Linda_K
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posted on January 10, 2006 11:46:41 AM new
What a laugh....they're demanding that we do what they want? What's in THEIR best interests, rather than ours?
What a joke. Hope the President tells them to stuff it...and all the other diplomats who agree with Fox.
He most like won't but I can dream can't I? 
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/01/10/D8F1LRCO5.html
Mexico Demands U.S. Allow More Immigration
Jan 10 2:09 AM US/Eastern
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By MARK STEVENSON
Associated Press Writer
MEXICO CITY
Diplomats from Mexico and Central America on Monday demanded guest worker programs and the legalization of undocumented migrants in the United States, while criticizing a U.S. proposal for tougher border enforcement.
Meeting in Mexico's capital, the regional officials pledged to do more to fight migrant trafficking, but indirectly condemned a U.S. bill that would make illegal entry a felony and extend border walls.
"Migrants, regardless of their migratory status, should not be treated like criminals," they said.
The countries represented at the meeting _ including Mexico, Nicaragua, Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, Belize and Panama _ created a working group to design a regional policy to avoid migrant abuse and to follow the course of the legislation.
"There has to be an integrated reform that includes a temporary worker program, but also the regularization of those people who are already living in receptor countries," Mexican Foreign Relations Secretary Luis Ernesto Derbez said.
Derbez has called the measure _ which passed the U.S. House of Representatives last month but still must go before the Senate _ "stupid and underhanded," but was somewhat more restrained on Monday, saying "it's not the Mexican government's position to tell the U.S. Senate what to do."
The U.S. proposal has caused widespread resentment in Mexico, where some have accused President Vicente Fox's administration of not being assertive enough in opposing it. Fox has called the bill shameful.
Mexicans working in the United States are a huge source of revenue for Mexico, sending home more than $16 billion in remittances in 2004, Mexico's second largest source of foreign currency after oil exports according to the country's central bank.
Fox's spokesman, Ruben Aguilar, defended the administration's record on Monday, telling reporters that migration has declined in recent years, though official figures show it remains at historically high levels.
Aguilar also said migrants "don't emigrate because they lack work, but rather for a series of other reasons, cultural reasons or better living conditions."
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Assoc. Press
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kraftdinner
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posted on January 10, 2006 12:09:53 PM new
What about this plan - for every person that immigates to Mexico, the US will match it by allowing the same number of Mexicans into the country. 
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MAH645
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posted on January 10, 2006 12:27:41 PM new
What about this plan, Give all the Mexicans tickets for a free cruise and knock the bottom of the ship out on the way.
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kraftdinner
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posted on January 10, 2006 12:40:07 PM new
Right Mah. Murder is always a good plan. 
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on January 10, 2006 12:56:36 PM new
How about we DEMAND they start paying US wage levels there and provide a standard of living equal or better than they can receive here.
Ron
"Better to be hated for who you are than loved for who you are not."
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kraftdinner
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posted on January 10, 2006 01:06:07 PM new
What about getting your government to implement the immigration laws you already have?
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Linda_K
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posted on January 10, 2006 01:20:18 PM new
Imo, this administration has been doing just that....taken stronger measures, spending more money on it...but imo not nearly enough. Same thing as with the previous adminstration.
Being the diplomat that I am....[ ] I'd support MAH's idea.
We all know why the Mexican government wants to see more of this....it benefits THEIR economy.
Maybe we should encourage their migration to Canada...let the Canadians support them and enjoy the 'fruits' of their cheap labor.
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kraftdinner
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posted on January 10, 2006 01:36:41 PM new
OK Linda, what do you suggest besides killing them or sending them to Canada?
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Linda_K
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posted on January 10, 2006 02:49:58 PM new
KD - I've already stated my positions many times....the last time was in the Mexican's shoot at US border police thread. You can find them here.
[ edited by Linda_K on Jan 10, 2006 02:51 PM ]
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kraftdinner
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posted on January 10, 2006 02:59:47 PM new
Why did you bring the subject up if you didn't want to talk about it, Linda?
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maggiemuggins
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posted on January 10, 2006 03:06:18 PM new
[ edited by maggiemuggins on Feb 9, 2006 09:58 AM ]
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colin
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posted on January 10, 2006 03:09:46 PM new
I think an underground railroad is needed. Like the one that helped the slaves in the 1800's.
It could be dug by the drug smugglers (their good at it) and stretch from the Mexican boarder to Canada.
Works for me.
Amen,
Reverend Colin
http://www.reverendcolin.com
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kraftdinner
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posted on January 10, 2006 03:13:30 PM new
You said it, Maggie. Also, certain people that DEMAND to be treated fairly don't want to return the same treatment. No names, of course.
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maggiemuggins
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posted on January 10, 2006 03:13:41 PM new
[ edited by maggiemuggins on Feb 9, 2006 09:58 AM ]
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on January 10, 2006 03:19:17 PM new
You can't blame a people for not want to live in a sh!t hole with a joke for a government.
Mexico needs to clean themselves up. Who the hell would want to move to Canada?
Unless you like the government telling you what to do and when to do it all the time and with one hand in your pocket.
We need to make Mexico make some changes.
Ron
"Better to be hated for who you are than loved for who you are not."
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maggiemuggins
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posted on January 10, 2006 03:20:02 PM new
[ edited by maggiemuggins on Feb 9, 2006 09:59 AM ]
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maggiemuggins
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posted on January 10, 2006 03:21:06 PM new
[ edited by maggiemuggins on Feb 9, 2006 09:59 AM ]
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kraftdinner
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posted on January 10, 2006 03:21:07 PM new
It makes sense to me, Maggie.
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kraftdinner
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posted on January 10, 2006 03:24:41 PM new
LoL Maggie - "she who must not be mentioned".
"Unless you like the government telling you what to do and when to do it all the time and with one hand in your pocket."
Unlike the US, of course.
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on January 10, 2006 03:26:18 PM new
Absolutely kraftdinner, this government is in no way like the canadian and our taxes are way less.
Ron
"Better to be hated for who you are than loved for who you are not."
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Helenjw
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posted on January 10, 2006 03:31:09 PM new
"Why did you bring the subject up if you didn't want to talk about it, Linda?"
LOL, poor linda!
[ edited by Helenjw on Jan 10, 2006 03:32 PM ]
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kraftdinner
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posted on January 10, 2006 03:56:50 PM new
Well no kidding, Washingtonebayer. That's because you have more people in the US. More people = lower taxes.
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Bear1949
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posted on January 10, 2006 04:02:22 PM new
Kraft, the majorty of Americans moving to Mexico aren't looking for work. They are retiring there & already have an income.
Still think if the US miulitary moved their sniper schools to the border we wouldnt need to erect a wall. Any of the mojados that survived could be given jobs supplying ammo to the snipers.
"“More Iraqis think things are going well in Iraq than Americans do. I guess they don’t get the New York Times over there.”—Jay Leno".
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kraftdinner
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posted on January 10, 2006 04:06:15 PM new
P.S. Maggie, don't forget that swmnbm has migrated to another board and has insulted and slammed them all. I wonder how she would feel if a Mexican did that to 'her' USA?
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kiara
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posted on January 10, 2006 04:18:22 PM new
Absolutely kraftdinner, this government is in no way like the canadian and our taxes are way less.
Way less?
Canada is #20 on the list and the US is #21
Most Taxed
Total tax wedge > Single worker
Canada > 30.2%
United States > 30%
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/tax_tot_tax_wed_sin_wor
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on January 10, 2006 04:50:14 PM new
I would like to see something more current than 2001, I know I do not pay 30%.
Ron
"Better to be hated for who you are than loved for who you are not."
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colin
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posted on January 10, 2006 04:52:30 PM new
I found it very interesting.
Looks like we are better educated but the Canadian girls eat more pork.
I like that.
Amen,
Reverend Colin
http://www.reverendcolin.com
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kraftdinner
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posted on January 10, 2006 05:23:49 PM new
One thing would be health care. We pay higher taxes to cover what our insurance premiums don't. Maybe if you added what you pay in health insurance, it would be close.
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colin
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posted on January 10, 2006 06:36:00 PM new
I'd just as soon pay what i pay for my health care. Nine bucks a week. I love it.
Amen,
Reverend Colin
http://www.reverendcolin.com
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profe51
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posted on January 10, 2006 07:25:08 PM new
Nine bucks a week...you've finally started buying better beer??
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