Letterman's desk] This mine?
Letterman: Yes. let's talk about your firinds in the bush admin, things seem to be darker now.
O'Reilly: They don't like me.
Letterman: Then they mgith ave been a year before how do things look to you?
O'Reilly: It's pretty rough, but they're not my friends in the bush admin. they're not kicking the door down to be on my show, in fact you have an easier time getting pres bush to come on here than I have getting him to come on the factor. But I think that the Iraq thing has been full of unintended consequences and it's a vital thing for the country and it's brutal, it's absolutely brutal. We should all take it very seriously. This simplistic stuff about hating Bush or he lied and all this stuff, does the country no good at all. We've got to win this thing. You have to win it. And even though it's a screw-up, giant, massive, all right, right now, for everybody's protection, it's best for the world to have a democracy in that country functioning and friendly to the West, is it not?
Letterman: Yes, absolutely.
O'Reilly: Okay, so let's stop with the lying and the this and the that and the undermining and let's get him. That is putting us all in danger. So our philosophy is we call it as we see it. Sometimes you agree, sometimes you don't. Robust debate is good. But we believe that the United States, particularly the military, are doing a noble thing, a noble thing. The soldiers and Marines are noble. They're not terrorists. And when people call them that, like Cindy Sheehan called the insurgents 'freedom fighters,' we don't like that. It is a vitally important time in American history. And we should all take it very seriously. Be very careful with what we say.
Letterman: Well, and you should be very careful with what you say also.
[audience applause]
O'Reilly: Give me an example.
Letterman: How can you possibly take exception with the motivation and the position of someone like Cindy Sheehan?
O'Reilly: Because I think she's run by far-left elements in this country. I feel bad for the woman.
Letterman: Have you lost family members in armed conflict?
O'Reilly: No, I have not.
Letterman: Well, then you can hardly speak for her, can you?
[applause]
O'Reilly: I'm not speaking for her. Let me ask you this question.
Letterman: [referring back to O'Reilly's phony "War on Christmas"] Let's go back to your little red and green stories.
O'Reilly: This is important, this is important. Cindy Sheehan lost a son, a professional soldier in Iraq, correct? She has a right to grieve any way she wants, she has a right to say whatever she wants. When she says to the public that the insurgents and terrorists are 'freedom fighters' how do you think, David Letterman, that makes people who lost loved ones, by these people blowing the Hell out of them, how do you think they feel, waht about their feelings, sir?
Letterman: What about, why are we there in the first place? [applause] The President himself, less than a month ago said we are there because of a mistake made in intelligence. Well, whose intelligence? It was just somebody just get off a bus and handed it to him?
O'Reilly: No.
Letterman: No, it was the intelligence gathered by his administration.
O'Reilly: By the CIA.
Letterman: Yeah, so why are we there in the first place? I agree to you, with you that we have to support the troops. They are there, they are the best and the brightest of this country. [audience applause] There's no doubt about that. And I also agree that now we're in it it's going to take a long, long time. People who expect it's going to be solved and wrapped up in a couple of years, unrealistic, it's not going to happen. However, however, that does not eliminate the legitimate speculation and concern and questioning of Why the Hell are we there to begin with?
O'Reilly: If you want to question that, and then revamp an intelligence agency that's obviously flawed, the CIA, okay. But remember, MI-6 in Britain said the same thing. Putin's people in Russia said the same thing, and so did Mubarak's intelligence agency in Egypt.
Letterman: Well then that makes it all right?
O'Reilly: No it doesn't make it right.
Letterman: That intelligence agencies across the board makes it alright that we're there?
O'Reilly: It doesn't make it right.
Letterman: See, I'm very concerned about people like yourself who don't have nothing but endless sympathy for a woman like Cindy Sheehan. Honest to Christ.
[audience applause]
O'Reilly: No, I'm sorry.
Letterman: Honest to Christ.
O'Reilly: No way. [waits for applause to die down] No way you're going to get me, no way that a terrorist who blows up women and children.
Letterman: Do you have children?
O'Reilly: Yes I do. I have a son the same age as yours. No way a terrorist who blows up women and children is going to be called a freedom fighter on my program.
[mild audience applause]
Letterman: I'm not smart enough to debate you point to point on this, but I have the feeling, I have the feeling about 60 percent of what you say is crap. [audience laughter] But I don't know that for a fact.
[more audience applause]
Paul Shafer: Sixty percent.
Letterman: Sixty percent. I'm just spit-balling here.
O'Reilly: Listen, I respect your opinion. You should respect mine.
Letterman: Well, ah, I, okay. But I think you're-
O'Reilly: Our analysis is based on the best evidence we can get.
Letterman: Yeah, but I think there's something, this fair and balanced. I'm not sure that it's, I don't think that you represent an objective viewpoint.
O'Reilly: Well, you're going to have to give me an example if you're going to make those claims.
Letterman: Well I don't watch your show so that would be impossible.
O'Reilly: Then why would you come to that conclusion if you don't watch the program?
Letterman: Because of things that I've read, things that I know.
O'Reilly: Oh come on, you're going to take things that you've read. You know what say about you? Come on. Watch it for a couple, look, watch it for a half hour. You'll get addicted. You'll be a Factor fan, we'll send you a hat.
Letterman: You'll send me a hat. Well, send Cindy Sheehan a hat.
posted on January 5, 2006 11:12:31 AM
This was MY favorite part....when Letterman admitted:
LETTERMAN: I'm not smart enough to debate you point to point on this, but I have the feeling I have the feeling about.
O'REILLY: You (INAUDIBLE).
LETTERMAN: I have the feeling about 60 percent of what you say is crap, but I don't know that for a fact.
O'REILLY: Sixty?
LETTERMAN: Did I 60 percent 60 percent, that's just I'm just spit balling here now.
O'REILLY: Listen, I respect your opinion. You should respect mine.
LETTERMAN: Well, I I - yes, OK.
(APPLAUSE)
But I think you're.
O'REILLY: Our analysis is based on the best evidence we can get.
LETTERMAN: Yes, but I think there's something this fair and balanced, I'm not sure that it's I don't think that you represent an objective viewpoint.
O'REILLY: But you have to give me an example if you're going to make those statements.
LETTERMAN: Well, I don't watch your show, so that would be impossible.
(LAUGHTER)
O'REILLY: Then why would you come to that conclusion if you don't watch the program?
LETTERMAN: Because of things that I have read, things that I know.
O'REILLY: Oh, come on, you're going to take things that you've read? You know what they say about you? Come on.
(LAUGHTER)
Watch it for a couple ? look, watch it for a half an hour. You'll get addicted. You'll be a "Factor" fan. We'll send you a hat.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
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O'REILLY: All right, so you saw most of that 10 minute chat, but if you want to see the entire thing unedited, billoreilly.com has it right now.
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Like most democrats he forms his opinions/bias on 'what he's heard, what he's read'.....not from actually investigating that which he denounces.
He's right....he ISN'T smart enought to debate O'Reilly.
mingotree/crowfarm - posted on December 20, 2005 "Ya but linda, I'M the nasty atheist, scummy LIBERAL and YOU are the enlightened "christian"?? How quickly you lower yourself to my level.
posted on January 5, 2006 11:37:34 AM
I didnt see it, but I wish I did. Well theres always the reruns.
My favorite part is this:
Letterman: See, I'm very concerned about people like yourself who don't have nothing but endless sympathy for a woman like Cindy Sheehan. Honest to Christ.
What does that mean??? [somebody smack letterman for that.}
And then I think I would have laughed when Letterman said he should send cindy sheehan a hat LOL!! I can hear him saying it.
I dont think o'reilly took a beating so much. He held his own - at least it "reads" that way.
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btw, I thought he (Letterman) was known as a republican at one time? Perhaps that was an improper assumption on my part? wonder where I got that from anyway? :0
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[ edited by dblfugger9 on Jan 5, 2006 11:39 AM ]
I wouldn't bother with Linduh's biased O'Reilly Factor Spin Zone clip that makes you watch Bill flap his gums alot, pretending to be so valiant. So typical of Lindumb@ss.
For those who aren't afraid to hear O'Reillys support for our Nation...support for our continuing to practice our Constitutional 'rights' to practice our religion....who aren't afraid like the liberals in this thread appear to be, that YOU might read the WHOLE thing.
What are THEY afraid of?
Even Dave admitted himself:
LETTERMAN: I'm not smart enough to debate you point to point on this, but I have the feeling I have the feeling about[/i].
posted on January 5, 2006 04:45:37 PM
O'Reilly insists on hyping the so-called War on Christmas. What's really funny is that every time, on his show, he has given "proof" of this war, he has been embarrassed because his info is wrong.
I was surprised to see that he pulled out the garbage about the school heinously changing the words to "Silent Night" after the public spanking he got on that one...turned out that the play's writer's had deliberately used the tunes of well-known carols for the play's songs because it makes it easier for the kids to learn them. Had nothing to do withany "attack" on Christianity. Not only that, but the school also had the kids singing Christmas Carols after the play...
The man is an idiot.
I watch his show for the comedy factor because he's always spouting mis-information. In addition you can also watch him frequently have tantrums because he can't get away with the mis-information--people out on the Net record him and let non-watchers know about his BS. Poor widdle O'Reilly can't get away, as he tries to do, with saying "I never said that!" Because everyone can see that he obviously did.
Did you happen to see his show after New Years in which he tried to make out that Dick Clark shouldn't have done the New Year's Eve show because of his stroke?!? What a heart the guy has.
posted on January 5, 2006 05:17:20 PM
The TV reporter for my paper said that while his politics were closer to Letterman's than O'Riley's, he thought Letterman was an idiot especially after criticizing O'Riley and then admitting he had never watched his show.
posted on January 5, 2006 05:28:08 PM
I must have watched a different interview. I thought Bill did a hell of a job. I lost a little respect for Dave with his poor Cindy crap.
It's funny that the leftholes on this thread didn't say anything about Dave admitting he didn't know what was going on in current affairs.
Oh wait a minute. That's what the lefthole posters are doing on this thread, on this message board.
Yes I've conceived a new catchword. I'm hopeing it will be used on the O'Riley Factor.
Amen,
Reverend Colin http://www.reverendcolin.com
posted on January 5, 2006 05:43:24 PM
The OTHER thing is I wish someone will tell me what is so "controversial" about O'Riley?
I don't watch, but every time I surf and hit his show, he's going on about "controversial" subjects like the thread about the CA city voting to uphold US law. Yeah, real controversial.
posted on January 5, 2006 06:11:34 PM
The LOUDER they whine....the more we know O'Reilly is doing a GREAT job.
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desquirrel - Seriously....I think the 'controversy' come into play because we all know our laws about illegals...and how they should enter our Country.
But we have an immigration agency that either is overwhelmed or doesn't care anymore, and whom will not come pick up illegals they the cops find them. WON'T turn them in the the proper agency.
So...now some citizens are voting/insisting their police departments do something about this problem. Some police are arguing this isn't their job to do...it's INS...or whatever they're calling it now.
So...voters are voting to FORCE the police dept. to deal with them.
posted on January 5, 2006 06:19:06 PM
bear - Yes, while mingo calls him an UNPROVED sexual preditor....notice she doesn't mention that this woman was trying to scam millions and millions of dollars out of him. No, no crime there. THEN he files a suit, she files a suit and it's my bet the reason they settled out of court, with NONE of the facts being told is because of the time and money involved. Just like it is in most lawsuits when it's easier to pay up and be done with it.
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Colin - I must have watched a different interview. LOL I know, one sure gets that impression REAL quick. LOL
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dbl - But you gotta love their lame excuses for why the children can't be taught it the 'way it's always been'. They THINK no one will notice they're removing anything from the class traditions.
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Yes, mingo....he makes all the laughable statements and then ADMITS he NEVER watches the show.
Besides stating himself he CAN'T debate the issues....he's not SMART ENOUGH.
Bet that fries your hide....that Letterman himself admits his shortcomings in the political arena.
posted on January 5, 2006 06:24:10 PM
Linda, actually, what they did was a remake of a play from 1988, about a Christmas Tree. I am not sure if the play re-worded the songs or they did. But kids will sing anything even if they dont know what it means.
posted on January 5, 2006 07:20:36 PM
dblfugger is correct that it was a play about a Christmas tree.
In fact, the new song lyrics are part of a 1988 Christmas play called The Little Tree's Christmas Gift, in which a scraggly Christmas tree is informed it may not be sold and will instead become firewood, prompting it to croon the revised version of "Silent Night" while lamenting its situation.
